I have serious concerns for next year (2023-24)

[AustonMarner]

i think the poster said if he agreed to termination as a player, the leafs could just sign him to be the music guy or whatever they want to so he will still get paid but just not towards the cap so he would still get his money.

This whole Reaves conversation is sad in so many ways lol people here just desperately looking for any player to blame blindly for what's occurred in the Leafs/Bruins series up until this point... lol

Is there some reason that the Leafs would be so desperate to want to clear 1.3 million on the cap next year at the cost of a guy that has essentially been one of the teams better players/linemates so far in the 24' playoffs???

Leafs are in tough to improve team this summer through FA regardless, even with raising cap due to Matthews/ Nylander/ McMann/ Benoit pay increases plus Liljegren/ Robertson/ Domi/ Bertuzzi/ all being either UFA or RFA requiring raises also...

So clearing 1.3 off the books means literally didly-squat (not to be confused with the Diddy squat lol) essentially for a unicorn player in Reaves would be a dumb move imho

If the Leafs have any hope in improving the team at all next year, it would require a player like Tavares/Marner/Nylander/Matthews not being on the roster... and there's only one guy on that list I would attempt to part ways with if I was Treliving

 

[notDatsyuk]

I have some concerns about next year, but more for the following one, and less for the one after that.

I'm confident they will make the the playoffs, barring some pretty bad luck or management.

I have no confidence that they will win even a round in the playoffs, but I think they could win one or two, and will cheer fanatically until they are out.

I have very little confidence in Tavares at 2C, in Keefe at all and particularly in him figuring out that Tavares/Nylander doesn't work. But willing to be happily surprised on all counts.

I am fully confident that some posters will continue to believe (and worse, pontificate endlessly) that the team is great, we should have won every year for the past five (if not for luck/goalies/refs/league/fans), that Dubas did everything perfectly, and that nobody on the team is overpaid or underpaid by so much as a penny.

Since someone resurrected this thread again, I'll post my original opinion.

Not that they were particularly off the wall predictions, but I think they are all still good.

I must say I was (happily) wrong about Reaves (in another post in the thread).

 

[RunItBackAgain]

Next year is more boned than this year and this year is really boned.

 

[Taylor Halls Teeth]

I don't like moves Treliving has made so far

I don't like MM is still on the team, he should have been traded

I don't like AM still doesn't have a contact (I really don't like how AM is so adverse to long term contracts)

I don't like the defense AT ALL

I'd say my biggest concern is this team is going to be too complacent and I think there is a real chance Toronto might actually miss the playoffs

I have never been this low on the team, at least when Toronto was tanking we could look forward to the future, what do we have to look forward to now? Toronto hasn't done ANYTHING with this core, why should I think this year will be any different?

There figures to be some massive changes if there isnt a big playoff. Also AM does have a contract.

 

[Orfieus]

There figures to be some massive changes if there isnt a big playoff. Also AM does have a contract.

This was posted I think a day or two after free agency, so when AM didn't have that extension

 

[Dragao6]

Ah
How much worse can it be then that last 7 years?
We don’t make playoffs avoiding leafs fans paying thousands to watch 1 round of Hackey??!!

 

[Orfieus]

Shocking how running with the same top heavy team seems to get the same results..year after year after year after year after year after year after year after f***ing year (that's 8yrs!)

Edit: I will admit the Domi signing was good

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Dude...you get mad props for your concerns.


See you and your concerns next year.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Shocking how running with the same top heavy team seems to get the same results..year after year after year after year after year after year after year after f***ing year (that's 8yrs!)

Edit: I will admit the Domi signing was good

Maybe it will work this time

 

[Orfieus]

Dude...you get mad props for your concerns.


See you and your concerns next year.

I used to buy NHLTV and literally watch every single game. Then I stopped paying and used other means to watch games. This year I only watched a handful of games start to finish.

I'm done, if Keefe or Marner are still on the team next year I'm not going to watch a single game

 

[Nineteen67]

I used to buy NHLTV and literally watch every single game. Then I stopped paying and used other means to watch games. This year I only watched a handful of games start to finish.

I'm done, if Keefe or Marner are still on the team next year I'm not going to watch a single game

I struggled watching Leafs’ games from February on, however I really enjoyed the last three games of the playoffs. If they get back to playing the Leafs brand I’ll look forward to next year, if they don’t then I probably miss most games.

 

[Tak7]

I struggled watching Leafs’ games from February on, however I really enjoyed the last three games of the playoffs. If they get back to playing the Leafs brand I’ll look forward to next year, if they don’t then I probably miss most games.

What is the Leafs brand of hockey?

 

[Nineteen67]

What is the Leafs brand of hockey?

The 2024 version of Conn Smyth’s definition.

 

[Trapper]

What is the Leafs brand of hockey?

So far? Not starting on time, only to scramble panic when you are in a deep hole, to come back and fall short with question marks around your team.

That’s what I’ve seen for the past 8 years anyway.

 

[AvroArrow]

I'll bet you right now the Leafs will finish as a top 3 team in the regular season, absolutely no chance they miss playoffs unless there are multiple catastrophic injuries. I'm talking season ending injuries to guys like Matthews, Marner, Tavares.

I'm dropping an early bet that Leafs win the presidents trophy, we've been an elite regular season team for like 5-6 years now, our division got much weaker.

This year will be different for a couple of reasons, for the first time we have a different GM with a different philosophy. We've never had a true 1LW before, we added Bertuzzi.

No one quote me LOL.

 

[Tak7]

So far? Not starting on time, only to scramble panic when you are in a deep hole, to come back and fall short with question marks around your team.

That’s what I’ve seen for the past 8 years anyway.

Yep.

Or just soul crushing loss after soul crushing loss. Either applies perfectly.

 

[CapspaceKiller]

Looking back at this... it was just same old same old. LOL.

Better than some of the teams of this era and worse than others.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

If you had concerns for last year then buckle up.

Because all those exact same concerns are coming back next year. It's looking more and more like they aren't changing a thing. The same management, coach, and core.

The same team, with the same problems, headed straight for the same results.

Only this time with an even cruddier supporting cast. Raises to Matthews and Nylander guarantees that. The team can't afford to bring back the players they have at their current salaries.

Let lone give anyone more.

Even though I know Treliving wants to. It's all he's done since getting hired. Padding everyone's bank accounts while take a step back in the results department.

Paying more for less is what you call throwing good money after bad.

 

[sittler rules!!!]

This truely is a joke of an organization. 58 years I have followed this team. I have never disliked a Leaf team like I dislike this one. If they keep Keefe after this I am out. If they keep Scamahan, If they keep Mitch the Messiah, I am out. And judging by what I am hearing, all will be back. It is a shite show if one comes back.

 

[centipede2233]

This truely is a joke of an organization. 58 years I have followed this team. I have never disliked a Leaf team like I dislike this one. If they keep Keefe after this I am out. If they keep Scamahan, If they keep Mitch the Messiah, I am out. And judging by what I am hearing, all will be back. It is a shite show if one comes back.

I feel your pain. This organization rewards failures. Zero accountability

 

[nsleaf]

Seems like some fans are threatening to not watch Leafs next season, . Hmmmmm.
TML couldn't care less.

 

[ACC1224]

Seems like some fans are threatening to not watch Leafs next season, . Hmmmmm.
TML couldn't care less.

Hollow threats.
A fan can’t give up on their team or they were never a fan to begin with. It’s unconditional love.

 

[Arzak]

Hollow threats.
A fan can’t give up on their team or they were never a fan to begin with. It’s unconditional love.

Yeah, I bet the other half of them never watched a game in the first place. Ratings un-touched.

 

[uncleben]

If you had concerns for last year then buckle up.

Because all those exact same concerns are coming back next year. It's looking more and more like they aren't changing a thing. The same management, coach, and core.

It hasn't even been a week
We literally have no idea what direction any of this is going to.

 

[ACC1224]

It hasn't even been a week
We literally have no idea what direction any of this is going to.

It's never to early to panic, beat the summer rush.