GDT: I Can't Believe You Are All Making Me Do This (NJ at EDM 7:30 CST NHLN)

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MadDevil

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I'm experiencing the same thing. I use NordVPN and when I try to watch Devils games it takes forever for the ESPN+ app to load. Usually it will let me watch part of the game, and then sometime at the end of the 1st/beginning of the 2nd my feed suddenly goes to black and when I try to pull it up again the game is listed as blacked out in my area.

I'm very close to just cancelling ESPN+ and pirating every stream like I used to back in the day, it's a terrible product with so many performance issues it's not even funny.
I finally did that about a week or so ago. Which sucks working nights because I often miss the games live and would usually watch the replay on the app. The stupid thing kept saying they were sending me an email to confirm my account, but sent nothing, so I tried it a few more times and then got locked out of my Disney/ESPN account because of it. I finally said f*** this and canceled the damn thing. I'm not going to keep paying for a service that is spotty at best.
 

Whaddagoal

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Saw first two periods. Didn't see anything that stood out. Thought Jake Allen played really well.

Was more unimpressed with the Oilers than anything the Devils did.

To be fair if you missed the 3rd, you missed this teams better play. That would skew the game view a bit. It just happened to be our better period.

We weren't good for half the game though that is for sure and yes Allen was great ALL game.
 

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I am now becoming more and more convinced that coaching has a bigger impact than I originally thought. The way this team has improved defensively as a whole unit is significant. They may still not be a top team and I still am unsure about the core’s ceiling but Sheldon has certainly had a positive impact.

The Haula, Noesen line is such a pleasant gift for us to finally have a third line that is effective and feels “real”.
 

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To be fair if you missed the 3rd, you missed this teams better play. That would skew the game view a bit. It just happened to be our better period.

We weren't good for half the game though that is for sure and yes Allen was great ALL game.
Edmonton actually played very well. They had legs were moving the puck crisply. the devils played really good in the sense that they kept much of edmonton's pressure to the outside, let very few secondary scoring chances and stayed out of the penalty box. a great road win for NJ
 

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I am now becoming more and more convinced that coaching has a bigger impact than I originally thought. The way this team has improved defensively as a whole unit is significant. They may still not be a top team and I still am unsure about the core’s ceiling but Sheldon has certainly had a positive impact.

The Haula, Noesen line is such a pleasant gift for us to finally have a third line that is effective and feels “real”.
You two are on a first name basis? Does he get a lot of Big Bang Theory jokes he gets annoyed with?
 

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yeah the defense really is night and day. even when we're getting scored on it doesn't necessarily feel inevitable like it has in the past.
I have a hard time with this. Allen clearly plays well and we're now saying the defense is playing very well.

I'm usually more of a "goalies are a product of the system" person. But, I can see the other side as well - that good goalie play helps the system look good and gives confidence to the team to play better. And that's what last night's game seemed to be like.

The highlights from this game (I only saw the third live) make it feel like at least a couple of the many chances the Oilers had would normally go in. Maybe one more for the Devils too? But, the Noesen and Bratt goals - while good chances - are often saves too.

To me, this could easily have been 3-1 or 3-2 Oilers headed into the third. Would we still be saying positive things about the defense at that point?

I still think the team is a work in progress with a lot of room for improvement. But, being able to say that while the team is still managing to put up a 93 - 98 point pace is great.
 
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MasterofGrond

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I have a hard time with this. Allen clearly plays well and we're now saying the defense is playing very well.

I'm usually more of a "goalies are a product of the system" person. But, I can see the other side as well - that good goalie play helps the system look good and gives confidence to the team to play better. And that's what last night's game seemed to be like.

The highlights from this game (I only saw the third live) make it feel like at least a couple of the many chances the Oilers had would normally go in. Maybe one more for the Devils too? But, the Noesen and Bratt goals - while good chances - are often saves too.

To me, this could easily have been 3-1 or 3-2 Oilers headed into the third. Would we still be saying positive things about the defense at that point?

I still think the team is a work in progress with a lot of room for improvement. But, being able to say that while the team is still managing to put up a 93 - 98 point pace is great.
Yeah, Allen played really well last night, saving something like 3 goals above expected. I don't think the team was particularly locked in.

But they're top 5 in xGA overall. So speaking generally, the devils have been one of the stingiest teams defensively this season, and I think that's been apparent. Results haven't always followed, but the Devils are playing pretty well, better than the results to date, I think.
 

jkrdevil

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I'm experiencing the same thing. I use NordVPN and when I try to watch Devils games it takes forever for the ESPN+ app to load. Usually it will let me watch part of the game, and then sometime at the end of the 1st/beginning of the 2nd my feed suddenly goes to black and when I try to pull it up again the game is listed as blacked out in my area.

I'm very close to just cancelling ESPN+ and pirating every stream like I used to back in the day, it's a terrible product with so many performance issues it's not even funny.
I have to use a VPN to correct my location because for some reason the ESPN+ app thinks I’m on Long Island when I live in Miami. I’ve had problems a few times with ESPn+ starting the game. I usually have to clear the cache and force restart the app and then it works. I think the issue is the ad inserts they put in. By the time the game starts it usually works fine.

Too late now and I should have shared this before the game last night, but if you have a Prime account and a VPN if you set it to Canada you can get Prime’s Monday Night game which last nights game was.
 

Devils731

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Yeah, Allen played really well last night, saving something like 3 goals above expected. I don't think the team was particularly locked in.

But they're top 5 in xGA overall. So speaking generally, the devils have been one of the stingiest teams defensively this season, and I think that's been apparent. Results haven't always followed, but the Devils are playing pretty well, better than the results to date, I think.
And the things that xGA tends to miss that the Devils were bad at last year, they are much less bad at this year.

They give opponents less space and time, less cross slot passes get through, less uncontested guys in front of the goalie, and more guys fighting to clear rebounds compared to last year and xGA in public models don’t really capture most of that.

The Devils look pretty professional defending this year while they looked amateur the last few.
 

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I'm experiencing the same thing. I use NordVPN and when I try to watch Devils games it takes forever for the ESPN+ app to load. Usually it will let me watch part of the game, and then sometime at the end of the 1st/beginning of the 2nd my feed suddenly goes to black and when I try to pull it up again the game is listed as blacked out in my area.

I'm very close to just cancelling ESPN+ and pirating every stream like I used to back in the day, it's a terrible product with so many performance issues it's not even funny.
I’m having similar issues. I use SurfShark and I would force stop ESPN, clear the cache, start up the VPN and it would work just fine all game. Now I get “unable to play video” every time. But if I leave the VPN on and watch Hulu, it gives me a “turn off your VPN” message. I might cancel it too.
 
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PizzaAndPucks

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The Devils played awful that game against the Lightning when they lost 8 to 5 a week or so ago. It was a huge overreaction to Allen being hung out to dry on numerous goals against. He's 3-1-1 through 5 games with 2 shutouts... He is not "washed up" , he is a solid backup goalie who can fill in when your starter goes down with injury or needs to sit a few games. We have a capable duo in goal that should be able to get us to the playoffs.
 

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The Devils played awful that game against the Lightning when they lost 8 to 5 a week or so ago. It was a huge overreaction to Allen being hung out to dry on numerous goals against. He's 3-1-1 through 5 games with 2 shutouts... He is not "washed up" , he is a solid backup goalie who can fill in when your starter goes down with injury or needs to sit a few games. We have a capable duo in goal that should be able to get us to the playoffs.

Allen gave up something like 4 goals above expected in that game lol he sucked.
 
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devilsfan950003

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Continue the strong play to close out the game and I will be satisfied

It was a rough start. But they didn’t break defensively and they are finishing their high danger chances.

Credit to Allen keeping them in it.

Credit to the special teams.

Credit to the team sticking with their D structure.
I'm impressed with their amount of hits. They are playing with some grit.
 

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I found it wonderful that I didn't feel the need to get on here to shout about how they were playing for a change. I just watched the game and felt any commentary was purely just that for a change. Sure there were breakdowns but I didn't feel like anything was systematic or straight up lunacy from a coaching standpoint. Everyone was working hard and the bad luck simply ran it's course and the skill won out in the end.
 

Xirik

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I think the defense played pretty good, they generally kept the Oilers to the outside and they moved the puck quickly away near the net quickly.

Yeah the times they crowded in front of Allen looked scary but most of him he had control of the puck so the Oiler's couldn't whack it in for a dirty goal.
 
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Tonight’s game wasn’t on ESPN+ because it was on NHL Network.

I was asking because recently my ESPN+/ VPN hasn’t been working so I’ve had to use the crappy MSG+/Gotham Sports feed. I wonder if they started blocking VPN users.

It'a been hit or miss for me lately. I was hoping to avoid the Gotham subscription. I've been using ExpressVPN. Might look into Nord. Or just bite the bullet and pay for the Gotham sub and ditch Fubo.

Oh boy, My3Sons has to do another GDT?

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