I would say Hutson has the lowest ceiling as he will never be a true top pairing dman unless his magic beans kick in and he gets significantly bigger.
Never thought I'd see a Habs player with a worse nick name than Jiri Sekac's "cakes"...but this "Rainmaker" might beat that out lol
To answer the question.
I'll take the player with the highest upside.
Slafkovsky.
you could use the same poll with the other top 5 players, and it really doesn;t change the needle (at this point).
Nope. There are years like this...
He can be an elite offensive dman like Hughes so no he doesnt have the lowest ceilling
If instead the poll was about which of these player had the highest upside (becoming the best versions of themselves), I think Slaf would win.
You used idiotic polls that were land slides for Nico for what exactly? People are stupid? These are all very far fetched polls that were closed because it was dumb.Great take here - it hasn't even been one year.
It's been 39 games.
If you think there are legitimate reasons to be dissatisfied with Lafrenière's growth after 3 years....surely you must think it's ridiculous to be dissatisfied with Slafkovsky's growth after 39 games.
Right?
Fair - I exaggerated for effect, but in my defense, I was trying to keep up with you.
Again, this is just a message board man...it's not real life, there's literally NOTHING I could write here that will equate to what you're suggesting here lol
But to address this part, you wrote a lot of stuff which is irrelevant to the point you originally made, which was to suggest that it was bad that a 1st overall pick (picked just over 1 year ago) was being compared a player picked 5th overall 2 months ago and a 67th overall player picked 2 years ago.
I went on to say that Devils fans were calling Nico Hishcer Brendan Morrison not too long ago, Rangers fans have ripped into Alexis Lafrenière and called him a bust, RNH was considered a pretty "meh" 1st overall up until last year.
Where would Hischier go in this draft based on his pre-draft hype?
Would it be fair to say he’d be comfortably behind Byfield and even several others?forums.hfboards.com
Hischier V Rasmussen
who will have a better career, Nico Hischier or Michael Rasmussen. @TwoPiece
Hischier vs Kotkaniemi
Who do you take going forward? Hischier 48162036 Kotkaniemi 5491726 Both playing in the NHL in their D+1 as an 18 year old - both great young players but who will be better?
Hischier vs Dermott
Currently listening to two friends of a friend arguing about this... hopefully I can show them this to get them to relax. I have no bias either way, being a fan of neither team. So who do you take (ignoring your individual team needs)?
see threads above...people say things lol and then things change and what those people said doesn't matter anymore.
Just like this thread topic won't matter in the future. It's just another one of thousands of threads here to waste time while we wait for the season to start.
It ain't that deep.
Logan Cooley, Simon Nemec and David Jiricek would win this poll by a landslide.
Whats fourth best? Does Cooley turn into a 90 pts ppg center? Does Jiricek turn into a norris D? Most likely no.
To illustrate how it doesn't mean anything.
Nothing wrong with saying Reinbacher.
Okay, let’s say Hutson’s the 3rd best…
I mean dude, we drafted four guys in that draft who’s probably have gone in the first round in a redraft. And a guy in the 2nd round who might be a top five. I’d say that’s something to be happy about.
theathletic.com
You know jack shit lol
I agree with much of what you are saying but don't quote Pronman, he is an epic moron and his opinion is worthless on a good day lol. Check out his recent article breaking down the Habs top prospects if you want damning evidence. This clown thinks Mysak and Farrell are better skaters than Heineman, Guhle, Caufield, Beck, Barron and Reinbacher etc. He even has Mysak rated well above Engstrom, Mailloux. Kapanen etc. as an over all better prospect. He does this every year and exposes his ineptitude like a dog proudly crapping on your neighbours green carpet because he is certain that it is grass.Okay, let’s say Hutson’s the 3rd best…
Who did you want us to draft at the time? Was it Cooley? Was it Wright?
For what it’s worth, Pronman at The Athletic would still have Slaf number one. I don’t think it’s the “Cooley by a mile” in this poll that you think it is. Slaf’s still got great upside.
Pronman: Who goes No. 1 in a 2022 NHL Draft redo?
Let's revisit the 2022 NHL Draft and break down the seasons Slafkovsky, Logan Cooley, Shane Wright and David Jiricek have had.
We will see. Rantanen exploded after being drafted and was over a point per game in the AHL in his D+1. Slaf had the worst rookie season of a first overall pretty much in history. I wouldn't write him off but I think we should be grateful if he even becomes a 60 point guy. Rantanen really is an exceptional playmaker and I don't see those skills in Slaf. He's been a shooter pretty much since he was a kid. That limits the number of points you can put up if your shot is your only weapon.
Rainmaker will be an extremely important, stabilizing element.I'm not comparing him to Weber as a player, per se, but he will have similar impact on the room and on the team.
My problem ? My choice was Wright and I can confidently say it was as wrong as Slaf, maybe even more. Completing a season or not doesn't change much development wise, age is not suspended because he doesn't play in the NHL. Im 30 years old, not 18 because I've never played pro hockey, lol. Jiricek, Nemec and Cooley have separated themselves from Slaf, Wright and Gauthier and Id say Gauthier has proved he could be every bit as good as Slaf and Wright.
I seriously doubt Hutson will be top 5, but even so, why couldn't we want more ? Why couldn't we aim for the actual best player for the 1OA ?Okay, let’s say Hutson’s the 3rd best…
Who did you want us to draft at the time? Was it Cooley? Was it Wright?
For what it’s worth, Pronman at The Athletic would still have Slaf number one. I don’t think it’s the “Cooley by a mile” in this poll that you think it is. Slaf’s still got great upside.
Pronman: Who goes No. 1 in a 2022 NHL Draft redo?
Let's revisit the 2022 NHL Draft and break down the seasons Slafkovsky, Logan Cooley, Shane Wright and David Jiricek have had.
Beside the point. People are going to disagree on this stuff. There’s no consensus on who should’ve been 1 st overall right now. It’s far too early to say.
