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WreckingCrew

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If you happen to follow too many folks from "Canes Twitter", you do see quite of bit of political shit. Most of that comes from them retweeting other people's political commentary, but most of Canes Twitter is a kindergarten of the uniformed and easily led when it comes to those types of discussions.

It mostly makes me laugh at the displayed amount of ignorance....on all sides of the political spectrum.
There literally needs to be a "none of the above" option and if it wins out both sides have to pick a different candidate? Of course we could start voting for 3rd party candidates if for nothing else than to get another perspective / voice in there (something I've been doing more of lately). Two-party system needs to die
 

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I'd even go one step further. It is a global weapons platform for information warfare- specifically designed for that purpose. I mean- right after they rolled it out, half the regimes in the middle east were swiftly overthrown, plunging it into chaos. Not to mention what the drug cartels and ISIS used it for in the early days.

Also for when the Canes sign Joakim Ryan to a 1-year 2-way contract.
 

LakeLivin

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If you like steak made from bugs, then yes: Bliss!

Nah . . .

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I'd even go one step further. It is a global weapons platform for information warfare- specifically designed for that purpose. I mean- right after they rolled it out, half the regimes in the middle east were swiftly overthrown, plunging it into chaos. Not to mention what the drug cartels and ISIS used it for in the early days.

And while I largely like what Musk has done with the place (ie, I can actually have my say on there without being immediately suspended) I am not super thrilled with the algorithm. My threads are filled not as much with the content of the accounts I follow- but mainly with the postings of influencers I despise. And, strangely- with rando accounts who seem to still be obsessed with Covid and screaming that everybody needs to still be masking everywhere.

I can only surmise they are farming deliberately negative interactions, baiting me to viciously denigrate the likes of Harry Sisson or the Crassenstein brothers or whomever.

After seeing your posts on here for a long time, I think it’s fair to say we generally see the world through different lenses. You see a lot of things being pre-planned or at least deliberate, while I see them being the outcome of bad process.

In this case, the difference doesn’t matter because both paths lead to the same conclusion. Was Twitter designed to be a weapon of information warfare? Maybe, maybe not… without question, it definitely is a weapon now. Are they deliberately farming your interactions to make you hate people with certain beliefs? Maybe, maybe not… but the negativity leading to hatred definitely is built into the architecture of the platform.

At this point, I see our society at a strange precipice where by all rights we should be disconnecting from the platform, and instead are actively deluding ourselves into thinking we can co-exist with it.

We don’t need to speculate that our perception is being manipulated for political/military/commercial/unknown effect, because that is a known fact and has been for some time now. Yet we keep coming back for another dose of the seratonin because we can’t make ourselves stop. Do we need to monitor Canes news as it’s breaking by the minute? No we do not, it will be on major news outlets within 10 minutes either way. Do we need to see a bunch of unverified speculation and propaganda every time a political event happens? No we do not, we’re seeing a live feed of events as they unfold. Does the platform offer healthy or even meaningful social engagement? No it does not, it simply leaves you craving validation from strangers.

So what’s drawing us back to keep making profiles and pretend we’re somehow smart enough to control the algorithm, when we know that it’s controlling us like a puppet on a string? Smells a lot like addiction, of a kind that is impacting the world on a broad social level. None of this adds up to anything good happening in the end, IMO.
 

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After seeing your posts on here for a long time, I think it’s fair to say we generally see the world through different lenses. You see a lot of things being pre-planned or at least deliberate, while I see them being the outcome of bad process.

In this case, the difference doesn’t matter because both paths lead to the same conclusion. Was Twitter designed to be a weapon of information warfare? Maybe, maybe not… without question, it definitely is a weapon now. Are they deliberately farming your interactions to make you hate people with certain beliefs? Maybe, maybe not… but the negativity leading to hatred definitely is built into the architecture of the platform.

At this point, I see our society at a strange precipice where by all rights we should be disconnecting from the platform, and instead are actively deluding ourselves into thinking we can co-exist with it.

We don’t need to speculate that our perception is being manipulated for political/military/commercial/unknown effect, because that is a known fact and has been for some time now. Yet we keep coming back for another dose of the seratonin because we can’t make ourselves stop. Do we need to monitor Canes news as it’s breaking by the minute? No we do not, it will be on major news outlets within 10 minutes either way. Do we need to see a bunch of unverified speculation and propaganda every time a political event happens? No we do not, we’re seeing a live feed of events as they unfold. Does the platform offer healthy or even meaningful social engagement? No it does not, it simply leaves you craving validation from strangers.

So what’s drawing us back to keep making profiles and pretend we’re somehow smart enough to control the algorithm, when we know that it’s controlling us like a puppet on a string? Smells a lot like addiction, of a kind that is impacting the world on a broad social level. None of this adds up to anything good happening in the end, IMO.
Co-signed.
 

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After seeing your posts on here for a long time, I think it’s fair to say we generally see the world through different lenses. You see a lot of things being pre-planned or at least deliberate, while I see them being the outcome of bad process.

In this case, the difference doesn’t matter because both paths lead to the same conclusion. Was Twitter designed to be a weapon of information warfare? Maybe, maybe not… without question, it definitely is a weapon now. Are they deliberately farming your interactions to make you hate people with certain beliefs? Maybe, maybe not… but the negativity leading to hatred definitely is built into the architecture of the platform.

At this point, I see our society at a strange precipice where by all rights we should be disconnecting from the platform, and instead are actively deluding ourselves into thinking we can co-exist with it.

We don’t need to speculate that our perception is being manipulated for political/military/commercial/unknown effect, because that is a known fact and has been for some time now. Yet we keep coming back for another dose of the seratonin because we can’t make ourselves stop. Do we need to monitor Canes news as it’s breaking by the minute? No we do not, it will be on major news outlets within 10 minutes either way. Do we need to see a bunch of unverified speculation and propaganda every time a political event happens? No we do not, we’re seeing a live feed of events as they unfold. Does the platform offer healthy or even meaningful social engagement? No it does not, it simply leaves you craving validation from strangers.

So what’s drawing us back to keep making profiles and pretend we’re somehow smart enough to control the algorithm, when we know that it’s controlling us like a puppet on a string? Smells a lot like addiction, of a kind that is impacting the world on a broad social level. None of this adds up to anything good happening in the end, IMO.

Yeah, social media sucks, but what else are you supposed to do when waiting for a haircut, oil change, or whatnot? 10-15 minutes is long enough to be an inconvenience, not long enough to do anything significant. Thus, we scroll to distract us from the mind numbing boredom of waiting for tasks to get done.
 
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Bub

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Yeah, social media sucks, but what else are you supposed to do when waiting for a haircut, oil change, or whatnot? 10-15 minutes is long enough to be an inconvenience, not long enough to do anything significant. Thus, we scroll to distract us from the mind numbing boredom of waiting for tasks to get done.

Well you could do the things we all did before there was social media...
 

Lempo

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Do we need to monitor Canes news as it’s breaking by the minute? No we do not, it will be on major news outlets within 10 minutes either way. Do we need to see a bunch of unverified speculation and propaganda every time a political event happens? No we do not, we’re seeing a live feed of events as they unfold.
I have come to the conclusion that all media is propaganda, meant and calculated to inject and feed animosity into the society.

Divide et impera, said already the Ancient Romans.
 

Navin R Slavin

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Yeah, social media sucks, but what else are you supposed to do when waiting for a haircut, oil change, or whatnot?
Just be with your own thoughts for five minutes?

I have come to the conclusion that all media is propaganda, meant and calculated to make money
The division and animosity are just the side effects.
 

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Yeah, social media sucks, but what else are you supposed to do when waiting for a haircut, oil change, or whatnot? 10-15 minutes is long enough to be an inconvenience, not long enough to do anything significant. Thus, we scroll to distract us from the mind numbing boredom of waiting for tasks to get done.

Actual answer: use your phone to read a good book
 

Boom Boom Apathy

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Yeah, social media sucks, but what else are you supposed to do when waiting for a haircut, oil change, or whatnot? 10-15 minutes is long enough to be an inconvenience, not long enough to do anything significant. Thus, we scroll to distract us from the mind numbing boredom of waiting for tasks to get done.
Read part of a book
Go for a short walk
Meditate
Watch a how-to video (technically YouTube is still social media but you can avoid politics and you pick what you want to see).
Close your eyes and rest
Listen to music.
Do a crossword puzzle or sudoku
Plan out you day or week
Practice learning a new language
Look up recipes you might want to try
Look up spots in NC you may want to visit
Strike up a conversation with the person next to you.

etc..
Hundreds of things other than scrolling twitter you can do if you so choose.
 

Porvari

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Yeah, social media sucks, but what else are you supposed to do when waiting for a haircut, oil change, or whatnot? 10-15 minutes is long enough to be an inconvenience, not long enough to do anything significant. Thus, we scroll to distract us from the mind numbing boredom of waiting for tasks to get done.
Tonight I came back from a run on the outskirts of the city and had to wait for a tram for 10+ minutes without my phone. So I just stood on the platform all that time and looked at the Tampere transit map. Can't say I'm a changed person, but in a weird way I felt it was time well spent.
 

Unsustainable

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Read part of a book
Go for a short walk
Meditate
Watch a how-to video (technically YouTube is still social media but you can avoid politics and you pick what you want to see).
Close your eyes and rest
Listen to music.
Do a crossword puzzle or sudoku
Plan out you day or week
Practice learning a new language
Look up recipes you might want to try
Look up spots in NC you may want to visit
Strike up a conversation with the person next to you.

etc..
Hundreds of things other than scrolling twitter you can do if you so choose.
I listen to music for 90% of my down time. Currently my soundtrack is mainly Linkin Park and Shinedown.

Shinedown is pretty much the best current rock band playing these days. Sympton of Being Human is such a great message.
 

Negan4Coach

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After seeing your posts on here for a long time, I think it’s fair to say we generally see the world through different lenses. You see a lot of things being pre-planned or at least deliberate, while I see them being the outcome of bad process.

In this case, the difference doesn’t matter because both paths lead to the same conclusion. Was Twitter designed to be a weapon of information warfare? Maybe, maybe not… without question, it definitely is a weapon now. Are they deliberately farming your interactions to make you hate people with certain beliefs? Maybe, maybe not… but the negativity leading to hatred definitely is built into the architecture of the platform.

At this point, I see our society at a strange precipice where by all rights we should be disconnecting from the platform, and instead are actively deluding ourselves into thinking we can co-exist with it.

We don’t need to speculate that our perception is being manipulated for political/military/commercial/unknown effect, because that is a known fact and has been for some time now. Yet we keep coming back for another dose of the seratonin because we can’t make ourselves stop. Do we need to monitor Canes news as it’s breaking by the minute? No we do not, it will be on major news outlets within 10 minutes either way. Do we need to see a bunch of unverified speculation and propaganda every time a political event happens? No we do not, we’re seeing a live feed of events as they unfold. Does the platform offer healthy or even meaningful social engagement? No it does not, it simply leaves you craving validation from strangers.

So what’s drawing us back to keep making profiles and pretend we’re somehow smart enough to control the algorithm, when we know that it’s controlling us like a puppet on a string? Smells a lot like addiction, of a kind that is impacting the world on a broad social level. None of this adds up to anything good happening in the end, IMO.
I see things through the lens of a half a lifetime of service to a government that on the regular has lied to its people, overthrown governments and waged wars under false pretenses- and being intimately involved in such.

Does that make me paranoid? Sure, I guess. Why wouldn't I think the worst scenario is true? But the truth is the overlap of the Intelligence Community and our media (See: Project Mockingbird) and later Silicon Valley is undisputed.

Is it a coincidence that Bob Woodward went from a secret society at Yale to 5 years in the Office of Naval Intelligence, only to just roll into the Washington Post and suddenly get the biggest story in US history thrown into his lap that takes down a President? Uh, okay maybe??

Is it coincidence that the social media companies are literally lousy with IC personnel and worked hand in glove with DoD to feed OSINT targeting information to them? And that the #1 platform for such came out right before an ill-advised US backed campaign to overthrow tons of governments in the middle east wasn't designed with the input and machinations of IC folks? I guess its possible??

But why would I not assume the worst, given everything that has gone on in this countries history- from the explosion of the USS Maine to the Gulf of Tonkin to 9/11?

But maybe it doesn't matter how we got to where we are- because we're here. What is coming is going to be next level once AI comes into its own and the kettle boils over.

Yeah, social media sucks, but what else are you supposed to do when waiting for a haircut, oil change, or whatnot? 10-15 minutes is long enough to be an inconvenience, not long enough to do anything significant. Thus, we scroll to distract us from the mind numbing boredom of waiting for tasks to get done.

In addition to insulting strangers on X- I managed to read 3 Pat Conroy books this summer! Damn that Charleston boy can write!
 
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