Rumor: Hurricanes could look to flip Rantanen if he doesn’t extend by the deadline

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

They traded a player that did not want to play in Carolina lol

What a failure

 

[BB88]

Looks like Rantanen was just a product of MacKinnon

All his adv stats are way way way better than with the Avs, based on them he’s dominated plenty which was used against him earlier with the Avs

Carolina just has looked pretty awfull the last couple of weeks, not exactly the best window to sell the team and future to Rantanen

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

They gambled that a Finnish guy would sign on a team with other Finnish guys and they didn't want to sign Necas anyway.

It's not that they didn't want to sign Necas longterm it's that there was a strained relationship for a long time with him.

There was a good amount of consistency issues and playing a game that fit into the Hurricanes system. Every RFA contract negotiation was difficult on both sides and Necas has made it known that he wanted to play C which wasn't going to happen based on his skill set and style of play.

The team and him came to an agreement on a short 2 year deal that walked him to free agency. He wasn't likely to re-sign once he had the rest of the league open to him so they wanted to move him while his value was at his highest.

Agree with others that it probably would have been best to wait until the offseason and re-evaluate but opportunities to get players of Rantanen's caliber doesn't almost ever come up so they went for it with a lot of risks attached and now they have to figure out the best path forward.

 

[TLEH]

It's not that they didn't want to sign Necas longterm it's that there was a strained relationship for a long time with him.

There was a good amount of consistency issues and playing a game that fit into the Hurricanes system. Every RFA contract negotiation was difficult on both sides and Necas has made it known that he wanted to play C which wasn't going to happen based on his skill set and style of play.

The team and him came to an agreement on a short 2 year deal that walked him to free agency. He wasn't likely to re-sign once he had the rest of the league open to him so they wanted to move him while his value was at his highest.

Agree with others that it probably would have been best to wait until the offseason and re-evaluate but opportunities to get players of Rantanen's caliber doesn't almost ever come up so they went for it with a lot of risks attached and now they have to figure out the best path forward.

Yeah I'm well versed on the backstory from reading here and online, I'm just saying with all that context they didn't want to sign him. Or maybe the better phrase was that he wasn't going to be back.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

I cant imagine the cost nor the Hurricanes even sending him there... but Rantanen on Jack Hughes' wing would sure be a spectacle

maybe next year

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Yeah I'm well versed on the backstory from reading here and online, I'm just saying with all that context they didn't want to sign him. Or maybe the better phrase was that he wasn't going to be back.

Correct. They knew Necas wasn't going to be a Hurricane once he was UFA eligible. He's a great player and they would happily sign him to a long term deal but not on his terms.

I just think the wording of 'Canes didn't want him' isn't really accurate of the situation. It was always more on Necas and that's fine. He's allow to want what he wants.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

If he does get traded again the servers for this board are going to f***ing melt.

Or my phone will.

Something is slow.

 

[plank]

To Dallas - Rantanen

To Carolina - Jason Robertson

 

[lettuceAA]

Canes are leaking this to try and put pressure on him to sign. If they go on a run and he does well he holds all the cards come FA. There's no way his agent would be advising him to sign a deal before the deadline.

 

[JKG33]

Canes are leaking this to try and put pressure on him to sign. If they go on a run and he does well he holds all the cards come FA. There's no way his agent would be advising him to sign a deal before the deadline.

What pressure is on him exactly? "Oh you don't want to be here long term so we'll trade you?"

Don't threaten him with a good time..

 

[Benstheman]

Rantanen for Lafrenière?

Does NYR have the cap space to resign him starting next season?

 

[CommaSynapse]

Rantanen for Lafrenière?

Does NYR have the cap space to resign him starting next season?

Rangers were moving forward with Laf's extension in place ($7.45 per year). If he was the return and they managed to move Kreider in the summer, then that would cover the cost.

It would be a tight fit, though, with no real room to upgrade elsewhere. The Rangers need LD far more than another winger.

Based on the roster makeover to date, it looks like Drury is coveting a certain type of player. I don't think Rantanen is it.

 

[Benstheman]

Rangers were moving forward with Laf's extension in place ($7.45 per year). If he was the return and they managed to move Kreider in the summer, then that would cover the cost.

It would be a tight fit, though, with no real room to upgrade elsewhere. The Rangers need LD far more than another winger.

Based on the roster makeover to date, it looks like Drury is coveting a certain type of player. I don't think Rantanen is it.

Make sense. Was just thinking NYR is generally a destination coveted for UFA, hence diminishing the risk.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

He wants to force his way to a few teams. He’s talking about signing an extension with the right team. This is a player who wants to go to UFA and field offers from maybe 3-5 teams, and take the highest offer that any of them put up (FLA, VGK, maybe NYR, TBL, DAL). He’s putting pressure on Carolina to trade him to one of them, so he can get an 8th year.

Carolina should’ve sifted this out before they made the trade. Not to say they can’t still flip him or keep him and get value the rest of the season, but clearly what they did isn’t working as intended.

 

[robbieboy3686]

There’s no possible way Carolina Gm risks guentzel 2.0… it’s a fireable offense unless a cup is won. I don’t think he wants to take that gamble.

 

[OysterForever]

There’s no possible way Carolina Gm risks guentzel 2.0… it’s a fireable offense unless a cup is won. I don’t think he wants to take that gamble.

Heyheyhey don't expect that much from Tulsky

 

[Negan4Coach]

It’s my opinion and that’s all it is, but I would highly doubt it would be anything location related. The Carolinas is one of the premier places weather wise to be in the entire country.

I guess it is solely up to him and he may have his heart set on a destination, but if all things equal, there is a hell of a lot of other places worse to be in the NHL.

OMG have you been here? It's the worst, IMO. Hot and humid as Hades in the summer, and just far north enough to have chilly, wet winters and occasional snow. Fall is great, spring too if you don't mind pine pollen as thick as mustard gas.

And the storms. My god the storms. Hurricanes. Nor'eastas. Floods. Mountains and coast are great tho.

 

[roryjones]

To Dallas - Rantanen

To Carolina - Jason Robertson

No thanks from Dallas. UFA does not have that kind of value even if it is Rantanen.

 

[BB88]

No thanks from Dallas. UFA does not have that kind of value even if it is Rantanen.

They’d be a better team with Rantanen over Robertson

Just get him extend before

 

[OilersFanatics505]

Dallas has the pieces and the cap space to get this done with ease. They would be scary with him.

 

[bleedgreen]

The thing I'm finding most amusing is that somehow all Carolina fans "knew" that Necas wasn't signing another contract with them - lol no you f***ing didn't - if it was public knowledge that he wanted out, he never would've garnered a player of Rantanen's calibre in return. Necas had a great start and never once did you hear a peep from fans that he wasn't returning

I'd thought it was a great value trade, but its going south in a hurry for the Hurricanes, and the revisionist history from fans makes it tough to empathize

Wut? After the incident with his Dad everyone thought the relationship was over, it was even on his or his finacee’s (or both) Instagram that he wasn’t coming back to Carolina. Then he apparently was traded on draft day but the deal got nixed because he wouldn’t sign long term with Cbus.

So we all knew it was a short term situation but hoped the two sides would figure it out long term after he signed….but he only signed for two years which walks him to ufa. The writing was on the wall from multiple directions that he wasn’t staying and it was obvious he was leaving if they didn’t change how they used him.

Everyone in the league knew this summer happened. Since the trade an article came out from a guy who no longer works for the Canes stating that both sides created Necas’ current contract to be trade friendly.

So which part are we revising from the truth?

Lebrun on SC last night also said ownership is upset Rantanen is not re-signing and that's a big factor in them engaging the market

Seems like even if the Canes front office would want to self-rental (the logical move, imo), ownership wants them to see what they can get

Tulsky said from day one he was prepared to keep Rants whether he signed him or not.

 

[Hockey4Lyfe]

OMG have you been here? It's the worst, IMO. Hot and humid as Hades in the summer, and just far north enough to have chilly, wet winters and occasional snow. Fall is great, spring too if you don't mind pine pollen as thick as mustard gas.

And the storms. My god the storms. Hurricanes. Nor'eastas. Floods. Mountains and coast are great tho.

You would be surprised how many people want to get to places that are as nice as possible for the longest amount as possible all while still experiencing all four seasons.

You guys have it a hell of a lot better than places like Florida/Texas.

 

[Winnie the Pooh]

Rantanen for Lafrenière?

Does NYR have the cap space to resign him starting next season?

The Rangers are paying a goalie 12m; theyre probably the last team to be offering 13m+ for a winger after signing Lafreniere (whos still underperforming)

And what center is Rantanen supposed to be excited to play with?

Rangers are a bad fit

 

[Kcb12345]

Dallas has the pieces and the cap space to get this done with ease. They would be scary with him.

Really depends on the type of return Carolina is looking for

Stars could offer futures/young guys I guess, but if I'm Carolina I'd want help now.

Perhaps Marchment++ but that would be a very unexpected move by Nill. Cant see him messing with the lockerroom/team chemistry like that even if it means getting a guy like Rantanen back

Plus, Carolina gets worse in the process. This is why I still have serious doubts that we see Rantanen traded despite the reports. There's no trade they can make that makes them better now.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Ya... this feels like Dallas or 'mystery team' which probably means Vegas.

I'm gonna assume Lindell would not be available due to Dallas wanting to be the Helsinki of the South so the 3 names that I think Dallas could part with (not saying all of them) would be Marchment, Bourque, Stankoven.

Canes were about to sign Marchment a few years back and then Dallas snaked him apparently. He's only signed for 1 more year though so I don't think there's a TON of value there but he does balance out the cap. So I would say him + one of Bourque or Stankoven and a pick or something.

This is assuming that Mikko comes with an extension or makes it known that he's open to re-signing in Dallas. Obviously the mutual interest has to be there for the deal to get done.