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[Chytilmania]

I find it ridiculous that anyone would prefer to lose to keep a draft pick instead of winning a game 7 to get to a Conference Final... because they think the draft pick will one day help us get to a Conference Final...

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Plus we know we aren't drafting a Center and we have a few prospects who are blocked.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

See Adam Fox. As elusive as he is he has been targeted and is laboring at times.


Out of all the people to pick to say something positive about you pick Ryan Strome!?

Fox's issue is he lacks explosive acceleration. He has heavy feet. He needs to work on this. This is and always has been his major weakness. And it's what scouts thought would hold him back at the pro level.

He is an elite player regardless. But imagine how much better he would be if he was a better skater.

I think there's a misconception that players can't improve their skating or skills. All it takes is acknowledgement of the weakness and then the work and time to improve.

Over the summer hit the gym and strengthen the legs, sled drags, mix up long distance runs, sprints, and hill repeaters. Get a power skating trainer. Guaranteed he would look completely different in September.

 

[Chytilmania]

Fox's issue is he lacks explosive acceleration. He has heavy feet. He needs to work on this. This is and always has been his major weakness. And it's what scouts thought would hold him back at the pro level.

He is an elite player regardless. But imagine how much better he would be if he was a better skater.

I think there's a misconception that players can't improve their skating or skills. All it takes is acknowledgement of the weakness and then the work and time to improve.

Over the summer hit the gym and strengthen the legs, sled drags, mix up long distance runs, sprints, and hill repeaters. Get a power skating trainer. Guaranteed he would look completely different in September.

I know it's hearsay but Fox doesn't like or believe in the gym. I'm sure he'll work on his skating but last summer after winning Norris he decided golf trips with friends were more important than working on his body/game. I hope this long season was a wake up call.

 

[Ola]

Carolina is a very good team. They played their best game of the series in game five. Gallant said the Rangers looked tired. Maybe the Rangers are tired. We will see what happens.

Fox is three season vet and has played 2,187 minutes this season (preseason not included). Slavin is one of the bigger work horses out there and only has 2,139 minutes. Ziba is up to 1,843, Aho only has 1,698.

Ultimately, these things are connected. I think our D and goalie are good enough to win a cup. That is fantastic, right? I think Ziba’s line is good enough to win a cup as a 1b line.

And honestly, as much as we are frustrated with our 2nd, they have played a perfectly OK series match-up wise vs Aho’s line. It’s not like we are losing the series because that line is getting destroyed.

But what we miss is a line that clearly gives us an advantage match-up wise. That is why our series become coin flips give or take a handful of percents — but it has also resulted in that we have leaned on our top guys too hard for it to be optimal.

What can we do to get an elite match-up line? It won’t be easy to take that next step.

 

[chosen]

See Adam Fox. As elusive as he is he has been targeted and is laboring at times.


Out of all the people to pick to say something positive about you pick Ryan Strome!?

Got it.

Then, we better move Fox before he is exposed as a total fraud.

To be clear, we are talking about the same Fox who leads all defensemen in scoring in the playoffs, right?

I find it ridiculous that anyone would prefer to lose to keep a draft pick instead of winning a game 7 to get to a Conference Final... because they think the draft pick will one day help us get to a Conference Final...

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It is amazingly bizarre thinking.

 

[chosen]

I know it's hearsay but Fox doesn't like or believe in the gym. I'm sure he'll work on his skating but last summer after winning Norris he decided golf trips with friends were more important than working on his body/game. I hope this long season was a wake up call.

You don't reach the professional playing level of Fox by avoiding the necessary hard work. That hearsay has to be pure bullshit.

 

[Chytilmania]

Got it.

Then, we better move Fox before he is exposed as a total fraud.

To be clear, we are talking about the same Fox who leads all defensemen in scoring in the playoffs, right?

What the hell are you talking about? lol

When did I say he was bad or a fraud? I said he's getting beat up and wearing down. I don't think it's the best approach having Fox, Lindgren and Jones. And if Jones is that good do we want him on the 3rd pair? Robertson seems like the best fit for that role. Use Jones in a package for a center.

You don't reach the professional playing level of Fox by avoiding the necessary hard work. That hearsay has to be pure bullshit.

I'm sure he does all of his on ice training, but last offseason he ditched the gym for at least the first half of the summer.

 

[chosen]

What the hell are you talking about? lol

When did I say he was bad or a fraud? I said he's getting beat up and wearing down. I don't think it's the best approach having Fox, Lindgren and Jones. And if Jones is that good do we want him on the 3rd pair? Robertson seems like the best fit for that role. Use Jones in a package for a center.


I'm sure he does all of his on ice training, but last offseason he ditched the gym for at least the first half of the summer.

Your contention is that Jones won't be able to withstand the physical rigors by pointing out Fox is being worn down.

If Jones were to be similarly worn down, I would be fine with it.

As to Fox's habits, leveling criticism at a kid who wins the Norris Trophy is beyond absurd.

 

[GlasgowNewYorkRanger]

Mika has to pick up a phenomenal amount of the slack, and he has been pretty damn good this series in having to do so. If we needed a reminder of the upgrade we need at 2C, then these playoffs - this series in particular - should serve as just that. If Mika's line is going to be involved in line match battles or drops off somewhat when trying to create as things get tight, Strome simply cannot be the player relied upon to take over the mantle for any kind of significant stretch.

The issue is glaring at this point. If Drury gives Strome that 2C moving forward it will be as appalling as the Buch trade. In some ways perhaps more so.

 

[artoor13]

I’m totally in the dark, where can we see the daily workout habits of players in the off-season?

 

[artoor13]

What the hell are you talking about? lol

When did I say he was bad or a fraud? I said he's getting beat up and wearing down. I don't think it's the best approach having Fox, Lindgren and Jones. And if Jones is that good do we want him on the 3rd pair? Robertson seems like the best fit for that role. Use Jones in a package for a center.


I'm sure he does all of his on ice training, but last offseason he ditched the gym for at least the first half of the summer.

I’m totally in the dark, where can we see the daily workout habits of players in the off-season?

 

[Machinehead]

I'm 31!

 

[Chytilmania]

Your contention is that Jones won't be able to withstand the physical rigors by pointing out Fox is being worn down.

If Jones were to be similarly worn down, I would be fine with it.

As to Fox's habits, leveling criticism at a kid who wins the Norris Trophy is beyond absurd.

Jones is not at the level of Fox.

We just made a big investment into Fox. I hope his Norris season wasn't the best of his career.

I’m totally in the dark, where can we see the daily workout habits of players in the off-season?

I did an internship with Prentiss.

 

[artoor13]

Jones is not at the level of Fox.

We just made a big investment into Fox. I hope his Norris season wasn't the best of his career.


I did an internship with Prentiss.

That’s cool. Must’ve had a good chance to meet some players. The Rangers work exclusively with this trainer or maybe some players choose their own guys?

I can see how some young guys might slack off on the training assuming they are just gifted and don’t need it. But I can’t imagine how the Rangers don’t require a regimen as part of the deal?