Rumor: Hudler + Vadim Shipachyov to Vancouver?
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My fear is they are going for it but are going to realize the blueline isn't good or deep enough and then they do something stupid because they are all in.
drax0s
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I'm sorry, a breakdown based on a one game sample on the final day in the preseason on the first game he played with them? Did you even read the article, or did you just look at the headline and say "Yup, confirmed my point!" and posted it?
Are you serious?
KeninsFan
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CpatainCanuck
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No thanks to Hudler, but yes to Shipachyov.
Anyway, acquiring a player like that for nothing seems like the perfect move for the Obsequious Aquilini who refuses to rebuild.
Anyway, acquiring a player like that for nothing seems like the perfect move for the Obsequious Aquilini who refuses to rebuild.
CP
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The Canucks have two forwards that don't need to clear waivers that are penciled into the line-up at this time, Virtanen and Gaunce. If the Canucks were to sign two older players they could send these two down to Utica. While some people may argue this is a sign the Canucks don't want to get younger, others may argue that this is a way to have more NHL quality depth available. The Canucks usually have a bunch of injuries before the pre-season is over. The intelligent strategy is to keep as much recall able depth on the farm as you can. The Canucks didn't have a poor season last year because there wasn't enough youth. It was because they didn't have enough depth to deal with injuries. Hyperbolic judgements about the management's agenda aren't really helpful. We all know the Canucks want to make the playoffs and develop youth. If you look at the line-up there is plenty of youth, even if there are more FA signed.
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I think he Canucks could use another top-9 forward, but they have so many bottom-9 guys that a move needs to be made to accommodate any new signings, and they have a similar problem on the blueline with too many bottom pairing character guys. Something has got to give, and a trade might be coming up (or another buy-out? Burrows?)
Bankerguy
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Yes, this is true. Burrows would probably have to go. If the Canucks could sign both of those players then their top 9 forwards would look quite solid:
1. H. Sedin
2. D. Sedin
3. Eriksson
4. Hudler
5. Horvat
6. Sutter
7. Shipachyov
8. Baertschi
9. Virtanen
+ Hansen
NFITO
hockeyinsanity*****
That's 10 players... add in Burrows, Granlund and Dorsett.. and you've got 13... ideally you add 1 more forward to go along with the 7 dman... but with Pedan likely used in both positions as an extra, you'd carry 8 dman.
And personally I'd rather see Virtanen in the A next season and earn being a call-up... that way if he earns it you've got a depth asset you can trade or even waive into the season.
I guess I just believe it's better for his development to develop at a lower level first and earn a NHL spot rather than be handed a spot at this stage ... better for both him and the team.
Bankerguy
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A year in the AHL would be good for his conditioning for sure. But if there isnt a good playmaking center there then i'm worried his offense would stagnate and he'd be moulded into a 3W Torres type banger out there. Hard to say...i guess his play in camp will really dictate where he starts the year
EbonyRaptor
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Shipachyov is a center on SKA. His line was the best in the KHL a couple seasons ago when he had Panarin and Dadanov on his wings and they won the KHL championship (Gagarin Cup). That threesome played together at Worlds in May and was the highest scoring line. Dadonov played about 40-50 games in the NHL about 5-6 years ago (Carolina I think) but didn't do well enough to stick.
Well, technically...
Gudbranson is younger than Hamhuis...
Eriksson is younger than Vrbata...
Hudler would be younger than Higgins...
Theyll have at least 8 players the age of 24 or under (Horvat, Virtanen, Hutton, Etem, Tryamkin, Baertschi, Granlund, Gudbranson)
And 9 players ages 25-30 (Edler, Tanev, Hansen, Sutter, Dorsett, Biega, Larsen, Markstrom, Sbisa)
Only 5 players are over 30, which accounts for 4.4% of the team...
But continue to flame away.
Exactly this.
For some people facts really don't matter they'd rather just complain.
IF we don't sign either of these guys they will complain we should have added one of them and blaim Benning.
RandV
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In this case the one thing the Canucks have going for them is a lack of center depth. If Shipachyov wants to start with a guaranteed job in the NHL, he can get one pretty easily with the Canucks.
As things are though we don't have the cap space for both him and Hudler.
ginner classic
Dammit Jim!
ginner classic
Dammit Jim!
tmac51
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Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Hudler - Horvat - Sutter (Swap taking faceoffs on their strong side)
Baertschi - Shipachyov - Hansen
Burrows - Granlund - Dorsett
Etem Rodin
Not too shabby, if only we could find a taker for Sbisa's contract
Kobe Armstrong
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... Pretty basic math skills here but 5+9+8=22. 5/22*100=22.72%In other words, more than 1/5 of your team is over 30, but less than 1/4.
Aquilini won't let a rebuild happen until Sedins retire because they feel they can be competitive and a playoff team. Why make playoffs and get bounced with 2 home games is beyond me when you can suck it up, slowly build your youth and go from there and try to make a second and third round in 3-5 years. Benning is just a puppet like you said unfortunately... From everything I hear on radio, etc. he always sounds like he wants to get draft picks and draft players but I really do think owners are screwing him over and making him get NHL ready now players simply for those few playoff revenue dates.
