Rumor: Hudler + Vadim Shipachyov to Vancouver?

[CP]

I think your crystal ball was dropped.
I just got a new one and it had Jim Benning winning Executive off the year when the Canucks are the only Canadian team to make the playoffs.
I guess they'll just have to play the games before judging, but the team looks much better to me.





We are all Jim Benning.

 

[Siludin]

Sutter with the twins is an abomination.

No it wasn't, they played great together.

 

[Skead]

I think your crystal ball was dropped.
I just got a new one and it had Jim Benning winning Executive off the year when the Canucks are the only Canadian team to make the playoffs.
I guess they'll just have to play the games before judging, but the team looks much better to me.


We are all Jim Benning.

Found the Canucks PR staff!

 

[Mad Brills*]

weird hudler hasn't signed yet

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I don't think there was ever any evidence that showed Shipachyov was close to a deal with Montreal at some point, I think the only thing we know forsure is that the habs were one of the first teams interested in him.

 

[ziploc]

I don't think there was ever any evidence that showed Shipachyov was close to a deal with Montreal at some point, I think the only thing we know forsure is that the habs were one of the first teams interested in him.

Wasn't the idea that he came as some kind of package deal with Radulov? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.

Russians are so mercurial.

 

[Disappointed EP40]

a lot of older guys and a lot of youth in Van... weird mix

I wish Benning was allowed to do a full rebuild cause I love their youth

Full rebuilds are stupid. Absolutely no logic to a "full rebuild" as much as it's fun, it makes zero sense. Keeping your valuable assets and adding to your talent level through every channel is how to build a team - not just through one. (Drafting)

 

[ziploc]

Full rebuilds are stupid. Absolutely no logic to a "full rebuild" as much as it's fun, it makes zero sense. Keeping your valuable assets and adding to your talent level through every channel is how to build a team - not just through one. (Drafting)

Agreed, you need vets and mid-aged players in order to show the way for the younger guys.

Just wish Benning wouldn't bleed out some many prospect and pick assets though.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Wasn't the idea that he came as some kind of package deal with Radulov? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.

Russians are so mercurial.

I don't think any Habs fan had a clue we were interested in Radulov until July 1st, so that seems unlikely but IDK

The other guy is saying we basically signed a deal but got blocked after the WC when there's no proof of that.

 

[stuffradio]

Anything about Canucks pops up, fans of other teams posts in here talking about how much they suck. It's pretty bad. Just look at that Markstrom thread.

 

[Disappointed EP40]

No it wasn't, they played great together.

Nah.

The Sedin's point production dropped and the power play was abysmal. Weird claim though.


EDIT: Here's a break down I don't feel like spelling out for you:

http://canucksarmy.com/2015/10/7/how-bad-was-sutter-with-the-sedins-in-excessively-in-depth-look

 

[Siludin]

Nah.

The Sedin's point production dropped and the power play was abysmal. Weird claim though.


EDIT: Here's a break down I don't feel like spelling out for you:

http://canucksarmy.com/2015/10/7/how-bad-was-sutter-with-the-sedins-in-excessively-in-depth-look

You posted an article that only discussed their play out of training camp, dated October 7th, when he played many regular season shifts with the Sedins and he line looked dangerous.

 

[HarvP19]

we will likely land one of ship or hudler. our forward roster is pretty much full at this point if you include anton rodin or gaunce.

 

[Bankerguy]

Sutter with the twins is an abomination.

Surprisingly it wasnt. I went to a few games. Got to see that line play 3 games..maybe 4 can't remember.
But i do remember that they really clicked. i don't know what the stats were but they passed the eyeball test. They seemed to generate good quality chances

Sutter is a good two-way player, good size and solid skating. He's lanky...that sort of works with the twins...they generate so much downlow that if you're kind of lanky i think you get your stick free a lot and can tap in a few goals.

 

[Bankerguy]

They a playoff team with 2 more vet scorers in the mix?

If chemistry is good then yes, i'd say so.
However, the year after when they add Boeser, Juolevi, Demko. Things get very interesting.


Sedin Sedin Sutter
Hudler Shipachyov Eriksson
Sven.B Horvat Virtanen
Rodin Gaunce Hansen

Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Sbisa Trymakin

Markstrom

 

[The Nightman]

Every team is in on Shipachyov

 

[landfill]

8 million over two years for hudler makes sense.

Gives time for Virtanian and others to develop.



Benning is trying this off season to fix the scoring, if we get Hudler that will be a step in the right direction.

 

[Regal]

Hudler I'd like for a couple years, I think he can insulate guys like Virtanen so they can learn about being a more complete NHL player before being thrust into a top 6 role he's not ready for.

I think they might be interested in Shipachyov so they could have both a) Better centre depth and b) The ability to move Sutter to the wing. When Sutter played on the Sedins wing, the line was better defensively and was putting up some points. However, Sutter is also injury prone so having Shipachyov would help take some minutes off Horvat so we don't use him solely for defensive work.

One season doesn't make a guy injury prone. He'd missed 3 games total the previous 5 seasons.

 

[LBCANUCK]

Benning will be fired next summer after his stop-gaps prove fruitless. Then the true rebuild can begin and they can bring in more youth by trading the Sedins, Eriksson, Edler, etc.

The stop gaps are just to appease the owners, it is quite widely known that they are not for a full rebuild so unless they change their tune its not gonna happen.

 

[VanJack]

So the Canucks are thinking of adding a 29 year old centre from Russia and a 32-year old under-sized winger, coming off a dismal season last year....starting to remind me of the old '67 Leafs....sign every old geezer under the sun...at least they've got the Johnny Bower equivalent in Miller..yikes!...what I can't understand is how it's the all-news channel CKWX 1130 which breaks all these stories....Plethora of reporters covering this team for TSN, Sportsnet and the Sun/Province, and they all seem to be asleep at the switch.

 

[gianni]

Full rebuilds are stupid. Absolutely no logic to a "full rebuild" as much as it's fun, it makes zero sense. Keeping your valuable assets and adding to your talent level through every channel is how to build a team - not just through one. (Drafting)

Exactly. Vancouver's easily a top-10 free agent destination; probably closer to top-6. And w/ the revised scouting criteria that the Canucks have implemented, they're able to draft gems like Brock Boeser & Thatcher Demko w/o a high pick. Also, people forget that the whole WCE line was acquired through trade.

 

[CP]

So the Canucks are thinking of adding a 29 year old centre from Russia and a 32-year old under-sized winger, coming off a dismal season last year....starting to remind me of the old '67 Leafs....sign every old geezer under the sun...at least they've got the Johnny Bower equivalent in Miller..yikes!...what I can't understand is how it's the all-news channel CKWX 1130 which breaks all these stories....Plethora of reporters covering this team for TSN, Sportsnet and the Sun/Province, and they all seem to be asleep at the switch.

Take all Canuck rumors with a large grain of salt. A lot of it is just to get people talking. Svoboda is likely just leaking rumors to re-heat the cold market for his clients. For some reason Vancouver gets picked for a disproportionate number of rumors. For instance when Edmonton was after Barrie, all of a sudden Vancouver was after him, too. There may be even less to most of these rumors than most people realize. Svoboda is just doing his job trying to get better offers for his clients. Typically Canuck moves are not rumored and surprise most of us, so everytime you see a Canuck rumor, you can say, "that looks like a load of ****, and you will be right most of time.

 

[Icebreakers]

So the Canucks are thinking of adding a 29 year old centre from Russia and a 32-year old under-sized winger, coming off a dismal season last year....starting to remind me of the old '67 Leafs....sign every old geezer under the sun...at least they've got the Johnny Bower equivalent in Miller..yikes!...what I can't understand is how it's the all-news channel CKWX 1130 which breaks all these stories....Plethora of reporters covering this team for TSN, Sportsnet and the Sun/Province, and they all seem to be asleep at the switch.

29 years old isnt old. And neither of he contracts will be longer than 2 years imo so its fine.

 

[VanJack]

29 years old isnt old. And neither of he contracts will be longer than 2 years imo so its fine.

It's fine I guess...as long as we're OK with Virtanen spending the year in Utica; a guy like Granlund on waivers; and reduced ice-time for guys like Horvat, Etem and Baertschi....don't have a clue about the Russian centre, but Hudler strikes me as a lateral replacement for Vrbata who couldn't be peddled at the trade deadline for a bag of pucks.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

So the Canucks are thinking of adding a 29 year old centre from Russia and a 32-year old under-sized winger, coming off a dismal season last year....starting to remind me of the old '67 Leafs....sign every old geezer under the sun...at least they've got the Johnny Bower equivalent in Miller..yikes!...what I can't understand is how it's the all-news channel CKWX 1130 which breaks all these stories....Plethora of reporters covering this team for TSN, Sportsnet and the Sun/Province, and they all seem to be asleep at the switch.

Who are all these older players we are signing? Ryan Miller is gone after this year too, you know that right? Benning has gotten this team significantly younger, you know that too right?