Value of: Huberdeau vs Gallagher

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Obvious answer.

Huberdeau has 52 points in 54 games
Gallagher has 36 points in 56 games

When you see posters post things like Gallagher easily its hard to take them seriously.

While I don't disagree your approach is terrible.

As for the trade, I already told said poster it's terrible. He/She is a terrible homer.

 

[bert]

While I don't disagree your approach is terrible.

As for the trade, I already told said poster it's terrible. He/She is a terrible homer.

Show me how many 50 point players are available then show me how many 75 point players are available. You can find guys that play both ways hard, finding close to ppg players are a huge rarity.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Show me how many 50 point players are available then show me how many 75 point players are available. You can find guys that play both ways hard, finding close to ppg players are a huge rarity.

So, you're comparing a 75 point forward vs a 30 goal score? That makes it closer for Gallagher that way.

 

[McRib]

Yeah give me the almost PPG Winger every time. Huberdeau AINEC

 

[Mackiaveli]

1) You think Lehkonen is a 4th liner

He is a bottom 6 player; if he keeps up this pace he will hit 35 points. I love the kid and I think he's talented but he can't finish, he struggles mightily to score, and he is the worst player on our 3rd line currently (can't believe I'm saying that seriously). In an ideal world, our 3rd line in 12 months is Byron/Danault/Shaw .. so yeah, he should be kept around to play on our 4th line OR traded.

2) Juulsen will never play a NHL game again. Habs doctors said they expect a full recovery. Just like they said with Weber

I am fairly confident the kid will be fine; but why would a team trade for him and take that risk? It doesn't make sense to pay a premium for an asset that has a career ending injury potentially. It would be like if a player shattered his hand; sure he is PROBABLY fine but you'd wait until he plays and shows he's fine before trading for him.

At best, Lehkonen will be a middle 6 winger. At best, Juulsen is a 2nd pairing young defenseman with upside. How the hell would those two pieces fetch a 70+ point player on a sweetheart contract, who just happens to also be French Canadian?

You are wrong on both counts but you are entitled to an opinion.

I think you completely ignored everything I said originally and just jumped to conclusions. Lehkonen is NOT a 4th liner but SHOULD be played on OUR 4th line. Juulsen's career isn't over but his value obviously isn't where it would be had he been healthy.

 

[Mackiaveli]

Yeah give me the almost PPG Winger every time. Huberdeau AINEC

It is close though. Gallagher drives possession, generally plays with weaker linemates in terms of offensive production, is incredibly responsible in both ends and can play all purpose hockey. He also plays on the goalies head a lot; meaning he has a TON of high danger scoring opportunities.

Hooby-dooby-doo plays with one of the game's most dominant two-way centers in Barkov; its not really a fair comparison. I definitely think Huberdeau is amazing and worth a lot, but as a Habs fan I would honestly take Gallagher over Huberdeau for ONE SEASON or ONE GAME every time. I just think Brendan's intangibles are more valuable; but to say that Gallagher is BETTER than Huberdeau is a joke.

They're different players. Huberdeau is going to get more points but he won't score like Gallagher will, ever.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

No, it's not bad. Talk to me when/if Huberdeau is traded. I remember someone saying my Juulsen and two 2nd's were bad for Muzzin and the Leafs trumped it slightly. I was not significantly behind.

If you can get better than Lehkonen and Juulsen, all the power to you. I believe Lehkonen and Juulsen address two of the needs you would have and the reason why you would trade Huberdeau in the 1st place.

1) Acquiring younger NHL talent on cheap RFA control. Saves you $2-$3M in cap space to go after Panarin/Bob
2) You acquire a top 4RD in Juulsen which appears to be a need.

I think it fits. I don't don't care if you don't like it.

1) We save cap space because we downgrade massively from a #1 LW to a 3rd line winger. Lehkonen will probably get a $3 to 3.5 million cap hit on his next deal, very similar to a player like Vatrano on the Panthers who's also a middle 6 winger on most nights.
You know Frankie Vatrano right? That guy that has 18 of his 19 goals coming 5 on 5, the ones you value so much with Gallagher. Also has 80 hits, 46 blocked shots, 24 takeaways and 14 giveaways to go along with 30 total points, 6 behind BG. Sounds alot like Vatrano is close to chasing down Gallagher type value soon then with those numbers?

2) Juulsen isn't a top 4 D right now, you can say it all you want. I get you have Weber and Petry blocking him but he has less than 50 games experience and you're acting like he's a big upgrade over Pysyk or Weegar who are both #4/5's for us. We need a legit top 4 D now, not in 2 years time.

I rest my case, g'day!

 

[CupInSIX]

Gallagher was supposed to physically break down a year into his contract, after that 2 years into his contract, and then 3 years into his contract. Well here we are, 4 years into his contract...might as well push the bar to 3-4 years now and re-assess later. It's easier that way instead of having this conversation every year.

I'll take Gallagher right now and in 3-4 years I might change my opinion...Huberdeau is a dime a dozen, Gallagher is a rare breed you don't see in the NHL anymore. I can't even think of 5 players who play a similar style to him as effectively as Gally does...they just don't make em like that anymore.

Because they break.

 

[jellybeans]

Huberleau is probably a better player but Gallagher is probably the better choice for the Habs its just what he brings to us.

 

[CountKong]

I would take Huberdeau as I feel his game is more sustainable than Gallagher and I fear hand/shot issues down the road for Gally.

I would not do that trade for either player.

 

[ole ole]

Wonder why they left out the PP points or didn't want to include it.

Huberdeau: 6 PPG and 22 PP pts
Gallagher: 4 PPG and 6 PP pts

But remember the Habs PP is rated as the 29th best while the Panthers sit at the 2nd best PP in the league.Makes a big difference.

 

[koyvoo]

Gallagher is a consistent 30 goal threat, but he adds so much more than that to a team.

 

[ole ole]

I'll take things I never said for $1,000, Forrest.

The question is, who would you rather have? I would rather have Huberdeau by a landslide. I never said there is a landslide of difference. For my team, a guy like Huberdeau is a much bigger need than a guy like Gallagher.

No the question was who do you VALUE more not who would you rather have. So you said value wise Hub by a landslide.

 

[Gardner McKay]

No the question was who do you VALUE more not who would you rather have. So you said value wise Hub by a landslide.

Need some clarification here,

Who would you rather have?

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Huberdeau, 25 year old, LW, playmaker, 4 more years left @ $5.9 million

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Gallagher, 26 years old, grinding 2 way scorer, 2 more years left @ $ 3.75 million

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In the regular season, I'd rather have Huberdeau 7-8/10 but in the playoffs it would even out for me a lot more.
When taking into account, their age, contract and style of play, who would you want/value more during regular season and then in the playoffs? Feel Gallagher is more suited for the grind of the playoffs but just curious how others feel of their genuine value to each other?



****Also, just for poops n giggles, how close is Lehkonen + Juulsen + 2019 3rd for Huberdeau?*** (not my idea)

 

[ole ole]

I guess it could be easy to mistake as one part says value the other have.

 

[Kotkaniemi15]

LOL

What’s funny? He stated facts that you can’t handle because they don’t fit your agenda. It’s pathetic how everyone loves to hate on Habs players.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

But remember the Habs PP is rated as the 29th best while the Panthers sit at the 2nd best PP in the league.Makes a big difference.

The reason why our PP is 2nd is due in large part to Huberdeau though.

 

[Legend123]

Even as a habs fan there's no way I can say Gally. Its Hubydoobydoo by a wide margin.