OT: Hrricanes Lounge XLVII: The return to obeying Rhules

[hangman005]

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Doesn't really take a constitutional law expert to interpret one of the most straightforward sentences in the Constitution.

Trump is full of shit on this one, and he's gonna lose -- but I'm sure he knows he's gonna lose. And this is the thing that people continually get wrong about Trump. The outrageous thing he says he wants -- well, if he can get it, great, but it's always always always the starting point of the negotiation, and it's always provocative so it's easier for him to get what he actually wants.

China, Russia: you want a world where everyone takes what they want? Fine, we'll take Panama and Greenland.

I don't know "Shall not be infringed" causes them enough issues.

 

[CanesUltimate11]

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Doesn't really take a constitutional law expert to interpret one of the most straightforward sentences in the Constitution.

Trump is full of shit on this one, and he's gonna lose -- but I'm sure he knows he's gonna lose. And this is the thing that people continually get wrong about Trump. The outrageous thing he says he wants -- well, if he can get it, great, but it's always always always the starting point of the negotiation, and it's always provocative so it's easier for him to get what he actually wants.

China, Russia: you want a world where everyone takes what they want? Fine, we'll take Panama and Greenland.

This is simply one of many distractions they want people to focus on while they setup the Gov to rob everyone blind.

 

[Svechhammer]

Well that doesn't look safe

 

[Svechhammer]

But also

 

[Borsig]

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Doesn't really take a constitutional law expert to interpret one of the most straightforward sentences in the Constitution.

Trump is full of shit on this one, and he's gonna lose -- but I'm sure he knows he's gonna lose. And this is the thing that people continually get wrong about Trump. The outrageous thing he says he wants -- well, if he can get it, great, but it's always always always the starting point of the negotiation, and it's always provocative so it's easier for him to get what he actually wants.

China, Russia: you want a world where everyone takes what they want? Fine, we'll take Panama and Greenland.

yuuup..... And everyone is hoping there are legal challenges to the 14th EO so it can go to the scotus which is leaning originialist.

But then again, one thought train thinks the 14th codifies birth tourism, and that the 2a pretains to muskets. The other is originalist, and thinks the 2A pretains to "all bearable arms" and that the 14th was intended to deal with slavery.

Let people stand and die on a hill of birth tourism with the immigration situation, and that being about half of what won the presidency. Keep NOT learning.

 

[Unhinged Finn]

...I care much more if they a nice person, an asshole, or just completely insufferable.

I like this scale where an asshole is average.

 

[tarheelhockey]

In other news

To be fair, this is the doctrine of several billion people’s religion.

 

[Joe McGrath]

I like this scale where an asshole is average.

This is where we are.

 

[Lempo]

I like this scale where an asshole is average.

Not unlike an average person being dumb as a left foot boot, and a half of people being dumber than that.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Guys seriously keep this a politics free zone.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Republican floats Constitutional amendment to allow Trump a third term

Rep. Ogles, of Tennessee, wants to amend the 22nd Amendment of the US Constitution, which currently limits presidents to two terms.

www.newsweek.com

Sure, at this point, go for it.

 

[LakeLivin]

Republican floats Constitutional amendment to allow Trump a third term

Rep. Ogles, of Tennessee, wants to amend the 22nd Amendment of the US Constitution, which currently limits presidents to two terms.

www.newsweek.com

Sure, at this point, go for it.

No surprise there. In his first term Trump said he should get more then 2 terms in office. When he was reelected and before even taking office he told members of congress that they needed to figure out a way to get him another term. He's a huge admirer of Orban and Putin, who have effectively turned nascent democracies into what are essentially dictatorships. And Jan 6 was just the tip of the iceberg in Trump's machinations to stay in power despite losing the 2020 election. Maybe I'm naïve but I'm less worried about a constitutional amendment to extend the term limit than some other means to stay in power. Trump just declared a national energy emergency to expand his powers despite there actually being none. Who knows what he'll try in 2028; maybe declaring martial law?

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Jan 6 was his “martial law” play. He was going to get his supporters riled up, Pence was going to be killed, and he was going to declare martial law to stay in power because of it. It was all spelled out in the Jan 6 report that no longer matters because he was elected.

That’s why he was literally telling people at his rallies that he needed to win or he’d be going to jail.

 

[Svechhammer]

Gee, I guess he did intend for it to be the salute afterall

Trump just declared a national energy emergency to expand his powers despite there actually being none.

The minute Canada shuts off power, oil and gas imports as a reaction to the tariffs, there will be. He's just getting out ahead of the storm.

 

[To Be Determined]

Republican floats Constitutional amendment to allow Trump a third term

Rep. Ogles, of Tennessee, wants to amend the 22nd Amendment of the US Constitution, which currently limits presidents to two terms.

www.newsweek.com

Sure, at this point, go for it.

i could see some dems getting on board to make third terms possible. as soon as trump '28 signs start getting printed up, "by gawd, that's obama's music!"

two men enter, one man leaves - third term thunderdome!

edit - apparently it is specifically written so obama can't run again? lol

 

[MinJaBen]

Republican floats Constitutional amendment to allow Trump a third term

Rep. Ogles, of Tennessee, wants to amend the 22nd Amendment of the US Constitution, which currently limits presidents to two terms.

www.newsweek.com

Sure, at this point, go for it.

Show me 36 states you think would pass that.


I'll wait.

 

[HisIceness]

Guys seriously keep this a politics free zone.

I agree with this guy

 

[MinJaBen]

Guys seriously keep this a politics free zone.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

i could see some dems getting on board to make third terms possible. as soon as trump '28 signs start getting printed up, "by gawd, that's obama's music!"

two men enter, one man leaves - third term thunderdome!

edit - apparently it is specifically written so obama can't run again? lol

Yeah, it’s specifically written so Trump (and FDR, I believe) are the only people that it applies to.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Gee, I guess he did intend for it to be the salute afterall

The minute Canada shuts off power, oil and gas imports as a reaction to the tariffs, there will be. He's just getting out ahead of the storm.

What's crazy is I don't think Musk is of the "ideologically committed" variety, but the "16 year old online edgelord reveling in the sado-hedonistic glee of the first time in his entire life he's felt powerful" variety.

While also being the richest man on the planet.

 

[hblueridgegal]

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[Surrounded By Ahos]

I realize that we're frantically refreshing hf/twitter to see what's going on with the Rantanen trade, but I want to talk about politics for a minute.

Specifically the Doge, and some absolutely insane convoluted government rules.



I am, of course, referring to the Doge of the Republic of Venice, and the way a new one was selected, which makes the electoral college seem like child's play:

New regulations for the elections of the doge introduced in 1268 remained in force until the end of the republic in 1797. Their intention was to minimize the influence of individual great families, and this was effected by a complex electoral machinery. Thirty members of the Great Council, chosen by lot, were reduced by lot to nine; the nine chose forty and the forty were reduced by lot to twelve, who chose twenty-five. The twenty-five were reduced by lot to nine, and the nine elected forty-five. These forty-five were once more reduced by lot to eleven, and the eleven finally chose the forty-one who elected the doge.

Election required at least twenty-five votes out of forty-one, nine votes out of eleven or twelve, or seven votes out of nine electors.

Doge of Venice - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org