Value of: Hronek's value (Value of)

[Bouboumaster]

hronek would be a great add but i’d leave EP40 where he’s at .

I would give him a go

At worst, he can get 50 points, maybe?

 

[Waldorf]

Probably I’d start as two data points what he was originally traded for and what similar players have traded for. Detroit sold on Hronek after a career year for a protected 1st and a 2nd, maybe as a floor? Dobson was Heineman and 2 mid firsts? Not sure how you comp the two.

Hronek since then is little bit older and more mature as a defenseman, so that makes it a little harder to gauge as he’s squarely in his prime. There’s also the premium of an RHD, and his contract is pretty good. He’s lost some shine since Hughes left but he hasn’t exactly had ideal partners either. So I’d say maybe like a first and a good young roster player or a more futures heavy package around 2 mid 1sts and some change ?

It changes depending on the club you target, ex: in division or maybe they’re flush with guys and you can get a little more. Do you have any ideas in mind?

 

[Icebreakers]

His value is

1st + good prospect (former 1st round with good trajectory) or

two 1st round picks (middle of the 1st).

Hes proven himself to be a top pairing guy for 3 straight seasons now averaging 45-50 points playing 23-25 minutes per game. Hes also a right shot D which teams covet.

Hes also signed for an absolute STEAL of a contract with the new cap going up at 7.25M PER for 6 more seasons through his entire prime.

 

[Team_Spirit]

If I'm the Habs I jump on this

2x 1sts
2x 2nds
Dach
Struble

Pick the years

 

[BCNate]

#16 + #18 for Hronek to the Caps.

I'd do that for sure. Having 5 picks in the first 33 would jumpstart the rebuild pretty well.

 

[StreetHawk]

Probably I’d start as two data points what he was originally traded for and what similar players have traded for. Detroit sold on Hronek after a career year for a protected 1st and a 2nd, maybe as a floor? Dobson was Heineman and 2 mid firsts? Not sure how you comp the two.

Hronek since then is little bit older and more mature as a defenseman, so that makes it a little harder to gauge as he’s squarely in his prime. There’s also the premium of an RHD, and his contract is pretty good. He’s lost some shine since Hughes left but he hasn’t exactly had ideal partners either. So I’d say maybe like a first and a good young roster player or a more futures heavy package around 2 mid 1sts and some change ?

It changes depending on the club you target, ex: in division or maybe they’re flush with guys and you can get a little more. Do you have any ideas in mind?

Factor in Hronek is at $7.3 mill cap hit vs the $9.5 mill for Dobson as well. 2 year draft difference with Hronek a late bday for his draft.

 

[dgibb10]

Factor in Hronek is at $7.3 mill cap hit vs the $9.5 mill for Dobson as well. 2 year draft difference with Hronek a late bday for his draft.

3 year age difference, remember Dobson was traded last year.

 

[Waldorf]

Factor in Hronek is at $7.3 mill cap hit vs the $9.5 mill for Dobson as well. 2 year draft difference with Hronek a late bday for his draft.

Yeah I’m not sure how to gauge it since there’s points weighing things +/- for Hronek, just thinking that’s the initial spread. It’s probably better for Vancouver at this point to sell Hronek and find a guy who will bury somebody if they cross check one of the kids in the neck. But a team will have to make it their while.

 

[Captain97]

Maybe something Around Guhle + pick with the Habs. Canucks get younger top 4 dman as they re-tool

Hutson - Hronek
Matheson - Dobson

Would be a great top 4

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

If I'm the Habs I jump on this

2x 1sts
2x 2nds
Dach
Struble

Pick the years

Might as well toss Gally in there and I’d also add Carrier

 

[BWJM]

RJ should be fired on the spot if he trades Hronek for a 1st that’s protected.

If you’re trading for Hronek you shouldn’t be worried about being a lottery team.

 

[glenbuis2]

I would give him a go

At worst, he can get 50 points, maybe?

9-11.6 million for that . newhook can get that for us until hage is ready and won’t cost us an asset or wasted cap space . EP40 will be useless in the playoffs . kapanen had better 5-5 numbers .

 

[Bouboumaster]

9-11.6 million for that . newhook can get that for us until hage is ready and won’t cost us an asset or wasted cap space . EP40 will be useless in the playoffs . kapanen had better 5-5 numbers .

In this scenario, EP40 would fed and be fed by Demidov, and wouldn't play against the opponent's top unit (that would be Suzuki's line)

EP40 also has a f***ing canonball of a shot, which could help our second PP unit, which it needs

 

[glenbuis2]

Might as well toss Gally in there and I’d also add Carrier

there’s definitely a deal to be made here for sure . i’d do a 26-1st , 27-2nd, engstrom , carrier and gallagher 50% retained . carrier can be moved again for another asset at the deadline .

 

[glenbuis2]

In this scenario, EP40 would fed and be fed by Demidov, and wouldn't play against the opponent's top unit (that would be Suzuki's line)

EP40 also has a f***ing canonball of a shot, which could help our second PP unit, which it needs

used to have a cannonball until wrist injuries set in . same with his skating and his knees . pretty risky when he’s not likely to be a factor when it matters most . (playoffs). that’s a lot of cap even with 2.6 million retained that vancouvers owners said will not happen . that’ll be exactly 10 % of our cap for a second line center with a lot of red flags . ( if no retention)

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

I think I'm still confused as to the idea that "he has really developed" since leaving detroit has come from?

he was a top pairing guy in detroit, with very similar numbers.

His on ice results stapled to Quinn Hughes were better sure, but those came crashing right back down after Hughes left.

His most impressive and productive year is still probably 22-23 in detroit

Well this is flat out wrong, did you watch him at all this year he was our only really good and consistent dman, the team was garbage he wasn't.

His best year was 23/24 as well. Also in Detroit the fans all complained that he had to be sheltered and that he wasn't dependable unless he had a solid defensive dman on his paring, he has proven both when QH was injured and this year when QH left that he could.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Flyers do really need a good offensive defenseman. So what about Michkov for Hronek, I wonder.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Flyers do really need a good offensive defenseman. So what about Michkov for Hronek, I wonder.

Would the Flyers actually do that?

 

[Kshahdoo]

Would the Flyers actually do that?

Who knows. I personally wouldn't mind to move Michkov as far from Tocchet as possible. I think Vancouver is far enough from Philadelphia. And it's the team Tocchet coached before coming to the Flyers, so Michkov won't need to explain, why his 2nd season wasn't as good as his first...

 

[absolute garbage]

#16 + #18 for Hronek to the Caps.

That's a pretty decent offer. Montreal could offer #28 + Reinbacher. Wonder which Vancouver would prefer?

 

[finaliz3d]

Probably similar-ish to what Dobson got but a little less?

Youd want to find a contender who needs a top pairing RHD1 to get the most value out of him.

 

[dgibb10]

Well this is flat out wrong, did you watch him at all this year he was our only really good and consistent dman, the team was garbage he wasn't.

His best year was 23/24 as well. Also in Detroit the fans all complained that he had to be sheltered and that he wasn't dependable unless he had a solid defensive dman on his paring, he has proven both when QH was injured and this year when QH left that he could.

His detroit year is his most points per game, most goals per game, best on ice goals share, best on ice expected goals share (outside of with quinn hughes).

Yeah the "top pairing guy on a really bad team" was exactly what he was in detroit too. He was their number 1 dman for the dog days taking hard minutes then too.


It's really weird how for every player across the league the numbers are actually wrong about and that THEM specifically is WAY better than the numbers say and you can only comment and have an opinion if you are a diehard fan of said team.

 

[glenbuis2]

In this scenario, EP40 would fed and be fed by Demidov, and wouldn't play against the opponent's top unit (that would be Suzuki's line)

EP40 also has a f***ing canonball of a shot, which could help our second PP unit, which it needs

but i’ve been wrong before to and you could be right . i just think better options will come along in the next 12-18 months .

 

[RationalExpectations]

Somewhere between Muzzin / Lindholm and Dobson’s returns in my opinion.

 

[doublechili]

Hi Guys, I joined here to get fresh perspective from opposing teams............

Can you guys give me a current value for Hronek to a rebuilding team, like the Canucks please

His cost to the Canucks was a 1st (17th OA) and a 2nd (42 OA), before he had really developed

I rank him as a 1 pairing RHD Dman, who would rank about the middle (16) of the top 32 RHD

What do you guys think?

I'm just trying to figure out how it is that you joined this week and "Canuck Fan" was still available as a user name.