How would you fix the Bruins

[PlayMakers]

Yes , it does !

I agree. As much as I think Claude needs to do a better job at coaching in some areas, the talent level is just not there.

Fwiw, I think the team has some talent, but it just doesn't fit together very well, and feels incomplete.

We're 50 games in and Krejci still doesn't have consistent line mates.

We're 50 games in and we still don't have a 3rd line that can score without getting scored on.

Sigh...

 

[JEM28]

Bruins do have some nice core talent. So do most teams. I think part of our collective disappointment is due to overrating our core. Perhaps the FO has done the same. kook at rosters around the league. Many with just as good of a core. And many of those have better supporting casts.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Colin Miller + 2nd to Toronto for JVR

JVR Krejci Vatrano
Marchand Bergeron Pastrnak
Beleskey Backes Czarnik
4th line

 

[Coach Parker]

Meet up with the media, admit that I am running a rebuild and that all prospects are staying put and take my lumps from the owner for missing the playoffs and building a proper team slowly.

Or

Use 3-4 prospects and my 1st(not named McAvoy or Carlo) to trade for one of Minnesota or Anaheim's defensemen and Landeskog. Explore the price tag on Shattenkirk vs. the above defenseman trade and explore the price tag on Trouba.

OUT:

Prospect
Prospect
Prospect
1st 2017

IN:

Landeskog
Trouba OR Shattenkirk OR Theadore OR Dumba OR Fowler

...and keep Carlo, McAvoy and whomever you added plus a young Landeskog as part of your core moving forward. Previous GM traded away Hamilton and Lucic for prospects and ripened them up, now I'm going to move the same assets for younger and faster versions of Lucic (Landeskog) and Hamilton (D mentioned above).

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Bruins do have some nice core talent. So do most teams. I think part of our collective disappointment is due to overrating our core. Perhaps the FO has done the same. kook at rosters around the league. Many with just as good of a core. And many of those have better supporting casts.

You're right on the button.

Just watch game highlights from around the league. So many really young players making an impact at the NHL level also. Does not bode well for B's.

 

[smithformeragent]

Call in the Bobs from Office Space.

They sit down and discuss Neely's role with the team.

"What would you say, ya do here?"

 

[BruinDust]

Call in the Bobs from Office Space.

They sit down and discuss Neely's role with the team.

"What would you say, ya do here?"

There is probably a few guys they should do this too.

Sacco, JFJ, Bradley, etc.

 

[Hamilton Brian]

There is probably a few guys they should do this too.

Sacco, JFJ, Bradley, etc.

Cripes! I keep forgetting about JFJ. Talk about a phantom.

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

Call in the Bobs from Office Space.

They sit down and discuss Neely's role with the team.

"What would you say, ya do here?"

 

[missingchicklet]

You're right on the button.

Just watch game highlights from around the league. So many really young players making an impact at the NHL level also. Does not bode well for B's.

Yep. I think fans of any team can put too much value on players they see on a regular basis. They see them make a few good plays or see a physical attribute or two and think a player is going to be better than they actually are. But if those people watched the players on other teams then they would realize what the Bs have is actually not all that great. Plenty of people on this board realize just how poor this roster truly is beyond the few impact players. However, some don't quite understand that fact and maintain the roster is just fine. All one has to do is look at the stats. The Bs have far too many players who cannot score and/or generate plays that result in goals. They may play hard and do some things well, but they simply are not scorers. It has been that way for several years now. I do believe that recent draft classes are going to eventually remedy that to an extent. The Bs have better prospects now who are genuinely worth getting excited about. It's going to take a little bit more time, though. In the meantime other teams in the conference are getting better and have better prospects than the Bs. That is why the Bs absolutely must quit bringing in and paying decent money to vets who are not in any way going to be a part of the future and/or do not contribute much in the present. Makes no sense at all.

 

[MOOKER411]

Waive Jimmy Hayes

Fire the coaching staff

Wait until the deadline to see what this team actually is. If they can make a push, and the odds are in our favour of making the playoffs. I would take a shot a big name on the trade board.

If the odds of us are between 40 and 50% of making the playoffs; I would do nothing, tell the room I believe in them, blah blah blah.

If the odds are 39% or below, I'm selling some players at the deadline.

Waive Jimmy Hayes - Yes

Fire coaching staff - Maybe. Not their fault with what they have to work with though.

Wait to see what this team is - Not good enough. Not even close.

Odds - Very low that this is a playoff team. Even lower that this team would do anything IF it even made it to the playoffs. This team isn't winning another cup during Chara's active career. Krejci is a shell of what he used to be. Ask them to move on and wait this out for 2 more years. It sucks to wait but don't sell youth for a crack at the playoffs this year that this team can't win anyways. Let the youth mature and let the aged move on.

 

[C77]

Waive Jimmy Hayes - Yes

Fire coaching staff - Maybe. Not their fault with what they have to work with though.

Wait to see what this team is - Not good enough. Not even close.

Odds - Very low that this is a playoff team. Even lower that this team would do anything IF it even made it to the playoffs. This team isn't winning another cup during Chara's active career. Krejci is a shell of what he used to be. Ask them to move on and wait this out for 2 more years. It sucks to wait but don't sell youth for a crack at the playoffs this year that this team can't win anyways. Let the youth mature and let the aged move on.

I am thinking something similar. Patience is key here. The team is probably going to get worse before it gets better. I know Krejci has NMC but I'd see if I could move him.

Then, I would consider taking on a bad contract or two from other teams if they were accompanied by young talent or a draft pick like the Teraveinen deal. I was hoping the Bruins would take on Bickell.

 

[cobrak]

Ok after the debacle of this week I am going to put out my firesale plan. This comes with a disclaimer that I have appreciated the contributions of most players/coach over the years but we can no longer be a grinder team that won by a miracle of hard word and good luck.

Move 1: Demote Sweeney to Scouting chief. I love the way he has restocked the prospect pool. Most of his trades and signings have been questionable or not panned out.

Move 2: Take all managerial powers from Neely, give him a cookie and tell him to smile for the camera and leave managing the team to the manager.

Move 3: Get a GM, ala Theo Epstien but for hockey.....

Move 4: Thank Claude for his service but relive him. He is no longer effective and his system is not doing it. Hire a coach who gets the speed/skill idea of the game.

Move 5: Move the following Krejci, Chara, Hayes, Nash, K miller or Morrow, preferably for real players but a dearth of draft picks is fine at this point.

Move 6: Do not resign Liles of Morrow, trade them if possible.

Move 7: Put McIntryre back in Providence and call up Subban, we need to ensure there will be no winning from goalies.

Move 8: Call up from Porvidence some kids for brief looks but do not put thier playoff run at line. They are doing good and many kids have made great strides as the season has progressed. Just leave them a lone and let them keep developing.

Move 9: put a helmet on and let the tanking begin

 

[JAD]

Ok after the debacle of this week I am going to put out my firesale plan. This comes with a disclaimer that I have appreciated the contributions of most players/coach over the years but we can no longer be a grinder team that won by a miracle of hard word and good luck.

Move 1: Demote Sweeney to Scouting chief. I love the way he has restocked the prospect pool. Most of his trades and signings have been questionable or not panned out.

Move 2: Take all managerial powers from Neely, give him a cookie and tell him to smile for the camera and leave managing the team to the manager.

Move 3: Get a GM, ala Theo Epstien but for hockey.....

Move 4: Thank Claude for his service but relive him. He is no longer effective and his system is not doing it. Hire a coach who gets the speed/skill idea of the game.

Move 5: Move the following Krejci, Chara, Hayes, Nash, K miller or Morrow, preferably for real players but a dearth of draft picks is fine at this point.

Move 6: Do not resign Liles of Morrow, trade them if possible.

Move 7: Put McIntryre back in Providence and call up Subban, we need to ensure there will be no winning from goalies.

Move 8: Call up from Porvidence some kids for brief looks but do not put thier playoff run at line. They are doing good and many kids have made great strides as the season has progressed. Just leave them a lone and let them keep developing.

Move 9: put a helmet on and let the tanking begin

You say a GM like Theo, but would Chicago have won a championship if they had fired him in year 2?

 

[GloryDaze4877]

You say a GM like Theo, but would Chicago have won a championship if they had fired him in year 2?

Nice.

If there was a dropping the mike and leaving the stage emoji, that would have been the time to use it.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

Move 2: Take all managerial powers from Neely, give him a cookie and tell him to smile for the camera and leave managing the team to the manager.

I completely agree. I would add that he should also just greet people by the gates as they enter the Garden.

 

[ranold26]

Call in the Bobs from Office Space.

They sit down and discuss Neely's role with the team.

"What would you say, ya do here?"

One of my favorite movies.
Claude ain't got time for tps reports.

 

[Dr Danglefest]

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/...e_julien_isn_t_bruins_problem_talent_level_is

don't read haggerty anymore.

Can't afford the globe beyond five clicks. Shan't abide kpd for more than one.

Sports radio, populated by awful, self-hating trolls like "felger & mazz" (tm). (sleeping well at night, michael? Say hey to satan.)

so, i turn to the herald's stephen harris, who has it about right.

Trade 19 year old, everything one might ask for, entry-level salary brandon carlo. "we need a snippah! We got a make the playoffs! Three years "dnq? *burn it down!*


"fire julien! Fire julien! Fire julien!"

don't make me laugh. [/b][/i]"fire chia! Fire chia! Fire chia!"

how's it working for you, virginia?

more hopeful for this team, for the reasons harris, and others, have cited, than at any time since the hostile takeover by jacobs, jr./neely/sweeney.

We now have a fine admixture of veterans, young, affordable guns, and an ever deeper prospect pool. Ps, boston bruins dna, all.

That is good.

What is not good:

Flawed, even poor, leadership. This includes julien, yet implicates team personel & general management the more.


look at the record.

claude julien -- and peter chiarelli, & with little evidence to commend the point, charlie jacobs -- restored this franchise to respectability.

They created an environment of accountability, pride, and winning. Wonder of wonders, players actually *wanted* to come to boston.

Can't speak to the dark days of the 50s/60s the basement bruins, et. Al.

How many here were fans in the 70s & 80s? Fewer in the 90s & early "oughts," as sinden & oc ran the franchise into the ground?

So, as some ***** & moan, remember what you've got. A better than average franchise, with better than average managment (hmm), coaching (yes, and eff you, jc detractors) and better than average talent.

Julien brought winning from the very beginning of his tenure. Again, look at his record.

The easy move, the stupid move, the felger & mazz, chb, kpd move, is, of course, to can julien.

Bit of breathing room for cam & don. Foolish move, gentlemen. Step away from the vehicle.

leadership. That's the quesion.

That's on claude, but also management and the leadership group among players. They all know who they are, and so do we.

#32 & #8:

you've made rook mistakes. Excellent bits, too.

Whatever you do now, please,


please don't be precipitous or panic driven (for your jobs) in your decisions.

the eyes of bruins nation are upon you.

much love,

gh

ps don't eff it up.

a massive breath of fresh air

 

[RobG15]

Bruins needs

Top 2 D man
Top 6 LW

If I were Don Sweeney I would......

Trades....

To Pitts
Chara (Bruins retain 50%)

To Boston
1st round pick (late 28 to 30 OVA)

To Colorado
Zbroil
Spooner
1st round pick (Bos)

To Bos
Langdeskog

Wavie.....

Jimmy Hayes

Bruins aren't going to go deep in the playoffs with the current roster so build for next season

Sign....

K. Shatenkirk $6 million x 7 yrs
D. Moore $1 million x 1 yr

Possible lines......

Landeskog Krejci Pastrnak
Marchand Bergeron Vatrano
Senyshyn Backes Schaller
Beleskey Moore Czarnik
Blidh

Carlo Shattenkirk
McAvoy Krug
McQuaid C. Miller
K. Miller

Rask
McIntyre

 

[Spanky185]

You say a GM like Theo, but would Chicago have won a championship if they had fired him in year 2?

There was no guise of trying to compete and rebuild. The Cubs flat out sucked for years 1-3. How many people would be on board with the Bruins having a 50 loss (or whatever the NHL equivalent of a baseball 100 loss team is factoring in OTL points) season? I am, but I'm in the minority on how the team should build the roster.

The Cubs also nabbed Maddon within days of him leaving Tampa Bay specifically because of his progressive managing style and work with the kids. Hmm...

 

[Fenway]

One of the writers at Boston Sports Desk has an interesting suggestion on how to fix the front office.

The Bruins have arrived at the NHL’s All-Star break, and although they pulled off an improbable victory at home against the Pittsburgh Penguins 4-3 at the Garden on Thursday night, they remain a franchise in desperate need of fixing. Just as the Red Sox saw themselves in the same predicament in August of 2015, when they went out and hired Dave Dombrowski to essentially become the czar on Yawkey Way, after being on their way to their third season out of four, finishing in the basement of the American League East.

Dombrowski is a seasoned veteran, who has had success in several places, and there is little doubt that he controls every move that is being made in the Sox front office. Whether or not the team will win a championship under his watch is still to be determined, but based on last year’s results and his off-season moves this winter; there is every reason to believe his club will be in contention for the next several years.

What else can you ask for than that?

The move that John Henry and Tom Werner made some 18 months ago is precisely what Charlie Jacobs, and his detached dad need to make now to with this Bruins team. They need to identify and target a proven NHL executive – someone like Holyoke’s own Dean Lombardi would be an interesting choice – make him an offer he can’t refuse, then give him the keys to the franchise like the Sox did with Dombrowski.

According to this piece in the LA Times, Lombardi signed a four-year extension in 2013 that expires after this season. During his time with the Kings, he built a team that Bruins fans would have loved to call their own. They were skilled, tough to play against, and talented enough to win two Stanley Cups.

Sounds familiar, eh, Bruins fans?

http://www.bostonsportsdesk.com/the...the-red-sox-to-see-how-to-fix-what-ails-them/

I have no idea if Lombardi wants to leave California but the fact is his contract expires at the end of this season and nobody can dispute he resume.

 

[shelbysdad]

First admit that they are what they are...don't see how a few trades wins the cup.

Identify who on the present roster is the core you keep.

Realize the league is now a skating, transition league, having defense that can't skate or score is a major issue.

Don't fall in love with 3rd/4th liners, and don't overpay them....they are replaceable from free agency or from within. How many 3rd/4th liners do we have in Providence right now. And don't sign players like Nash, could be replaced from multiple players (Blidh, Accari, Heinen, Cehlarik)

Patience....problem is there is a hole in our prospects due to poor drafting. All our potential callups are not ready experience wise. Look at all our top prospects....drafted 1-2 years ago, not 3-5 where they would be ready to contribute. Takes time

Adopt the Patriots model... No long term/expensive contracts for older players....let them walk away

Get rid of the overpaid contacts....Hayes and a 4th to someone for a 5th instead of a buyout

Answer - there is no quick fix....
patience is key, let the kids develop and in a few years it will be a different story

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

First admit that they are what they are...don't see how a few trades wins the cup.

Identify who on the present roster is the core you keep.

Realize the league is now a skating, transition league, having defense that can't skate or score is a major issue.

Don't fall in love with 3rd/4th liners, and don't overpay them....they are replaceable from free agency or from within. How many 3rd/4th liners do we have in Providence right now. And don't sign players like Nash, could be replaced from multiple players (Blidh, Accari, Heinen, Cehlarik)

Patience....problem is there is a hole in our prospects due to poor drafting. All our potential callups are not ready experience wise. Look at all our top prospects....drafted 1-2 years ago, not 3-5 where they would be ready to contribute. Takes time

Adopt the Patriots model... No long term/expensive contracts for older players....let them walk away

Get rid of the overpaid contacts....Hayes and a 4th to someone for a 5th instead of a buyout

Answer - there is no quick fix....
patience is key, let the kids develop and in a few years it will be a different story

Have to point out when b's let older expensive players like boychuk or lucic walk... we see a very vocal response from fans. I seriously doubt the majority Here will support that idea unless the team wins

Winning tends to make fans happy... losing doesn't

So the way to fix the Bruins is to win like the patriots do... then all other evil becomes forgiven

 

[shelbysdad]

Have to point out when b's let older expensive players like boychuk or lucic walk... we see a very vocal response from fans. I seriously doubt the majority Here will support that idea unless the team wins

Winning tends to make fans happy... losing doesn't

So the way to fix the Bruins is to win like the patriots do... then all other evil becomes forgiven

So what is your fix for *winning* ?


And whenever we pay players with long/expensive contracts people don't support that either...so we should keep older expensive players, watch the production drop, but give them raises, while the inexpensive younger blood is in the minors being blocked because we have older players on immovable contracts? So basically, decide who we like, give them contracts until they retire?

 

[BMC]

First thing, no more ex-Bruins in the front office or at the very least not in positions of authority. Bringing in/keeping ex-Bruins in management simply does not work anymore, not that it ever worked very well.

Hire a GM with a good record in both drafting & trading. Give him/her instructions to build a team from the net out and give them 5 years to do it. Tell the fans what you're doing and why on a regular basis. Then get the **** out of the way and let them get on with it.