How Would Canadas Second Team Do vs Non Usa Canada Competition

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Hyman-Scheifele-Wilson
Johnson-Duchene-Strome
PLD-Suzuki-Celebrini
Kyrou-Thomas-Barzal

Bouchard-Tanev
Hamilton-Ekblad
Dobson-Weegar

Thompson
Blackwood
Kuemper

Probably missed some names as I just threw this together quick so you can play around with the roster, but I think most of those guys are on it, how would they do vs everybody not named Canada/USA?
 
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Bedard should be somewhere.

Morgan Reilly and Ekblad? Really? Over guys like Hamilton, Chychurn, Dunn, and Chabot?
 
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The Canadian A team was pretty much neck-and-neck with the USA and Sweden and not as far ahead of a beat up Finland as you'd think. Their B team would be a clear 5th (or 6th if you have Russia)
 
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Are we really doing this again?

The Canadian A team was pretty much neck-and-neck with the USA and Sweden and not as far ahead of a beat up Finland as you'd think. Their B team would be a clear 5th (or 6th if you have Russia)
It's a good question because the B team lacks the top end talent of non USA/Canada teams, but simultaneously they will always be deeper as a whole. The sort of team that can definitely grind out some 2-1 or 1-0 type victories.

There are big dropoffs for non USA/Canada nations after the first two lines and d pairing, whereas Canada's B team basically runs a perfect all around team from line 1-4, D1-6.

Anyways that's what makes it interesting, there are those like you who will say the top end talent of the other teams will take over and make it a non-game, there are those like me that think the depth would pose an interesting challenge for those teams. If Canada and USA can lose/be given a run for their money from teams with worse top end talent and depth, then I don't see why a team with perfect depth can't give those very same teams a run for their own money.
 
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Canada’s B team would win a 7-game series against everyone except the US, Sweden, Finland, the Czechs and maybe Slovakia, but would likely beat the rest.

In a tournament, Canada’s B team could win the whole thing, because that’s tournament hockey.
 
Are we really doing this again?

The Canadian A team was pretty much neck-and-neck with the USA and Sweden and not as far ahead of a beat up Finland as you'd think. Their B team would be a clear 5th (or 6th if you have Russia)

That B team listed above could easily beat Team Finland or Sweden. Especially in a one game elimination type tournament.

I mean really look at that roster listed above. It is not a clear 5th or 6th. I'll take Suzuki, Thomas and Duchene up the middle over Aho, Granlund and Lundell or Zibanejad, Pettersson and Eriksson Ek. And if not, it's still very close.
 
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I have Canada B winning many international tournaments, they would instantly become the 2nd best hockey nation in the world behind Canada.
 
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Posts like this is why the euro posters shit on Canada when they lose.
I mean you should, but don't delude yourself into thinking this team isn't likely to beat all non Canada/USA teams.

If those teams (that have worse depth and worse top end talent than Canada/USA) are able to give them a run for their money, why wouldn't a team with worse top end talent but better depth be able to beat them?
 
I mean you should, but don't delude yourself into thinking this team isn't likely to beat all non Canada/USA teams.

If those teams (that have worse depth and worse top end talent than Canada/USA) are able to give them a run for their money, why wouldn't a team with worse top end talent but better depth be able to beat them?
The fact you see it as Canada and USA alone is pretty funny to me.
 
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The fact you see it as Canada and USA alone is pretty funny to me.
That's the reality, you can laugh all you want, but Canada is the GOAT by far. USA is the only team that has a chance of equaling/maybe overtaking them.

Countries 1/4 the size or a bigger country like Russia would've done it already if they could've, they didn't and they won't. America has 350+ million people and Hockey popularity is growing.

World Juniors tell the tale, last 10 years 4-4 USA Canada and 2 for Finland. If other countries stood a chance the juniors would show that, they don't and they haven't been showing that.
 
So the Czech eliminating Canada in back to back Quarter finals tells you what then?

Back to the big boys... USA hasn't won a senior event since 1996. They actually have to win something to be declared the best.
Agreed. You could honestly argue Sweden for 2nd in recent best-on-best competitions. Gold in 2006, Silver in 2014, 3rd at the 2016 WCOH.

The US has the talent to be the best hockey nation on the planet, but they need to get it done.

Canada is still the most dominant best-on-best team this century.

2002 Olympics Gold
2004 World Cup of Hockey
2010 Olympics Gold
2014 Olympics Gold
2016 World Cup of Hockey
2025 4-Nations
 
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Agreed. You could honestly argue Sweden for 2nd in recent best-on-best competitions. Gold in 2006, Silver in 2014, 3rd at the 2016 WCOH.

The US has the talent to be the best hockey nation on the planet, but they need to get it done.

Canada is still the most dominant best-on-best team this century.

2002 Olympics Gold
2004 World Cup of Hockey
2010 Olympics Gold
2014 Olympics Gold
2016 World Cup of Hockey
2025 4-Nations
Canada is undeniable. They are even winning Skoda's at a high clip. Their senior results are insanely good.

I fear that when the US does win (and they are long overdue and definitely have the horses to pull it off!) that I will be reading about how Canada has lost their spot on top for 2 years till the next tourney.lol
 
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Canada is undeniable. They are even winning Skoda's at a high clip. Their senior results are insanely good.

I fear that when the US does win (and they are long overdue and definitely have the horses to pull it off!) that I will be reading about how Canada has lost their spot on top for 2 years till the next tourney.lol

I'm American and know my fellow fans. Believe me, you will. You'll hear it a lot, and over and over again. And even I will get sick of it. As a whole, US national team fans are unabashedly arrogant, which I'm fully aware of, and I hate it.
 
I'm American and know my fellow fans. Believe me, you will. You'll hear it a lot, and over and over again. And even I will get sick of it. As a whole, US national team fans are unabashedly arrogant, which I'm fully aware of, and I hate it.
I will say.. on HF, I actually cannot think of one arrogant US poster. Nice lot to be honest!

And you're right. I was around in 1996 and that was a lot of chest thumping. Imagine if I went on HF in 1996 and wrote 'doubt you guys ever win another senior event'.. I would've got threadbanned while being correct.haha

And I should add... I thought US would've one a lot more senior events since then! I love the program and the players.
 
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I will say.. on HF, I actually cannot think of one arrogant US poster. Nice lot to be honest!

And you're right. I was around in 1996 and that was a lot of chest thumping. Imagine if I went on HF in 1996 and wrote 'doubt you guys ever win another senior event'.. I would've got threadbanned while being correct.haha

And I should add... I thought US would've one a lot more senior events since then! I love the program and the players.
It’s not like the US has had that many bad finishes, but when they’re bad, they’re BAD. Looking at you 2014 Olympic Team and 2016 World Cup.

They just always come short against Canada in the big ones (2002, 2010, 2025)
 
It’s not like the US has had that many bad finishes, but when they’re bad, they’re BAD. Looking at you 2014 Olympic Team and 2016 World Cup.

They just always come short against Canada in the big ones (2002, 2010, 2025)
Definitely not bad...not even close to bad. But 1996 is a long time in between gold's.
 
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