Player Discussion How overpaid is Tavares

How overpaid is John Tavares at 11M

  • 40%

    Votes: 50 17.2%
  • 50%

    Votes: 60 20.7%
  • 60%

    Votes: 52 17.9%
  • 70%

    Votes: 27 9.3%
  • Less than 40%

    Votes: 52 17.9%
  • More than 70%

    Votes: 49 16.9%

  • Total voters
    290

hockeywiz542

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John Tavares has started strong for the Maple Leafs. Will he stay in Toronto? - The Athletic

On the Leafs side of this negotiation, they naturally want to keep the contract number down. Every bit of cap space counts in Toronto. They might point to the $5 million Patrice Bergeron earned, including bonuses, during his last season in Boston. Or even the last two years of Joe Pavelski’s career with the Dallas Stars, when he took home $6 million and $5.5 million, respectively.

They are the only team that can offer Tavares the chance to keep playing at home.
And while the Leafs continue to value Tavares’ play and the intangible qualities he brings — helping set an example for the organization’s young players and even opening his house to Matthew Knies and Fraser Minten when they first arrived in Toronto — they need to preserve the ability to invest elsewhere on roster upgrades as he ages and becomes less productive.

Given the dynamics at play, it wouldn’t be surprising if the sides landed on a compromise that sees some of the money deferred beyond the life of the next contract. The Leafs used that mechanism to lower the cap hit on Jake McCabe’s recent extension and both sides in this negotiation are believed to be open to exploring a similar type of structure for Tavares.

For his part, Tavares seems to have a realistic view of where he’s at in his career and what he’s up against. He cites work done on his skating with consultant Paul Matheson in recent years as an example of something that’s helped him push the limits of his performance. A former No. 1 NHL draft pick who entered the league with massive expectations and became a 1,000-plus point scorer, he’s trying to strike the balance between leaning into his longtime strengths and adding new elements to his game.

“I’ve called it an evolution a lot over the last couple of years,” Tavares said. “I truly think that’s what it is. I can’t try to compare myself and my game to 10 years ago or my first year that I came here, things like that.

“A lot happens within the league, within the team, within yourself and you gain so much more experience and knowledge.”

Historically, star players have often had to wait before signing fourth NHL contracts that take them into their twilight.
 
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thewave

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No more than a $5 million AAV on his next deal. Deferring money like they just did with McCabe seems like a good move again, especially for John with how much he got up front on his last deal.

Let's face it Jimmy. The way our boys want paid we are going to be deferring, putting on layaway, cooking the books, sending people to see Robidas on the island. Selling futures just to secure the next 3 years of peak AM and hope to win ASAP

3years of compete and 5 years of hell but on the bright side, he'll may bring new stars if we don't trade our 1sts.
 

Evilhomer

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Let's face it Jimmy. The way our boys want paid we are going to be deferring, putting on layaway, cooking the books, sending people to see Robidas on the island. Selling futures just to secure the next 3 years of peak AM and hope to win ASAP

3years of compete and 5 years of hell but on the bright side, he'll may bring new stars if we don't trade our 1sts.
This is exactly what will happen. Can you blame them? This will be this team's best chance in literally generations.
 

Gabriel426

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This is exactly what will happen. Can you blame them? This will be this team's best chance in literally generations.
Well sofar, our boys had shown that they are just another playoffs team, nothing more and nothing less, lol.

I just find it funny that the moment the Leafs lose a game against a true contender. The media’s just come out and hinted the numbers for MM and JT extension. As in they do that to keep us from looking at their 5-1 loss last night, lol.
 

hockeywiz542

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“The bottom line is going to be, you know, what’s a fair number? What is that fair AAV? I don’t think it can be $5 million. I think it has to be below that. And if you’re Tavares, maybe you are, you know, looking at it and thinking, ‘Well, I just put up big numbers, and I feel really, really good. I think I’ve got at least two more years of that in me.’ Then it becomes more of a negotiation of creativity.”

“But I don’t think they can have him making $5 million. It’s got to be less than that. How do you get there? That’s going to be the challenge.”
 

Drytoast

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He's been playing better then expected on the last year of his contract. He's been a steady contributor since we signed him.

I'm satisfied.
 

TopCheeseShotta

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JT is the man. All you clowns talking mess about Johnny when he actually had the balls to come home. Not Stamkos, chicken.. Not Nash, chicken.. Not any of them that talked a good game but never made it happen. That was JT. Left 13 on the table to come home, too. If you cant cheer for a guy like that, get yo heart checked. A couple good breaks, instead of concussions in Mtl - or impossible hard luck in multiple game 7s going down to the wire - and this guy would have a statue out front.

Now he's point per game again in the FINAL year of a contract we thought would be an albatross 3 years ago?!?!? The guy is a marvel right now. Hes one of the most dominant faceoff men in the league too. Yall should consider yourselves lucky to have him instead of talking that madness.

Anything less than 6.25 moving fwd would be a literal steal.
 

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