Player Discussion How overpaid is Tavares

[thewave]

Taraves @ $11 mil is likely the WORST overpaid contract in the NHL at his current production level >>> Patrick Marleau was in the last year of his $5.6 mil deal.

Tavares is likely to come in at 60-65 points if lucky this year . IMO

It's very bad this year. Most things Dubas had a hand in ended up an unmitigated disaster though.

 

[Stephen]

It's very bad this year. Most things Dubas had a hand in ended up an unmitigated disaster though.

Only 73 more regular season games of this contract.

 

[hamzarocks]

Marleau was a 20 pt foward making 6.25m in the final year of his deal

That was with the sharks & pens yes (22 pts in 66 games)

For us he had 37 in 82 at 6.25M in 2018. Overpaid but comparable to Tavares putting 60 pts at 11M

 

[Gallagbi]

That was with the sharks & pens yes (22 pts in 66 games)

For us he had 37 in 82 at 6.25M in 2018. Overpaid but comparable to Tavares putting 60 pts at 11M

...so the second year of a third year deal for Marleau

 

[sunstersun]

For the best of the team, he should go. No league min offer.

 

[hamzarocks]

...so the second year of a third year deal for Marleau

Yes, but Marleau would have put more pts on a better leafs team (offensively) then a bad Sharks team in 2020

He was cooked in year 3 but so is Tavares right now and he is at 11M.

Tavares is not getting PP1 spot on merit or ability anymore. He is getting that spot due to past play and reputation

Though if you want to disagree on tabares being the worst last year UFA ti marleau then he can be 2nd worst

 

[Maple Leaf]

Yes, but Marleau would have put more pts on a better leafs team (offensively) then a bad Sharks team in 2020

He was cooked in year 3 but so is Tavares right now and he is at 11M.

Tavares is not getting PP1 spot on merit or ability anymore. He is getting that spot due to past play and reputation

Though if you want to disagree on tabares being the worst last year UFA ti marleau then he can be 2nd worst

Why sign cooked tavares
Smart teams move on

 

[keonsbitterness]

Armstrong but he was not the Capt when he retired, Capt in 67 but retired in 71?

Correct, and he had a speaking role in the 1971 movie Faceoff featuring the 70-71 Leafs.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I think the best thing to do is let him retire as a Leaf at the end of the season and sign him as a faceoff coach.

 

[TMLAM34]

I was on board to re-signing him at a much lower cap hit after this season, but I think the best solution for the Leafs would be to completely move on from JT. Way too slow for today’s NHL and he’s become a turnover machine.

 

[mapleleaf979]

Tavares as a 4c, Id worry about that in the playoffs right now. He is the slowest skater in the league. I do not want Tavares for league minimum.

 

[MK78]

Yeah I can't see them resigning JT if the rest of the year looks like this.

 

[1specter]

For how much people have been shitting on him, you wouldn't know that he's only been held without a point in two games so far.

 

[arso40]

For how much people have been shitting on him, you wouldn't know that he's only been held without a point in two games so far.

I myself Is one of them

 

[Zybalto]

5 goals and 9 points in 9 games this season....

22 goals and 42 points with a 65% 5v5 goal differential and one of the best faceoff guys in hockey in his last 44 games after last years slump.

Future HOFer who gave up the captaincy with no complaints and is a total team player and class act his entire time here as a big name who wanted to come to our team.

Hard not to root for the guy, that's for sure.

 

[hamzarocks]

Definately putting pts up and playing well the last 3-4 games

Hopefully he can keep that up and have a good playoff run

 

[1specter]

I myself Is one of them

I have been telling folks that he started the season with a bad flu, he even mentioned how he dropped a bunch of weight and was struggling to keep up. I expect him to have a very strong November if he's back to 100% now.

 

[arso40]

I have been telling folks that he started the season with a bad flu, he even mentioned how he dropped a bunch of weight and was struggling to keep up. I expect him to have a very strong November if he's back to 100% now.

I hope so for the teams sake

 

[Maple Leaf]

I hope so for the teams sake

I hope so too we can can trade him

 

[WillyC]

5 goals and 4 assists in 9 games played… the “wouldn’t sign him for league minimum” crowd are not going to like that.

 

[Leafsfan74]

I've been primarily giving him a pass for all his years here because of the manner in which he arrived. As a UFA, he turned down more money to get into the frying pan. He also hasn't been controversial and has captained the team to the playoffs each year even though he also owns the playoff futility.

He is adapting his game over the years and is a nice fit for Berubes philosophy if he can maintain his front of the net posture.

Ultimately the core has to change though regardless. Especially if the cap hits are too high. He will be taking significantly less if he re-signs or Leafs must walk. Marner will not be taking less and will be the man out if the team is serious about winning, it's that simple.

Therein lies the scenario and everyone on the team knows it.

 

[Stephen]

5 goals and 4 assists in 9 games played… the “wouldn’t sign him for league minimum” crowd are not going to like that.

I don’t think he’ll be scoring a hat trick on a regular basis but the Jets game was a big statement. Still think in the long run you want to turn the page and just build a different program.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

He is going to finish the season with like 70ish points and we will still have people in here saying they wouldn't sign him for more then 3 million a year lol

 

[Its not your fault]

This year by about half his cap hit. Throughout the contract he’s probably about 1.5-2 mill overpaid per year

However if he was offered 13. Does that give those numbers an over under of half or even a quarter of the difference?

 

[AcerComputer]

The fact it is the last year, the contract is ending right on time. Hopefully we can use that new cap space to sign Sam Bennett if he goes to UFA. Otherwise it now gives us some cap and roster flexibility that we haven't had since signing him.