How much support for Neely as Team President?

MattFromFranklin

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Option #5. He's nothing more than a figurehead and a "yes" man, IMO. He's more suited to greet the fans as they enter the Garden with a smile and a jumbo home-cooked meatball than he is as president of a NHL club (or any front office position, for that matter).
 

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Wow. These results are overwhelming so far. And frankly, I expected them. I've never heard a single fan say they approve of Neely's work here.

I dare say you could make a poll like this for every member of the organization and maybe aside from Jimmy Hayes, no results would be quite to clear.
 

Baddkarma

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Bruins won a cup, were close to another, then the whole organization failed to address the Seguin situation properly and totally screwed the cap up. Neely takes part of that blame. Chia more imho. Neely is not the issue and may not be the solution either so he may have to go.

The Bruins under Chia drafted poorly for years and managed the cap terribly after the cup win. They are paying for that now as they are at best a team in transition and will be for the next 5-6 years until they make some deals and get their young players into the mix.
 

Sharp Shooting Neely

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Struggle to understand what his role actually entails. Overwhelming feedback here with his potential meddling in decisions and there being a disconnect with other management personnel. Asked this question in another thread. If any other person with the same title (solely president and not in dual roles) in their organization get as much scrutiny? A couple do come to mind. Maybe a more obvious cases is the disfunction leafs in the Burke era and perhaps to a lesser extent with Shanahan presiding during the most recent overhaul. The rocky change in management with Flordia recently is another.

For anybody with out the benefit of insider knowledge it does pose a question on if the issue is real or imagined. Power struggles always have collateral damage. Should that be the case here the quicker it gets resolved the better. Left to fester it will only lead to a more dysfunctional management of the team and unproductive infighting.
 

Boston Bruno

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Bruins won a cup, were close to another, then the whole organization failed to address the Seguin situation properly and totally screwed the cap up. Neely takes part of that blame. Chia more imho. Neely is not the issue and may not be the solution either so he may have to go.

The Bruins under Chia drafted poorly for years and managed the cap terribly after the cup win. They are paying for that now as they are at best a team in transition and will be for the next 5-6 years until they make some deals and get their young players into the mix.

anyone involved with that Seguin fiasco should be canned.

Terrible.
 

Danton Heineken

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I wouldn't hire him to be Team President of a rec league team.

Cam Neely the executive has ruined the legacy of Cam Neely the player. At this point, I'd fire him and un-retire his number.

Get rid of the President-GM management model. Too many cooks in the kitchen. Let Sweeney run his show and answer only to ownership.
 

Hamilton Brian

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At this point, I'd fire him and un-retire his number.

That's a bit stern, but I get the sentiment
Get rid of the President-GM management model. Too many cooks in the kitchen. Let Sweeney run his show and answer only to ownership.

Yeah, I could see altering the current structure. Too many cooks, indeed.
 

VanIsle

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He was one of my sports heros growing up, I wish I had a picture of my room back then of all my posters on the wall.

Cam Neely, Ray Bourque, Andy Moog, Clyde Drexler, Christian Okoye, Mario Lemieux, Warren Moon, Ken Griffey Jr, Sean Kemp, Charles Barkley, etc.

Man it was cool.

As a player amazing as team president less than desired.
 

talkinaway

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I wouldn't hire him to be Team President of a rec league team.

Cam Neely the executive has ruined the legacy of Cam Neely the player. At this point, I'd fire him and un-retire his number.

Get rid of the President-GM management model. Too many cooks in the kitchen. Let Sweeney run his show and answer only to ownership.

I agree with this completely. Frankly, I'm confused as to "where the buck stops" between Cam and Don, and what exactly the generic role of President entails. I get what a GM does: trades, drafts, communicates with coaching staff to understand their needs, and reports to ownership. I feel like Cam overlaps with that a lot, and I'll admit that I have no idea what the President does that the GM doesn't do - I'd love to be educated.

The fundamental question I have is: when Cam and Don disagree, and cannot come to an agreement, who wins?

I have the lingering feeling it's Cam, because he's been in his role for longer. I'm 100% for firing Cam...I've said "reduced role" would be a good idea, because I know he's idolized by many. I'm not sure he'd take it, though. Even if the buck does stop with Don and not Cam, frankly Don hasn't been there long enough, and a revolving door of GMs is a sure-fire way to burn the place down.
 

Dellstrom

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As most people have said I think it's great that he's in the organization and around the players... But he's proven he can't handle the responsibility of being a President. It really might not be all his fault, I just think him being more-or-less the team's second GM is a horrendous structure. But as talkinaway said, he's been in this role for a couple of years. He might be why it is that way.

To quote Oscar Martinez... where would Catholicism be without the Popes?
 

BergyWho37

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It's hard waiting for prospects.

Take Boychuk, Hamilton, Lucic off any team without replacing and see what happens.

Finally getting Carlo from the Boychuk trade so it's helping.
 

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Option #5. He's nothing more than a figurehead and a "yes" man, IMO. He's more suited to greet the fans as they enter the Garden with a smile and a jumbo home-cooked meatball than he is as president of a NHL club (or any front office position, for that matter).

I would be happy if he were nothing more than a yes man and a figurehead. I thought that was the role he was hired for.

Sadly, I think he is far to involved in the hockey decision making process
 

Bellefior

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IMO you replace them all. Maybe with the exception of Sweeney, since it I think it's still to early to see how his picks/moves will fare. (Really wish he had kept Martin Jones right now though for a back up.)
 

Hali33

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He was my hockey hero growing up so the sooner they get him out of a hockey ops role the better. I don't enjoy thinking negatively of him, feels blasphemous to my childhood.
 

Pia8988

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If Cam were to lose his job, I can't see any NHL team even giving him an interview.
 

LouJersey

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He was my favorite athlete ever. I cannot stand him as the President. I love his enthusiasm with wanting to win, but I just don't think he knows how to build a team in today's day and age. I think he has trouble with today's hockey player and his expectations (I happen to agree) that these guys should wear their hearts on their sleeve and leave body parts out on the ice from playing hard are unrealistic nowadays. I think he means well but he's in over his head.
 

LouJersey

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I wouldn't hire him to be Team President of a rec league team.

Cam Neely the executive has ruined the legacy of Cam Neely the player. At this point, I'd fire him and un-retire his number.

Get rid of the President-GM management model. Too many cooks in the kitchen. Let Sweeney run his show and answer only to ownership.

I don't look at him any differently as a player. I think it's foolish to let his presidency change your views on him as a player. They are unrelated and decades apart.
 

FROMSHORETOCHARA

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As an executive neely absolutely SUC....er ....stinks. And he likely has to go not just be bumped upstairs, everyone in the league know he basically executed a coup and ousted Chiarelli. Any new president is going to insist he go and not be looking over his shoulder.....waiting to sabotage another exec and snake his way back in. I don't like his hockey side and frankly to my knowledge not sure what makes him a financial wiz either. Fire Neely. New president makes call on Sweeney and coach.
 

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