How much support for Julien as Head Coach? (All Julien Talk IV)

[Otherworld]

All here saying it's time for a change ..... A change to what? A coach that is worse?

If the Bruins let CJ go they might as well blow the entire thing up IMO. Maybe this needs to happen, but to think that any other coach would fair better with this group of players is a stretch to say the least...

 

[DKH]

Claude should get this poll framed

 

[Therick67]

All here saying it's time for a change ..... A change to what? A coach that is worse?

If the Bruins let CJ go they might as well blow the entire thing up IMO. Maybe this needs to happen, but to think that any other coach would fair better with this group of players is a stretch to say the least...

So it's an automatic the next coach will be a failure?

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

This too is very conclusive...

 

[TMac21]

Claude should get this poll framed

 

[LSCII]

All here saying it's time for a change ..... A change to what? A coach that is worse?

If the Bruins let CJ go they might as well blow the entire thing up IMO. Maybe this needs to happen, but to think that any other coach would fair better with this group of players is a stretch to say the least...

Coaching is a performance based job. If you are not getting the results, regardless of how good your resume is, you don't get to stay at that position for life. On top of that, all coaches have a shelf life. Given that the team has crapped the bed twice in the last two seasons, and is under performing now, despite having enough talent to be a playoff team, can you really say he's getting everything he can out of this group?

 

[b in vancouver]

I get that people might want him gone as they want a different brand of hockey and if the Bruins miss again - coaches don't usually survive three missed playoffs but...

I don't get the shelf-life argument. This roster has been turned over a tonne in the past two years. The only constant executing players are the ones that have been around for awhile. You can argue that a different coach could implement the talent of this roster better but you can't say that the team has tuned him out or anything. Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Chara, Rask (Krug, McQuaid) continue to do the heavy lifting for this team. And they're the only ones whom have been around. For everyone else - Julien is a 'newish' coach. And if the 'new' players are tuning him out then they're the ones whom need to be moved.

It might be stale as a fan - but this is one of the best coached teams in the NHL. And it has been for years.

 

[bearcountry17]

Pure curiosity. Who was the last coach to have success with the same organization after 10 years?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Pure curiosity. Who was the last coach to have success with the same organization after 10 years?

Well, Barry Trotz.

Lindy Ruff for a long time with the Sabres. Also Al Arbour. I think only those three in my lifetime. Oh and Claude Julien.

 

[Fenway]

Well, Barry Trotz.

Lindy Ruff for a long time with the Sabres. Also Al Arbour. I think only those three in my lifetime. Oh and Claude Julien.

Have to include Mike Babcock in Detroit as well and Quenneville in Chicago seems certain to meet that benchmark.

 

[LSCII]

I get that people might want him gone as they want a different brand of hockey and if the Bruins miss again - coaches don't usually survive three missed playoffs but...

I don't get the shelf-life argument. This roster has been turned over a tonne in the past two years. The only constant executing players are the ones that have been around for awhile. You can argue that a different coach could implement the talent of this roster better but you can't say that the team has tuned him out or anything. Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Chara, Rask (Krug, McQuaid) continue to do the heavy lifting for this team. And they're the only ones whom have been around. For everyone else - Julien is a 'newish' coach. And if the 'new' players are tuning him out then they're the ones whom need to be moved.

It might be stale as a fan - but this is one of the best coached teams in the NHL. And it has been for years.

I've been a lifelong Red Sox fan, and Terry Francona was by far the best Sox manager during the entire time I've been a fan. Even he eventually lost the room and his message fell on deaf ears because the team leaders grew too comfortable with how things were. Instead of being involved in the game, they were eating fried chicken and drinking beers in the clubhouse. End result is Francona got canned.

I fully believe Claude is at this point now, which is why you see epic late season collapses and the team **** the bed in virtually every big game and must win situation during the last three seasons. Four if I want to include the playoff bed ******** the year before. His message may still be valid, but the delivery has grown stale and the players don't seem to be paying attention any longer. That's why I say he's lived past his shelf life with the team. When you lose the room, it's time to move on for both parties. This is where I think Claude is now.

 

[LSCII]

Well, Barry Trotz.

Lindy Ruff for a long time with the Sabres. Also Al Arbour. I think only those three in my lifetime. Oh and Claude Julien.

Wouldn't call what Ruff had with the Sabres anything close to success...

 

[since76]

Pure curiosity. Who was the last coach to have success with the same organization after 10 years?

To be honest, i don't remember one bruins coach who had 10 years of success
And that include claude julien because he had 7 years of success not 10
And who was last bruins coach who missed playoffs 3 years in a row ?

 

[KnightofBoston]

I think Sacco needs to go, but I do think at this point it depends largely on the players - can julien keep the motivation and calm leadership high enough to put together enough points remaining in the schedule?

What are your predictions?

Tuesday, Jan. 31 at Tampa Bay, 7 p.m. - win

February
Wednesday, Feb. 1 at Washington, 8 p.m. Loss
Saturday, Feb. 4 vs. Toronto, 7 p.m. Win
Thursday, Feb. 9 vs. San Jose, 7 p.m. OT loss
Saturday, Feb. 11 vs. Vancouver, 1 p.m. Win
Sunday, Feb. 12 vs. Montreal, 7:30 p.m. Win
Sunday, Feb. 19 at San Jose, 8:30 p.m. Loss
Wednesday, Feb. 22 at Anaheim, 10:30 p.m. Loss
Thursday, Feb. 23 at Los Angeles, 10:30 p.m. Loss
Sunday, Feb. 26 at Dallas, 12:30 p.m. Win
Tuesday, Feb. 28 vs. Arizona, 7 p.m. Win

March
Thursday, Mar. 2 vs. N.Y. Rangers, 7 p.m. Ot loss
Saturday, Mar. 4 vs. New Jersey, 7 p.m. Win
Monday, Mar. 6 at Ottawa, 7:30 p.m. Win
Wednesday, Mar. 8 vs. Detroit, 8 p.m. Loss
Saturday, Mar. 11 vs. Philadelphia, 1 p.m. Win
Monday, Mar. 13 at Vancouver, 10 p.m. Win
Wednesday, Mar. 15 at Calgary, 9 p.m. Win
Thursday, Mar. 16 at Edmonton, 9 p.m. Win
Monday, Mar. 20 at Toronto, 7:30 p.m. Loss
Tuesday, Mar. 21 vs. Ottawa, 7 p.m. Loss
Thursday, Mar. 23 vs. Tampa Bay, 7 p.m. Loss
Saturday, Mar. 25 at N.Y. Islanders, 7 p.m. Win
Tuesday, Mar. 28 vs. Nashville, 7 p.m. Win
Thursday, Mar 30 vs. Dallas, 7 p.m. Loss

April
Saturday, Apr. 1 vs. Florida, 1 p.m. Ot loss
Sunday, Apr. 2 at Chicago, 12:30 a.m. Win
Tuesday, Apr. 4 vs. Tampa Bay, 7 p.m. Loss
Thursday, Apr. 6 vs. Ottawa, 7 p.m. Win
Saturday, Apr. 8 vs. Washington, 3 p.m. Win


By my calculations that puts them at 93 points (I may have miscounted, curse the small txt window on mobile) which means they'll either just make it or just miss again, strongly depends on how Toronto and Ottawa do (and philly to a degree) do down the stretch. We can't really afford to lose any games to Toronto or Ottawa but I think it'll be a dog fight and they'll take some and lose some in their remaining games against Boston.

I think julien is an excellent head coach that may also have run out his clock here and would do really well with a new club, or the roster just isn't good enough yet but they're not bad enough (or lack enough pride) to get a top pick either personally I'd see how julien does for one more year. The roster Sweeney has put together has left a lot to be desired and he's left the team without a good back up - I wouldn't put it all on Claude. I'm not overly found or claude'/ assistants

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Have to include Mike Babcock in Detroit as well and Quenneville in Chicago seems certain to meet that benchmark.

Babcock wasn't there for ten years, was he?

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

Babcock wasn't there for ten years, was he?

Exactly 10 years. From 2005-06 through 2014-15.

 

[PlayMakers]

Wow. So about 90% of the people here think Julien is an outstanding coach. Very good to Great. I didn't think you could get 90% of people to agree on anything.

And only 8% think he's bad? Amazing. Thread after thread about Julien. Every time the team loses a game 10 new pages... Talk about the unsilent minority.

 

[EverettMike]

Wow. So about 90% of the people here think Julien is an outstanding coach. Very good to Great. I didn't think you could get 90% of people to agree on anything.

And only 8% think he's bad? Amazing. Thread after thread about Julien. Every time the team loses a game 10 new pages... Talk about the unsilent minority.

I bet if we did a poll just asking if they should keep him or fire him right now the results would be closer to 50/50 though. I think many people probably think he is a good coach, but it's time to make a change.

Me? I'd just keep him til the end of the season at this point and then evaluate.

 

[LouJersey]

Wow. So about 90% of the people here think Julien is an outstanding coach. Very good to Great. I didn't think you could get 90% of people to agree on anything.

And only 8% think he's bad? Amazing. Thread after thread about Julien. Every time the team loses a game 10 new pages... Talk about the unsilent minority.

He is a great coach and I voted for that. It's also time for the Bruins to move on. That wasn't an option.

 

[Mpasta]

Pure curiosity. Who was the last coach to have success with the same organization after 10 years?

I believe the last time a coach won a Cup after being the coach for 10 years was around 1983.

If that's correct, the coach was Al Arbour for the Islanders.

Mike Bossy isn't walking through that door.

 

[Hamilton Brian]

Wow. So about 90% of the people here think Julien is an outstanding coach. Very good to Great. I didn't think you could get 90% of people to agree on anything.

And only 8% think he's bad? Amazing. Thread after thread about Julien. Every time the team loses a game 10 new pages... Talk about the unsilent minority.

How did since76 vote 10 times?

 

[GordonHowe]

Excellent coach

Ditto.

Look at the record.

"You don't know what you've got/You don't know what ya got

Till its gone"

-JJ (No, the other JJ)

 

[toasterjam]

oops voted average...thought we were just looking at his current or recent performances..which have been average last few seasons.

In terms of overall time with the Bruins...easily a legendary coach. I will always love Clode.

 

[Spanky185]

Voted dislike, but that's because it's the only one that includes change. Look he's a great coach, but he's no longer the right coach for this team. For a comparative example: Tom Coughlin. He had 2 championships with NY but it was obvious that his time was over in NY.

 

[nmbr_24]

I think he is the best coach the team has had since I have been watching, I liked Burns but he kind of seemed to burn out the team. I liked Sutter too. I liked O'Reilly and Milbury but they kind of just "let them play". I have been watching since 1969 and Julien is the best, he puts more effort in than anyone I can remember.