How much rope does DJ Smith have? [UPDATE: None]

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Masterplan

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IMO, he's got 8 games. If he's not got the Sens in a playoff spot on Nov. 1 you need to let him go. I don't care if the team is playing well or showing improvement, this is the year we can't come out slow and catch up later. Win now or else.
He's got three games IMO. Anything less then 4 points and it's off with his head.
 

Beech

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To Dec 1

18 games on the schedule
9 against last year's playoff teams, 9 against non-playoff
3 are against last years' top 10
7 are against mid table teams 11-20
8 are against teams 22-30
13 home
5 away

Soft(ish) schedule.

The teams needs to be at 22-23 points. (the bulk of the 2022/2023 playoff teams were at 22 points or more by game 18)

6 so far, 5 games played.
Leaving them needing 16-17 from 12 games. (that is roughly 8-3-1 or 8-4 or possibly 7-3-2 or 7-2-3.. that is serious success)

DJ's rope is 12 games long and 16-17 points wide. keep score
 

Golden_Jet

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To Dec 1

18 games on the schedule
9 against last year's playoff teams, 9 against non-playoff
3 are against last years' top 10
7 are against mid table teams 11-20
8 are against teams 22-30
13 home
5 away

Soft(ish) schedule.

The teams needs to be at 22-23 points. (the bulk of the 2022/2023 playoff teams were at 22 points or more by game 18)

6 so far, 5 games played.
Leaving them needing 16-17 from 12 games. (that is roughly 8-3-1 or 8-4 or possibly 7-3-2 or 7-2-3.. that is serious success)

DJ's rope is 12 games long and 16-17 points wide. keep score
That’s a 100-105 point pace, doesn’t require that to get in.
 

Beech

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That’s a 100-105 point pace, doesn’t require that to get in.
no.. the softish schedule catches up.

teams with easy front schedule (last year's low finishers), play a harder middle section and their point total drops a tad.

18 first games, hopefully 22-23 points
18 2nd stretch is against better opponents, hopefully 20-21
18 3rd stretch is against really hard opponents , hopefully 18-19 points
18 game 4th stretch, moderate, hopefully 20-21
10 game end is unknown as that governs how hard you play and so on.. so anywhere from 10-14 points

total 90-98 points.. again depends on where you are at game 72.

if at 90-93 you are out
94-96 in as a 7/8
97-98 in as a 4/5 (or 2/3 in your division)


this is why, it is critical to bank points in the first 18-22 games , if you were a low finishing team last year.
 
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OD99

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no.. the softish schedule catches up.

teams with easy front schedule (last year's low finishers), play a harder middle section and their point total drops a tad.

18 first games, hopefully 22-23 points
18 2nd stretch is against better opponents, hopefully 20-21
18 3rd stretch is against really hard opponents , hopefully 18-19 points
18 game 4th stretch, moderate, hopefully 20-21
10 game end is unknown as that governs how hard you play and so on.. so anywhere from 10-14 points

total 90-98 points.. again depends on where you are at game 72.

if at 90-93 you are out
94-96 in as a 7/8
97-98 in as a 4/5 (or 2/3 in your division)


this is why, it is critical to bank points in the first 18-22 games , if you were a low finishing team last year.
This makes sense.

We may continue to gel, specifically on the blueline, and we have a history of playing better as the season goes on under DJ so the drop-off may not be as bad as it may appear.

We do have a soft schedule though and at minimum need to beat the teams we are expected to beat while holding our own against playoff teams.
 

Ghost of Jody Hull

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I said he’d have to go 6-4 in the first 10. I’m sticking to that. It’s not even a high expectation. It’s thoroughly average. Starting at .500 or worse after being handed a soft, home schedule would be brutal, but probably expected.
 
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Xspyrit

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Can we just move on from the DJ Dorion era please?

I wish it would have worked, it simply doesn’t. Any additional minute just hurts our chance to turn things around and make the long and painful rebuild worthy…

And yeah before I’m quoted on this, it’s not based on just the last 2 games. Hard to be faithful with all that happened on and off the ice since 2020-21
 

Mark Stones Spleen

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Can we just move on from the DJ Dorion era please?

I wish it would have worked, it simply doesn’t. Any additional minute just hurts our chance to turn things around and make the long and painful rebuild worthy…

And yeah before I’m quoted on this, it’s not based on just the last 2 games. Hard to be faithful with all that happened on and off the ice since 2020-21
Dude, there's like 3 people here that will use the first couple games as a reason to keep him, but those same guys would be saying the same shit even if we were winless right now.
 
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