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ACC1224 said:
You think the coach tells each player when to go every time they jump on the ice?
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Only if it's different than the obvious substitution. So, as you said it would be on the player. Also remember it's often the changing player's fault for abandoning the substitution at the last moment or touching the puck after his sub is already on the ice.
 
justashadowof said:
Only if it's different than the obvious substitution. So, as you said it would be on the player. Also remember it's usually the changing player's fault for abandoning the substitution at the last moment or touching the puck after his sub is already on the ice.
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Yep, could be player coming on or going off. Sometimes it's even on a teammate passing it to the bench at the wrong time, Ottawa did that the other night.
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
I don't think it last long at all, especially if it means Lafferty on the 2nd line, that's just stupid.

But even if it doesn't mean Lafferty on the 2nd line It's been tried It's failed every time.

"he did it in the AHL.

Yes he did 7 years ago, it hasn't worked since.

I don't think it lasts very long.

I think Nylander will end up back in the top 6 on the wing very quickly
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1-Leafs fan are upset about what kind of result that will bring in regular season but whats really matter is when playoff will start

-Florida did the same and cousins was on top line and look at the result...
-Chicago was playing with toews kane and sharp on 3 different line playing with player like bickel, shaw and whatever in their top 6
-Pittsburgh crosby malkin and kessel playing with sheary in their top 6


2- the only time leafs tried nylander at center was result of multiple injury... they never try it on daily basis. To see what that can give, you need to give those player to have a real chance to adapt and see result... you will not see this in 1-2 pre season week


3- Put all the eggs on the same basket, it whats leafs did last 7 year and look how that wqs working so well...

Leafs fan wanted to see some change, leafs making it but now asking to came back exactly to whats leafs was doing and din't worked by the past...
 
I'd say indefinitely.
Nylander is being groomed as the leafs next long-term 2nd line center solution once Tavares is gone (*as early as next july 1st following his final signing bonus payment) at which point, Tavares is only owed like 700k in actual money for his final season... so anything short of a SCF's appearance this upcoming season and Tavares may be good as gone... it would be financially prudent for both the Leafs and Tavares to mutually agree to contract termination at that point, especially if another failed season occurs with Tavares "leading the charge"
 
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AustonMarner said:
I'd say indefinitely.
Nylander is being groomed as the leafs next long-term 2nd line center solution once Tavares is gone (*as early as next july 1st following his final signing bonus payment) at which point, Tavares is only owed like 700k in actual money for his final season... so anything short of a SCF's appearance this upcoming season and Tavares may be good as gone... it would be financially prudent for both the Leafs and Tavares to mutually agree to contract termination at that point, especially if another failed season occurs with Tavares "leading the charge"
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The problem with that is Nylander doesn't have a contract for next year so the idea that he's being groomed as the long term #2 center is objectively wrong because he needs an extension, you can't groom somebody for position if you don't know they will be around.
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
The problem with that is Nylander doesn't have a contract for next year so the idea that he's being groomed as the long term #2 center is objectively wrong because he needs an extension, you can't groom somebody for position if you don't know they will be around.
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Conversely, why play a career RW (but a C at every other level) at C if they didn't have a fairly good idea he will be back long term?

Cuts both ways.
 
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LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
The problem with that is Nylander doesn't have a contract for next year so the idea that he's being groomed as the long term #2 center is objectively wrong because he needs an extension, you can't groom somebody for position if you don't know they will be around.
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I disagree completely... but you definitely can't groom someone for a position if you know for sure they won't be around...
Furthermore, if Nylander can play center better than Tavares (I think he can) then the Leafs would feel more comfortable paying him his asking price in contract demands and asking Tavares to walk... that's the allocated money you can hopefully spend on RD upgraded...
 
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I think this should have been done awhile ago. JT hasn't been the answer at 2C for awhile now. Hopefully this lasts until June.
 
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LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
The problem with that is Nylander doesn't have a contract for next year so the idea that he's being groomed as the long term #2 center is objectively wrong because he needs an extension, you can't groom somebody for position if you don't know they will be around.
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The problem with that is that just because Nylander doesn't have a contract for next year doesn't mean that management isn't confident that he'll be around. Perhaps grooming him for centre is part of their strategy to make sure he re-signs.
 
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I don't see why he's a centre? We have the best 1-2 punch on the right wing and you want to make him a centre?
 
Jeffrey Pedler said:
I don't see why he's a centre? We have the best 1-2 punch on the right wing and you want to make him a centre?
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Which position is more important? Is it better to have a great 1-2 punch at centre or on the wing?

To an extent he's wasted on the wing, especially if we don't have anyone better than Tavares to centre him. Better to have him as 2C and drop JT to 3C.
 
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Jamason said:
Which position is more important? Is it better to have a great 1-2 punch at centre or on the wing?

To an extent he's wasted on the wing, especially if we don't have anyone better than Tavares to centre him. Better to have him as 2C and drop JT to 3C.
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It would be bad roster management to have your 11 million dollar centre as your #3. The third line centre is perfect for Domi.
 
Jeffrey Pedler said:
It would be bad roster management to have your 11 million dollar centre as your #3. The third line centre is perfect for Domi.
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I think you're looking at it backwards.

It's not so much bad management playing someone who's paid $11M at 3C, as it is bad management paying $11M to someone who should be playing 3C.

For hockey, the amount paid is less important than the ability. If he's best suited to 3C, play him at 3C.

Separate from the actual game is the budget. Even playing at 1C the first year, he was expected to be at best the 2C for the rest of his contract, and not likely to be more than 3C the last couple. There's no way he should have been given that much for that long, and especially not with a full NMC. That was an absolutely terrible signing by Dubas.
 
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