John Price
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how is hunting considered a sport
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Juzmo
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Our ancestors hunted and people in poor and rural areas hunt because it was/is necessary for them to sustain their well-being, just like for some animals that have no other options.
With the perfectly good alternatives that we have the truth is there’s no need to hunt and kill those animals for food. It will unnecessarily eliminate the capacity for well-being in the future of the animals living in nature as free agents just like killing them for sport.
An action like hunting doesn’t become humane even when there is an option that could be considered even less humane, such as the animal agriculture industry. The animal lives a better quality of life, and the method of killing may be less inhumane, but they don’t remove the fact that the animal will still have interests in avoiding pain and suffering, and in continued existence.
Just like the act of killing wouldn't become justifiable even if one would do another thing that could possibly have positive impacts on others. And why not try to have the positive impact and remove the killing part? And if we were sincere in wanting to solve these problems out of genuine concern for the animal populations themselves surely we'd be finding other solutions (like for example with overpopulation problem things like capture, sterilize and release) before just shooting them. Or better we'd work toward restoring a balance that doesn't need our intervention. Now the whole preserving/conserving things is it’s just to ensure future hunting opportunities.
And when hearing these preserving/conserving arguments for hunting from people who in addition also unnecessarily in some form supports animal agriculture, and the excessively large issues it creates for the natural ecological balance (while being leading cause of species extinction) it’s even less easy to view it as a sincere argument.
edit. not specifically talking about the whole african hunting thing that has been discussed about
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tacogeoff
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Hunting is a great sport to be involved in. You learn a lot of outdoors and basic life/survival skills when you are out in the field/forest doing a few overnighters and battling the elements and environment. Just don't forget your gps ha....unless your wealthy and do the whole guide/lodge thing.
Only hunt I hate in North America that comes to mind are the mountain lion/cougar hunts. terrible way to hunt. use a pack of dogs to chase a cat up the tree and then you catch up to it 30mins later and shoot it out of a tree. such ******** people are allowed to do so. there is no sport/purpose in that.
feel the same way about hunting cats and endangered species in Africa...at least Springbok and other variations of Antelopes are plentiful and can be eaten.
Only hunt I hate in North America that comes to mind are the mountain lion/cougar hunts. terrible way to hunt. use a pack of dogs to chase a cat up the tree and then you catch up to it 30mins later and shoot it out of a tree. such ******** people are allowed to do so. there is no sport/purpose in that.
feel the same way about hunting cats and endangered species in Africa...at least Springbok and other variations of Antelopes are plentiful and can be eaten.
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Hunting any animal with a high powered rifle that doesn't know it's being hunted doesn't seem like a sport.
I respect people that hunt for food but some rookie hunter cause these animals to suffer more.
I respect people that hunt for food but some rookie hunter cause these animals to suffer more.
tacogeoff
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speed "race" walking doesn't seem like a sport, but yet it is labeled as such.
A majority of wild animals are always being stalked, hunted, killed and eaten by predators, a lot of the times even eaten while they are alive and in shock.
As long as the hunter is ethical in his ways and has the legal right or permit to take the animal for food than I don't personally have an issue.
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Wow. How do you propose to "capture, sterilize and release" white tail deer that number in the millions in a country as vast as Canada and who exactly would pay for it? The MNR? They'd actually lose a ton of funds by the simple fact no hunting licences are being purchased. You'd have to capture countless deer every single year seeing as how fast deer mature to ensure the population would be under control, a single buck will mate with several doe.....this is actually one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life. You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and it shows. Maybe actually read up on the animals you want to save before trying to suggest ludicrous ideas on how to save them all and control populations.
Many people enjoy eating wild game. It brings in tons of money, is a renewable resource (the MNR closely monitors population levels of animals and fish and tags/licences/limits/seasons are changed appropriately) and is here to stay.
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Yeah I've just read some stuff that has made me skeptical on certain things and that hunting can sometimes be counterproductive and/or ineffective to some species.
- Non-lethal methods, at least in some situations, are more effective than lethal ones.
- (Another paper that talks generally about this topic)
- Population problems often arise as a direct result of human intervention causes ecological disruption, in particular, in the clearing of land for animal agriculture
- ...which directly causes far more significant environmental problems than invasive species
- In some other situations, it's the hunters who intentionally cause the population problems, giving them an excuse to hunt (stopping hunting would disincentive this practice).
- Population control efforts are frequently conducted to benefit economic interests (in particular, animal farmers) and not to benefit the environment, which are largely effected by different species.
And that:
- Hunters — especially hunters of deer — tend to focus on the showy males. One male can impregnate many females, and killing a male simply allows another (likely of lesser genetic quality) to step in and breed the females.
- Removing males during the time of rut (deer hunting season!) removes those males from competition for food and makes it more likely that does and possibly immature deer survive through the winter which can actually have a counterproductive effect on population.
- It's been observed that twin births occur considerably more frequently when a deer population is hunted, so this is also a factor that could lead to a counterproductive effect from hunting.
- Does in hunted deer populations tend to give birth to more males to compensate for hunting pressure.
- Does keep going into heat for a long time, until they're bred. Even in areas with a lot of hunting pressure, the majority of does end up bred.
References:
http://news.ufl.edu/archive/2000/11/uf-research-does-make-up-for-losses-of-hunted-bucks.html
https://web.archive.org/web/2014012...tion-control-why-there-are-so-many-deer-today
https://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/hunt/planning/rut_whitetailed_deer/
Though I'm not too familiar with the Canadian system itself so whatever people enjoy while making money, apologies.
Ps. Thanks for the constructive criticism.
John Price
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I hope all these ****ing animal protestors are happy now that they killed the circus. How can you end the circus?
darko
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yes
I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, based on how many evil people are on this earth even if you are being sarcastic I am sure there is enough people who are getting that "thrill"
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Hunting with an underpowered rifle is more unethical and would likely lead to the animal suffering more.
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an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
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