How In The World Is Tim Thomas Not In The HHOF?

[NVious]

2 Vezinas
1 cup
1 Smythe
Highest career playoff save percentage average all time
4th highest single playoff save percentage all time

You have goalies like Luongo who won nothing and are in, Vachon who only has 1 Vezina, some pretty mediocre wingers/center/D who don't even sniff Thomas's peak, even his story of how much he overcame is amazing. He needs to be in the HHOF

 

[BattleLevel]

Probably has to do with a relatively short career and never really being a workhorse of a starter. The Hall is also weird about letting in goalies. I’m sure he gets in eventually.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

The end of his career and how it unfolded really hurt his chances, I think.

When he played politics and refused to go to the White House with his teammates. He was still good for 1 more year after when Bos lost in the 1st round to WSH.

But after that he refused to play on the last year of his contract and was suspended, got traded to the Islanders and didn't report, remain suspended. He was not an NHL Starter after that with DAL/FLA and was pretty much done.

If he had just retired after 2011/2012, could be a different story.

 

[Mr Nogatco]

Who has that pic saved from the ESPN Knows Hockey thread

 

[DJN21]

Jim Carey should be in too.....oh wait, you need longevity? nvm

 

[NVious]

Jim Carey should be in too.....oh wait, you need longevity? nvm

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0 smythe

Same thing lol

I'd rather 10 years of Thomas than 20 years of Vachon/Luongo

 

[castle]

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Same thing lol

I'd rather 10 years of Thomas than 20 years of Vachon/Luongo

The Bruins would have liked 10 years of Thomas too. If he had 10 good years he might have gotten in the hall. As it is, he had half that.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Short career and possibly something related to his off ice ideas.

 

[895]

Did Tim Thomas pioneer not going to the WH for political reasons? Everyone does it nowadays but it was shocking at the time. Pretty much everyone said he was being a big baby and that the visit was apolitical .

 

[Romang67]

The Bruins would have liked 10 years of Thomas too. If he had 10 good years he might have gotten in the hall. As it is, he had half that.

Half is being generous. I'd make the case that Thomas had 4 starter quality seasons. Three of those quality seasons were great. Two of those great seasons were elite. One was one of the best years of goaltending start to finish we've seen.

What do you make with a goaltender who was great for 3 years and okay for one?

 

[Coffee]

Now check

 

[voyageur]

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Same thing lol

I'd rather 10 years of Thomas than 20 years of Vachon/Luongo

You have to count those gold medals too when you are getting inducted in the HOCKEY Hall of Fame. Luongo has his. Carey Price has his. And a Vezina, and he could have won a Cup if it weren't for Chris Kreider. Colie Campbell should always have his name engraved on the Bruins 2011 Cup victory.

 

[Romang67]

You have to count those gold medals too when you are getting inducted in the HOCKEY Hall of Fame. Luongo has his. Carey Price has his. And a Vezina, and he would have won a Cup if it weren't for Chris Kreider. Colie Campbell should always have his name on the Bruins 2011 Cup victory.

Yeah, Tim Thomas's complete lack of any international accolades also doesn't help his case. He played in a few WC games, but was only the starter once, and that was when he was on his way to his final retirement. He played one game in the Olympics, where he allowed 5 goals.

Tim Thomas's noteworthy accomplishments is literally only his peak in the NHL in 07/08-2010/11. And, I guess, his lockout season with Jokerit in Finland.

 

[Summer Rose]

Half is being generous. I'd make the case that Thomas had 4 starter quality seasons. Three of those quality seasons were great. Two of those great seasons were elite. One was one of the best years of goaltending start to finish we've seen.

What do you make with a goaltender who was great for 3 years and okay for one?

His 2011 playoff run is also the second-best playoff run by a goaltender I've ever personally witnessed. In case you're wondering what #1 is, it's Jean-Sébastien Giguère in 2003.

 

[WarriorofTime]

He has controversial politics

 

[PaulD]

Good question..Did more in a short career than most do in a long one.

 

[Summer Rose]

You have to count those gold medals too when you are getting inducted in the HOCKEY Hall of Fame. Luongo has his. Carey Price has his. And a Vezina, and he could have won a Cup if it weren't for Chris Kreider. Colie Campbell should always have his name engraved on the Bruins 2011 Cup victory.

If it is indeed the "Hockey Hall of Fame" and not the "NHL Hall of Fame," which I think it should be, I think it's stupid that Vladislav Tretiak isn't in it.

 

[Romang67]

I think lack of longevity will keep Braden Holtby out of the Hall too, and their NHL careers are more similar than most people realize.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

If it is indeed the "Hockey Hall of Fame" and not the "NHL Hall of Fame," which I think it should be, I think it's stupid that Vladislav Tretiak isn't in it.

...wasn't Tretiak inducted in '89??...

 

[Sadekuuro]

Mr. Farkas, the floor is yours

 

[Summer Rose]

...wasn't Tretiak inducted in '89??...

............................ I am a complete moron sometimes...

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

............................ I am a complete moron sometimes...

...we all have those moments, amigo...and they multiply exponentionally with age...

 

[Realm]

If it is indeed the "Hockey Hall of Fame" and not the "NHL Hall of Fame," which I think it should be, I think it's stupid that Vladislav Tretiak isn't in it.

Well, He IS in it.

 

[Summer Rose]

Well, He IS in it.

Are you kidding me? Clearly Vladislav Tretiak isn't in in the HHOF. Are you blind? I'm going to double down when presented with evidence to the contrary. I don't have time for your "facts" and quite frankly I don't care either.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

His career was too short and he's too controversial a figure.

How isn't Mogilny in? It's an injustice to live in a world where Kevin Lowe makes it in before Mogs.