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How good can Sean Day become?

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Defensive play can be improved to a degree. A guy like that can skate like him has a good head start. He can be coached to improve his positioning, spacing, zone-play, how to use his stick and play the body, leverage, etc. Improve this and you can be adequate.

However, a lot of defensive play relies on your mindset and hockey IQ. This separates adequate from the really good defensive players.

You have to have that mindset of wanting to not let that other guy beat you. You have to often make the safe play. You have to worry about preventing a goal first and not just think that you can take off and score.

Defense requires a lot of thinking on the ice. This part tends to be more innate in my opinion, but can improve a bit with experience and you're ability to learn. You have to constantly be aware of the situation. Who is on the ice? Do I commit here? Where is my partner? Do I rotate here? Is someone covering for me if I move up? Am I screening the goalie. How do I play this two on one? Is anyone sneaking behind me? Do I go up the boards or down the middle?
 
What Door said:
Honestly, as much as I hope that Day pans out and becomes a Top-4 guy, I get the feeling he'll ultimately become the same kind of "all the tools but no toolbox" type player that John Moore is. Now, Moore was a first rounder, whereas Day was a third rounder, so finding a NHL player with that pick is still a victory in my book.

I just think his brain is what ultimately holds him back. I'm not trying to rag on the kid, but he just doesn't seem very intelligent in interviews. Same feeling I get from Hayes. On the other hand, guys like Vesey and Miller, from their interviews, strike me as young guys who have above average intelligence, and I just tend to think intelligent players have a naturally higher ceiling, physical gifts being equal (they aren't, but you know what I mean).
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I think we are on a pretty slippery slope when it comes to talking about the intelligence level of a particular player. Surely, you do not have to be "book smart" to be an elite hockey player although native intelligence is always an asset. I'm sure that they are many HOFers and all-star caliber players who were not "intelligent" in the way that you suggest.

Certainly "book smarts" also does not translate to hockey success although, again, it is always an asset. Anecdotally, Chris Kreider is the most intelligent player on the Rangers, speaks multiple languages, etc. Yet isn't a common complaint that he "thinks to much," and gets lost in his own head? Don't we want him to just "play" and not think? Yet there are also "book smart" players who also have high hockey IQs.

Didn't Yogi Berra once say that you can't think and hit at the same time?

I also would not put to much stock in an interview. I well recall an interview with Dave Maloney when he was a teenager and playing for the Rangers back in the mid-1970s. He was completely tongue-tied and did not come across well. And, yet look what he became, both on and off the ice.

So the jury is out on Day. But I'd hesitate to project his career on the basis of an interview or some other half-repeated story. I have not idea what he can become and neither does anyone else.
 
DudMan28 said:
Where will he be playing this year? CHL or AHL?
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The plan is probably AHL, but if the Rangers don't think he's ready for it, he'll go back to the CHL. It will depend on how he looks in camp, I would guess.
 
GregSirico said:
If we could find a taker for Staal, I'd love to see him get a shot at making the team and playing this year.
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It says in the article that he has been playing the right side and it is now his preferred position, so Staal shouldn't be blocking him. He has a shot at making the team. Probably not a good one, but a chance.
 
One more thing on Sean Day. Prior to the trade to Windsor, Day played with Missisauga. He was partnered with Vegas prospect Nick Hauge there. He was talked about often in the draft thread. Hague from a player comparision reminds me of Ryan Graves. Big shot, mean streak, not a great skater but skates well enough for a big man.

I like the idea of Day and Graves coming up in the same system. Would like to see the two of them get a shot to play together and see if they can create chemistry.
 
Graves94 said:
I've seen Day play quite a few times, very offensively gifted, although he doesn't have a bog shot, like say Graves does, but man can he skate and move the puck, WOW!
However, the bolded will decide his future in the NHL, If he even improves his defense slightly, he'll probably be a second pairing guy!
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More specifically it's not even about making the correct reads, that I think he's able to do, it's about making these reads at NHL level speed.
 
alkurtz said:
I think we are on a pretty slippery slope when it comes to talking about the intelligence level of a particular player. Surely, you do not have to be "book smart" to be an elite hockey player although native intelligence is always an asset. I'm sure that they are many HOFers and all-star caliber players who were not "intelligent" in the way that you suggest.

Certainly "book smarts" also does not translate to hockey success although, again, it is always an asset. Anecdotally, Chris Kreider is the most intelligent player on the Rangers, speaks multiple languages, etc. Yet isn't a common complaint that he "thinks to much," and gets lost in his own head? Don't we want him to just "play" and not think? Yet there are also "book smart" players who also have high hockey IQs.

Didn't Yogi Berra once say that you can't think and hit at the same time?

I also would not put to much stock in an interview. I well recall an interview with Dave Maloney when he was a teenager and playing for the Rangers back in the mid-1970s. He was completely tongue-tied and did not come across well. And, yet look what he became, both on and off the ice.

So the jury is out on Day. But I'd hesitate to project his career on the basis of an interview or some other half-repeated story. I have not idea what he can become and neither does anyone else.
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I don't want to get too far into the weeds here. My feeling on the subject is completely anecdotal, and I openly admit that. However, intelligence has nothing to do with "book smarts." There are many intelligent people I know that were never formally schooled past high school, yet still have incredible intuition and an ability to think critically. That's something you learn within five minutes of talking to someone.

Either way, I know it may be unfair to the kid, and I hope I'm completely wrong, but he doesn't come off as very intelligent from what I've seen of him.
 
Beacon said:
The single most overrated prospect we have. By a wide margin.
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3rd rounder. Very high upside with a slight chance of it ever being realized at the NHL level.

Rangers were pretty aware of what they were doing taking him in the 3rd.

Right now, Day would probably be Eric Gellinas without an elite slapshot if you inserted him into an NHL lineup.
 
All or nothing with this kid. As many of you have eluded to, if he puts it together and gets himself straightened out he will be an absolute stud, 1st pairing defender. Personally think he blows John Moore out of the water if this happens. Classic boom or bust!
 
GregSirico said:
If we could find a taker for Staal, I'd love to see him get a shot at making the team and playing this year.
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Assuming Klein retires, the Rangers have Deangelo and Holden on the roster who could play the right side (and Holden shouldnt be anywhere near there).

Point being, regardless of Staal's status, I think Day and a bunch of other D prospects will get every chance possible to make the team.
 
I actually think the "boom or bust!" sentiment and the idea that "he has so much talent he's just not hockey smart enough to use it!" could really hurt his chances at a NHL career...

I would not be surprised in the least to see him end up being a pretty solid kind of 2nd/3rd pair tweener who ends up putting up good analytics and can solidify a 3rd pair or play a good 2nd pair with the right partner, but since everyone always talks about him like he has to be this great player or nothing then he's always looked at as a failure and ends up bouncing around the league a bit.

I think you have to allow that sometimes guys can be solid players and valuable even if they seem like they have unfulfilled potential.
 
Eh, bit of a fluff piece from Brooks. I hope the Rangers have set the bar much lower for Day. I'd hate to see the kid fold under unnecessarily high expectations when it's not like the team invested a top-10 pick in him.

Hartford's D could actually be a strong point this year. It's young, but can definitely move the puck. Graves, Pionk, Day, and Pedrie should make up a nice group. I didn't see if Paliotta was qualified or not.
 
bl02 said:
One of the very few players who received exceptional status. Check out the other names. Ekblad, Mcdavid, Tavares.
But like many said already its up to him. He has all the tools.
Probably in terms of Ranger prospects the guy who has the biggest differential between his ceiling and floor. Still happy we took a stab at him in 2016 draft.
Last year seems like he stabilized and had a decent season.
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He is the only player receiving exceptional status to win the Memorial Cup.
 
This fanbase is laughable. one article by brooksie and we have the next gretzky.
 
I'd love to see him spend the next two seasons in junior and set a record no one will ever break:

Longest junior career ever.

Exceptional status + overager.

Jokes aside. He didn't show a whole lot this year outside of his first 10 games.

Let's see what he does at the pro level.

Kid's fitness has always been in question.

This guy was the best 14 year old skater I've ever seen. But I've yet to see anything remotely closely to that in the OHL.

He's got 3 years before you take him seriously..
 
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