How do you fix the Wings?

[Dotter]

Necas isn't worth a top 15 pick? A young top 6 forward about to get paid 6 to 7plus million most certainly is...

Chariot is physical sure...but he hasent and he chooses not to earn his contract...not sure why if he was moved it meant you were giving up 100% on ever having physical dmen

Husso is garbage..he is neither reliable nor a proven #1 NHL goalie

Wallinder is a solid depth prospect

Necas wants out of Carolina because he doesn't want to play a defensively responsible game. He is not a fit in Detroit. I can see Bruins being a good match for him since they can shelter him.

I'm not even sure how Berggren is going to fit on the team since he is weak in the defensive side of the puck.

Is Husso LTIR for 2025/26? He's a good goalie if he gets healthy. Wings are set in goal if he's healthy.

 

[WingsToPick4th]

Necas wants out of Carolina because he doesn't want to play a defensively responsible game. He is not a fit in Detroit. I can see Bruins being a good match for him since they can shelter him.

I'm not even sure how Berggren is going to fit on the team since he is weak in the defensive side of the puck.

Is Husso LTIR for 2025/26? He's a good goalie if he gets healthy. Wings are set in goal if he's healthy.

This is Hussos final year on his contract he isn’t signed for 25/26

 

[lilidk]

Rasmussen is better than Veleno. Full stop. He was very effective in a shutdown role. Veleno was getting caved at 5v5 even when matched against lower lines. He was just about useless from mid February until the end of the season.

Veleno has value as a trade chip due to his age and contract status but it's not much. He'd be useful in pairing with Holl if we need to trade that contract.

Just give me late first for Veleno

 

[Dotter]

This is Hussos final year on his contract he isn’t signed for 25/26

I'm messed up. I mean this upcoming season.

 

[dalem177]

I don't want to start another thread, so I will use this tired one to offer:

Fix the Wings by fixing the NHL:
1) nix the blackouts - they're a holdover from the days of stone knives and bearskins.
2) do "mini-season" or "mini-playoffs" capsules somewhere not on Youtube - I dunno, maybe on ESPN+, which I'm already paying for but lies dormant for 5 months... Sure, I can (and probably will) fire up the 2002/2008 Cup runs tonight on the toobs with a nice cigar and a drink, but... what if a professional editing crew got great footage and packaged it for me?
3) mind-control Kane and Perron so they both re-sign with minimal cap hits. I like those guys. Kane for his "ohmygod I didn't know he was that good" flare and Perron for his "This ain't that kind of movie, kid" steadiness. And willingness to commit felonious assault at the right time.

 

[Mort Divine]

Perron so they both re-sign

fixing the Wings means letting go of his shit penalty taking, skating in molasses ass

 

[dalem177]

fixing the Wings means letting go of his shit penalty taking, skating in molasses ass

Perhaps. I would prefer to keep him.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Necas wants out of Carolina because he doesn't want to play a defensively responsible game. He is not a fit in Detroit. I can see Bruins being a good match for him since they can shelter him.

I'm not even sure how Berggren is going to fit on the team since he is weak in the defensive side of the puck.

Is Husso LTIR for 2025/26? He's a good goalie if he gets healthy. Wings are set in goal if he's healthy.

Part of being good is being reliable in all capacities.. Husso is not...time to move on from him

 

[lilidk]

Is Kakko bust or NY has no idea how to develop? Should we trade for him

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Is Kakko bust or NY has no idea how to develop? Should we trade for him

I would trade for him because it should be cheap. As far as him being a bust it looks like yes more than no...

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Part of being good is being reliable in all capacities.. Husso is not...time to move on from him

Honestly I have to wonder about the likelihood of him continuing in the NHL. It's not a great sign that he's already had a couple returns from injury that barely lasted a game before he reinjured himself.

 

[Winger98]

I would trade for him because it should be cheap. As far as him being a bust it looks like yes more than no...

throw him into the Trouba deal

 

[norrisnick]

I really don't want to be in a situation where have a 32yo Trouba, Michigan boy and all, just came off a $8M/yr contract and wants an extension to retire at home.

 

[Winger98]

I really don't want to be in a situation where have a 32yo Trouba, Michigan boy and all, just came off a $8M/yr contract and wants an extension to retire at home.

I don't know. I think the length is a positive. It doesn't rope us into a bunch of years we might not want, and it gives us the opportunity to negotiate a smaller deal down the road. Or just walk away. Locking into a 30 yr old Trouba for two years is more appealing than the six or seven years a UFA option this summer might walk away with.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Is Kakko bust or NY has no idea how to develop? Should we trade for him

He's Krappo Kakko. Total bust like Bustina.

 

[norrisnick]

I don't know. I think the length is a positive. It doesn't rope us into a bunch of years we might not want, and it gives us the opportunity to negotiate a smaller deal down the road. Or just walk away. Locking into a 30 yr old Trouba for two years is more appealing than the six or seven years a UFA option this summer might walk away with.

I'd take Pesce or Roy 10 times out of 10 over Trouba.

It all depends on how much the Rags eat or ship along with him. KK ain't it. Chytil maybe.

 

[Winger98]

I'd take Pesce or Roy 10 times out of 10 over Trouba.

It all depends on how much the Rags eat or ship along with him. KK ain't it. Chytil maybe.

I'd hope to get him at around $6m. I'm wondering if we could dump someone back on them to boot. Maybe their lack of scoring in the playoffs will have them liking Fabbri.

 

[dalem177]

I really don't want to be in a situation where have a 32yo Trouba, Michigan boy and all, just came off a $8M/yr contract and wants an extension to retire at home.

I'm for it if he does his Superman act every game.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I'd take Pesce or Roy 10 times out of 10 over Trouba.

It all depends on how much the Rags eat or ship along with him. KK ain't it. Chytil maybe.

No to Chytil. Too many concussions. Sykora maybe?

Would love to get Perreault in the deal.

 

[DoMakc]

Red Wings defensemen not called Seider and Walman do not lack physicality, they lack skating abilty and have questionable decision making. Why bringing in something that they don‘t need with same drawbacks they already have in abundance. If you want somebody local sign Roy - he is much better defensemen now and projects to be better going forward

 

[Ezekial]

I'd rather take an elbow to the head than have Trouba on our team. f*** that piece of shit. Not a good player, paid way too much, and dirty scum.

 

[Pavels Dog]

it should at least be able to stop the team from collapsing mentally as much as it did though, if they can't even do that then i'm extremely skeptical of whatever "locker room value" anyone says someone like Perron has

Did they "collapse mentally" or did injuries and PDO regression hit them? I'd argue the resilience and fight they showed down the stretch proves the lockeroom stayed healthy which is part of what that lockeroom value is about. To keep the room believing even through rough stretches - not to completely erase them.

 

[Snuggs]

Did they "collapse mentally" or did injuries and PDO regression hit them? I'd argue the resilience and fight they showed down the stretch proves the lockeroom stayed healthy which is part of what that lockeroom value is about. To keep the room believing even through rough stretches - not to completely erase them.

Any type of collapse isn't a form of resiliency, let's not do mental gymnastics.

The team can lose Perron and add a better winger and be a better team and, imo, be just as fine in the locker-room.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Any type of collapse isn't a form of resiliency, let's not do mental gymnastics.

The team can lose Perron and add a better winger and be a better team and, imo, be just as fine in the locker-room.

That wasn't really what I said. I said they showed resiliency down the stretch.

It's not all about Perron though so I agree the team can lose him. However I'm personally a bigger fan of keeping him for cheap 1 more year than signing Kane to some 7x3 type deal. I think Perron is an exceptional influence on our younger players, and especially someone that both Kasper and Mazur could really learn from.

 

[Shaman464]

That wasn't really what I said. I said they showed resiliency down the stretch.

It's not all about Perron though so I agree the team can lose him. However I'm personally a bigger fan of keeping him for cheap 1 more year than signing Kane to some 7x3 type deal. I think Perron is an exceptional influence on our younger players, and especially someone that both Kasper and Mazur could really learn from.

They were 7-15 in their last 22 games so down the stretch they were garbage. Had they even played .500 hockey they would have been comfortably in a playoff spot in their last 3 games. Being that bad isn’t resilience.