Injury Report: How do YOU fix the Red Wings? 2.0!

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I was waiting for someone to point this out.

It begs the question that if we take a Euro playing in this tournament, is he still a "Hakan" pick if Yzerman and all of the NA scouts watch him? Similarly does a NA pick become a Hakan pick if Hakan is watching him at this tournament?

Remember: pick we like = Hakan pick
Pick we don’t like = Draper pick

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I don't know, that roster kinda looks fire?

That roster looks better than Winnipeg and Washington, and those teams are tops in their conferences respectively.

 

[ElProfessor]

We aren't ever going to be a team that out guns other teams. We simply didn't get the draft luck. We are going to need a team like the Bergeron Bruins, Kopitar Kings, O'Reily Blues. I think this is a really solid 2 way team.

Its a team built out from the back end. Its success would ultimately be determined by if Cossa or Augustine hit because you need the goalie to go with that D. I think that D will be a top 5 in the league and if Cossa or Augustine hit you are looking at a dominant defensive team.

I think a lot of fans have PTSD from our current D of the past 5 years and have forgotten how much a good D can transform a team both offensively and defensively. You give the forward group from last year a good D that can actually transition the puck and I think our scoring issues are a lot less of a concern. We scored like 10 goals all year in transition. We were lucky if we got 2 odd man rushes a game and they were rarely our top line players.

The more I think about it…. There’s just nothing about keeping Larkin and DeBrincat that makes any sense at all.

They both have 3-4 yrs of prime left.

It’s going to take 3-4 yrs for us to get TO our sc-competitive window.

And these guys are going to be overpaid, over-the-hill 3rd liners FOR our sc-competitive window.

Wouldn’t you rather have four 1st Rd picks entering their primes on the team for our SC-window?

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We’d have like $40M in cap space after trading them. It wouldn’t be hard or at all detrimental to get 3-4 solid vets to come here on 3yr overpay contracts and to make the playoffs next season.

 

[ElProfessor]

Can we merge these 3 threads all talking about the exact same thing please

 

[deca guard]

MY UFA STRATEGY :

- ORLOV
- PROVOROV
- JEANNOT

- provorov a lefty but can play right side , this means he n orlov form 2nd pairing
- these signings make pairings :

EDVINSSON - SEIDER
ORLOV - PROVEROV
CHARIOT - JOHANSSON

- not a championship d but this aint a championship roster no matter whose signed . plus orlov wouldnt be real long term , and provorov not giant cap hit . but seider n eddie would be a championship duo ! and aljo brain a perfet mix with chariots physicality
- jeannots needed big time
- this improves team without making giant long term cap issues because i want that cap space for eddie / marco / etc

 

[DanielMarois]

Where's the Yzerman press conference, did he get deported by ICE or something.

 

[ColdToiletSeats]

Where's the Yzerman press conference, did he get deported by ICE or something.

He had a major meltdown when Larkin called him out

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Can we merge these 3 threads all talking about the exact same thing please

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No.

This thread is for armchair GMing.
The other threads are for your tears.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

MY UFA STRATEGY :

- ORLOV
- PROVOROV
- JEANNOT

- provorov a lefty but can play right side , this means he n orlov form 2nd pairing
- these signings make pairings :

EDVINSSON - SEIDER
ORLOV - PROVEROV
CHARIOT - JOHANSSON

- not a championship d but this aint a championship roster no matter whose signed . plus orlov wouldnt be real long term , and provorov not giant cap hit . but seider n eddie would be a championship duo ! and aljo brain a perfet mix with chariots physicality
- jeannots needed big time
- this improves team without making giant long term cap issues because i want that cap space for eddie / marco / etc

I’m not a fan of Provorov. I don’t know enough about Orion to say whether or not I like him.

I do really like Gavrikov. By the numbers he’s a top 30 defenseman in the league when you measure his impact. Not great offensively but defensively? He’s a Ryan McDonaugh. We absolutely need that. I’d be willing to pay 8.5 for that and wouldn’t be shocked if LA signs him for that.

Jeannot is a definite yes for me. We need to get realgud n tuff on the bottom lines. If you’re gonna be dumb you gotta be tough. And so far our bottom 6 is just dumb.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

I’m not a fan of Provorov. I don’t know enough about Orion to say whether or not I like him.

I do really like Gavrikov. By the numbers he’s a top 30 defenseman in the league when you measure his impact. Not great offensively but defensively? He’s a Ryan McDonaugh. We absolutely need that. I’d be willing to pay 8.5 for that and wouldn’t be shocked if LA signs him for that.

Jeannot is a definite yes for me. We need to get realgud n tuff on the bottom lines. If you’re gonna be dumb you gotta be tough. And so far our bottom 6 is just dumb.

given the type of defenseman you like you’d like orlov

 

[WF19]

The more I think about it…. There’s just nothing about keeping Larkin and DeBrincat that makes any sense at all.

They both have 3-4 yrs of prime left.

It’s going to take 3-4 yrs for us to get TO our sc-competitive window.

And these guys are going to be overpaid, over-the-hill 3rd liners FOR our sc-competitive window.

Wouldn’t you rather have four 1st Rd picks entering their primes on the team for our SC-window?

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We’d have like $40M in cap space after trading them. It wouldn’t be hard or at all detrimental to get 3-4 solid vets to come here on 3yr overpay contracts and to make the playoffs next season.

Trade Cat and Larkin and hope 2 firsts pan out and will take 2-3 years to get here? Maybe of it was guaranteed it was McKenna or elite caliber but we could also end up with a Zadina or Rasmussen. I dont know why everyone is calling for scorched earth here. We aren't that far off, Yzerman never thought we'd compete with Talbot Lyon Campbell Hutch Husso etc. The needle moves when Cossa comes up i think anyways. As for the shit contracts like Holl and compher and Copp etc they were never a plan for the future hence why they aren't on long contracts. They all expire when we are ready to trust compete which would be potentially 2 years from now..

We need a solid future goalie- Cossa is on his way

1 top 4 dman if ASP can crack the team
1 scoring winger- Marner
Also read somewhere today that once again Petterson may be on the move this summer. Maybe try to swing a trade with retention? I think he's gonna bounce back big and a change of scenery might help.

Just get rid of Holl, Compher, Petry, Compher and replace those guys and I think we see a significant change. Also Todd starting with the Wings may help quite a bit too not coming in trying to turn a team around.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Fact: if after 7 consecutive non playoff position draft picks under SY and 9 total in a row, the DRW roster is so bad fans wanna trade away 2 of its top 3 forwards for more magic beans, then 100% for a fact the GM is the problem...

At this point SY HAS to have a stable full of high caliber prospects and young players or he's the problem, as no team has made more draft picks since SY became the GM in Detroit...no other team.

Its time to start adding more supporting talent and folding in more and more of our own prospects to this roster...no more tanking for top picks...we need talent not remove it

That's SYs job