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How do we feel about Vancouver these days?

Oilslick941611 said:
I remember getting flamed last year when i said they wouldn't be nearly as good as last year in the offseason after they lost all their defensive depth.

They seem like a team that desperately needs a culture change.Why Miller and Peterson are still on the same team at this point is a little ridiculous. The rumours are crazy and there is so much smoke regarding them, they clearly can't get along and seemingly the organization has tried everything to make it work, but they need to bite down, rip off the bandaid and fix the room. Even if it means losing the trade, the GM needs to tell the team it'll be alright and get cracking and put it behind them and start looking forward. I also wonder if they are tuning out the coach and I believe Demkos best days are behind him, his injury history isnt good and knees and the back are important to a goalie.

Hughes seems to be the only bright spot on the team and we are entering "will he stay or will he go" territory when he his contract is up. The GM should be feeling the pressure. It also seems teams balked at the prices they are asking for Miller or Petterson so Carolina went for Rantanen instead. GM might want to get a trade done before the deadline, he is losing partners quickly.

Long way of saying its hard to be optimistic for the outlook of the franchise. How the GM acts in the coming weeks will make or break the Canucks for probably the next decade.
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For an oil fan, props for a fair take or at least well explained. Things can go multiple ways and they went the way you predicted. However, we've now seen this team be a dominant team and I don't think the loss of Cole and Zadorov was enough to cause this downfall. But as you say, it's put up or shut up time. This season has been truly disappointing to date.
 
Pettersson is on pace for his worst points total in his career. He'd have to go on a heater for the last 40 games just to equal one of his average seasons. That's a big problem this year. It appears not to be an injury issue, but a confidence one. This player has ungodly skill, but often seems to have problems with the mental strength part. He loses faith in himself and his abilities, and it's odd to see when you've seen the insane shit he can do when he's not so fragile mentally. All you can do is hope he comes out of it, but this current funk he's in is the longest one Canucks fans have ever seen him float through.

They got two of the best pick ups in the off season in Sherwood and Lainkenen. I can't even imagine how bad they'd be without those two picks ups and without Hughes playing at the MVP level he has this year. He leads the team in every important stat, and he's a dman. Crazy.

Sadly, one of the real heart and soul players they depended on last season, Joshua, got Cancer and hasn't really looked the same since he came back from it, before he got injured again. That was a huge loss for this club that doesn't get talked about much, but it was a real blow.

Another big loss that we didn't realize was going to be as important as it was until the guy was gone was Ian Cole. He fit in PERFECTLY on the Vancouver blue line, was a stablizing force back there that allowed other players like Meyers to fit into a more comfortable role, and losing him in the off season and replacing him with a player like Deharnais has been a real problem that doesn't get talked about much because the fan base spends more time focusing on the loss of Zadorov, who wasn't nearly as important to the team's defensive structure, but won a lot of hearts with his important goals in the playoffs last season.

I dunno if this team can squeak into a wildcard playoff spot, but if they do, I'm gonna be really happy. I love this team.

Bougieman said:
Pettersson is on pace for his worst points total in his career. He'd have to go on a heater for the last 40 games just to equal one of his average seasons. That's a big problem this year. It appears not to be an injury issue, but a confidence one. This player has ungodly skill, but often seems to have problems with the mental strength part. He loses faith in himself and his abilities, and it's odd to see when you've seen the insane shit he can do when he's not so fragile mentally. All you can do is hope he comes out of it, but this current funk he's in is the longest one Canucks fans have ever seen him float through.

They got two of the best "found money" pick ups in the off season in Sherwood and Lainkenen. I can't even imagine how bad they'd be without those two picks ups and without Hughes playing at the MVP level he has this year. He leads the team in every important stat, and he's a dman. Crazy.

Sadly, one of the real heart and soul players they depended on last season, Joshua, got Cancer and hasn't really looked the same since he came back from it, before he got injured again. That was a huge loss for this club that doesn't get talked about much, but it was a real blow.

Another big loss that we didn't realize was going to be as important as it was until the guy was gone was Ian Cole. He fit in PERFECTLY on the Vancouver blue line, was a stablizing force back there that allowed other players like Meyers to fit into a more comfortable role, and losing him in the off season and replacing him with a player like Deharnais has been a real problem that doesn't get talked about much because the fan base spends more time focusing on the loss of Zadorov, who wasn't nearly as important to the team's defensive structure, but won a lot of hearts with his important goals in the playoffs last season.

I dunno if this team can squeak into a wildcard playoff spot, but if they do, I'm gonna be really happy. I love this team.
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How do we feel about Vancouver these days?​

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Bougieman said:
Pettersson is on pace for his worst points total in his career. He'd have to go on a heater for the last 40 games just to equal one of his average seasons. That's a big problem this year. It appears not to be an injury issue, but a confidence one. This player has ungodly skill, but often seems to have problems with the mental strength part. He loses faith in himself and his abilities, and it's odd to see when you've seen the insane shit he can do when he's not so fragile mentally. All you can do is hope he comes out of it, but this current funk he's in is the longest one Canucks fans have ever seen him float through.

They got two of the best pick ups in the off season in Sherwood and Lainkenen. I can't even imagine how bad they'd be without those two picks ups and without Hughes playing at the MVP level he has this year. He leads the team in every important stat, and he's a dman. Crazy.

Sadly, one of the real heart and soul players they depended on last season, Joshua, got Cancer and hasn't really looked the same since he came back from it, before he got injured again. That was a huge loss for this club that doesn't get talked about much, but it was a real blow.

Another big loss that we didn't realize was going to be as important as it was until the guy was gone was Ian Cole. He fit in PERFECTLY on the Vancouver blue line, was a stablizing force back there that allowed other players like Meyers to fit into a more comfortable role, and losing him in the off season and replacing him with a player like Deharnais has been a real problem that doesn't get talked about much because the fan base spends more time focusing on the loss of Zadorov, who wasn't nearly as important to the team's defensive structure, but won a lot of hearts with his important goals in the playoffs last season.

I dunno if this team can squeak into a wildcard playoff spot, but if they do, I'm gonna be really happy. I love this team.
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Your post was long enough without you quoting it too, 😉
 
Brutally tough to watch team for most of this season.

Unfortunately the brain trust decided that since Zadorov was so good they could simply replace him with large d-men. That failed, miserably.

A few key injuries here and there. Season really only saved by Kevin Lankinen playing mostly out of his mind and Quinn Hughes being ridiculous.

Pettersson and Miller have been mostly awful.

Boeser and Debrusk too streaky.

The forward depth is fine, the defense depth is garbage.
 
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It depends which side of the JT/EP divorce they want to side with.

If they keep JT, they'll be fine. Miller and Demko get back on board. Boeser probably re-signs. And they've got $11.6m opened up to replace the minimal production EP's been bringing to the team, with enough to improve the roster as well.

If they keep EP, the wheels will really fall off. That's the kind of loser move that can doom a franchise (see Toronto overpaying their 4, or both San Jose and Pittsburgh acquiring an overpaid Karlsson). You've got $8.5m to replace one of the best forwards in the league, who happens to be on one of the best value cap hits. Demko probably wants out too. I doubt Boeser stays. Hughes probably wouldn't be too far behind.
 
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So Rutherfraud played hardball with Horvat and moved him , while turning down Miller trades since he got here , and let Lindholm walk also , knowing we needed a 2nd line centre.

Yes Lindholm is overpaid and kinda sucks. But he would still be better than the return on Miller is going to be. And at least centre would have been covered in paper.
 
Rutherford might be the dumbest GM/President the Nucks have had and that's a high bar with Benning. My God that interview helped NOTHING and made everything worse.

I swear the guy just wants the attention and to be in the news. Theres no strategy to this.

Hope he steps on a Lego everyday for the rest of his life. Actually I hope he gets a day or two once in a while where he doesn't step on one, just so he can have some hope that the torment has ended. Just to have there be another Lego the next morning.
 
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I’m sure that Rutherland interview that just dropped will help the situation.

If anyone wants the details the hockey guy channel on YT just covered Rutherfords comments to the globe and mail.

I’m still dumbfounded a team President would go public with everything like that. Just mind numbing stuff.
 
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Rutherford might be the dumbest GM/President the Nucks have had and that's a high bar with Benning. My God that interview helped NOTHING and made everything worse.

I swear the guy just wants the attention and to be in the news. Theres no strategy to this.

Hope he steps on a Lego everyday for the rest
of his life. Actually I hope he gets a day or two once in a while where he doesn't step on one, just so he can have some hope that the torment has ended. Just to have there be another Lego the next morning.
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Hes in damage control already. He probably thought that this was for a national paper that fans don't read or something

 
PuckG said:
Baffling that two grown men are unable to keep their shit together in this situation.
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Its insane. Embarrassing for both of them at this point on a personal level.

I don't understand how they don't have the ability to look at each other and say "Jesus this is a little embarrassing. We might not like each other, but need to park it now and move on."

Maybe that has been attempted, I don't know. One of the two parties (not hard to figure out who) seems more apt than the other to melt down at the first opportunity, so odds are the conversation above has been had, but one of them doesn't have the ability to control himself enough to not renege on it.
 
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I've always been up front about my bias against the Canucks. So there's your warning.

They are becoming the joke of the NHL.

The moment there were rumors that both Peterson and Miller wanted out, the owner should have held a press conference to apologize to the fan base, and to announce that the head of hockey operations, the GM and the head coach had all been fired.

We're way past that now.

Demko wants out.

As is tradition, Boeser is in trade rumors again.

And when I woke up this morning to check the hockey news, I see people in the trade forum speculating that Hughes will want to be traded if the rest of the core leaves the team.

Last year this team was pretty damn good and they were really hard to play against. They were really annoying. Now they're a joke.

A ton of people need to get fired like yesterday.
 
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Never been to Vancouver.

I've heard the weather is great though, compared to other parts of Canada.

Javaman said:
As a decades-long Canucks fan, not good.

I'm basically resigned to the likelihood that they will not win a Cup in my lifetime.
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So you are essentially also a Leafs fan........

thadd said:
I've always been up front about my bias against the Canucks. So there's your warning.

They are becoming the joke of the NHL.

The moment there were rumors that both Peterson and Miller wanted out, the owner should have held a press conference to apologize to the fan base, and to announce that the head of hockey operations, the GM and the head coach had all been fired.

We're way past that now.

Demko wants out.

As is tradition, Boeser is in trade rumors again.

And when I woke up this morning to check the hockey news, I see people in the trade forum speculating that Hughes will want to be traded if the rest of the core leaves the team.

Last year this team was pretty damn good and they were really hard to play against. They were really annoying. Now they're a joke.

A ton of people need to get fired like yesterday.
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Sounds to me like the shit owner is the problem. And that's a problem because the owner isn't going to fire himself.
 
They play well when they have less expectations put on them and a few lucky bounces go their way. They also get carried by Hughes on a nightly basis (honorable mention to Lankinen).

They've played better when they are considered the underdog (Leafs, Capitals, Oilers, etc.)

Mentally fragile team besides Hughes.

Wouldn't be surprised if the lowly Predators beat them next game, but also wouldn't be surprised if they suddenly went on a 5 game winning streak fueled by Hughes' dominance and a solid Lankinen, along with a side of "everybody expects us to fizzle out" mentality.
 
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