How aggressive should the Leafs be at the deadline? New Poll Option Added

[notDatsyuk]

I agree, but if you think they're never going to perform in the playoffs, cut bail and trade them all for massive hauls. Realistically, this is about as good (on paper) of a core as one can expect in Toronto. Any players acquired in the next 2 drafts are probably at best 4+ years from being an impact player and that is a best case scenario which with how late we're drafting probably happens 10% of the time AT BEST (when our core will be nearing mid 30s)

The next 2-4 years are in all honestly and likelihood the best and last chance for them

Probably right. But the fact is that the two with the least drop-off are signed and sealed (NMCs). The best thing might be to cut bait on the only one we can, who is also the one with the worst drop.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The more I think about it, the more I can convince myself Brayden Schenn is a good idea, not because I wouldn't have long term concerns, I would and I do.

But look at the east as a whole, and Washington aside, I think the east is weaker then It's been in a decade if not more.

Tampa is not the same

Florida is not the same

Boston is certainly not the same

The Rangers are not the same.

Carolina is not the same.

I think there is a legitimate argument to made that the Leafs are the 2nd best team in the east.

because they are where they are in the standings and they haven't been anywhere close to healthy, at one point they had 7 forwards out of the lineup they were STILL winning.

If there was ever a time to strike and make a big move it's now.

Let's say you got Brayden Schenn you could run.

Knies Matthews Marner

McMann/Domi-Tavares Nylander

McMann/Domi Schenn-Jarnkork.

I know people don't like Marner and Matthews togethe for some reason that does not and never has made any senser but let's be honest at some point they will be put back together.

It doesn't need to be Schenn, it could be Schenn, but it could also be Brock Nelson, ROR, Yanni Groude I don't really care.

The point is adding a quality 3rd line center makes this team legitimately 3 lines deep and with the Eastern Conference being weaker then It's been for close to a decade if not more, a team that is 3 lines deep will be tough for anybody to handle.

In fact I'd go knock on the Rangers door about Reilly Smith too.

Because if you can find a way to add that quality 3rd line center and a guy like Reilly Smith then you are nearly 4 lines deep, especially if you can hold out Jarnkrok until the playoffs.

This is the time to strike

 

[ACC1224]

The more I think about it, the more I can convince myself Brayden Schenn is a good idea, not because I wouldn't have long term concerns, I would and I do.

But look at the east as a whole, and Washington aside, I think the east is weaker then It's been in a decade if not more.

Tampa is not the same

Florida is not the same

Boston is certainly not the same

The Rangers are not the same.

Carolina is not the same.

I think there is a legitimate argument to made that the Leafs are the 2nd best team in the east.

because they are where they are in the standings and they haven't been anywhere close to healthy, at one point they had 7 forwards out of the lineup they were STILL winning.

If there was ever a time to strike and make a big move it's now.

Let's say you got Brayden Schenn you could run.

Knies Matthews Marner

McMann/Domi-Tavares Nylander

McMann/Domi Schenn-Jarnkork.

I know people don't like Marner and Matthews togethe for some reason that does not and never has made any senser but let's be honest at some point they will be put back together.

It doesn't need to be Schenn, it could be Schenn, but it could also be Brock Nelson, ROR, Yanni Groude I don't really care.

The point is adding a quality 3rd line center makes this team legitimately 3 lines deep and with the Eastern Conference being weaker then It's been for close to a decade if not more, a team that is 3 lines deep will be tough for anybody to handle.

In fact I'd go knock on the Rangers door about Reilly Smith too.

Because if you can find a way to add that quality 3rd line center and a guy like Reilly Smith then you are nearly 4 lines deep, especially if you can hold out Jarnkrok until the playoffs.

This is the time to strike

For me another C is a must and Schenn would be an excellent addition. I’d have Matthews, Nylander and Marner on seperate lines though.

Perhaps a 3rd line LW as well.

Knies Matthews Domi
McMann Tavares Marner/Nylander
New guy Schenn Marner/Nylander

Marner has shown he can play with anyone so Nylander gets whoever suits him best, probably Schenn.

 

[NVious]

Probably right. But the fact is that the two with the least drop-off are signed and sealed (NMCs). The best thing might be to cut bait on the only one we can, who is also the one with the worst drop.

The players are extremely talented, for us to get players of their talent level again will be very hard. The Oilers had 3 1st overalls (RNH, Nail, Hall) that are worse than Nylander, never mind Marner or Matthews.

Ultimately you just have to hope this group figures it out, not super likely, but the talent is there, this is arguably the most talented Leafs team since the last cup. Not the hardest working or most likeable, but most talented for sure.

 

[nuck]

For me another C is a must and Schenn would be an excellent addition. I’d have Matthews, Nylander and Marner on seperate lines though.

Perhaps a 3rd line LW as well.

Knies Matthews Domi
McMann Tavares Marner/Nylander
New guy Schenn Marner/Nylander

Marner has shown he can play with anyone so Nylander gets whoever suits him best, probably Schenn.

If the cost is close I would be looking at Brock Nelson rather than Schenn. He is not as far removed from his productive seasons and Schenn's remaining term isn't a positive if he isn't significantly better than this year. Paying extra to add a player with term vs adding a 33 year with term is inviting two different outcomes.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Tre is too scared because he is still having nightmares from trading away Tkachuk

 

[leafsfan5]

Think this is the year you absolutely go for it and deal a top prospect. Something like the ROR deadline year would be ideal

East is very weak, you have elite goaltending, the big 3 are elite, an elite shutdown pair in McCabe - Tanev

I have my doubts regarding the club but this is a big opportunity

 

[nuck]

Tre is too scared because he is still having nightmares from trading away Tkachuk

Tre had no choice with that trade. His nightmares would come from failing to sign Matthew and Johnny when they still wanted to be Flames. Hence he was probably crapping his drawers about potentially letting Willie walk. I can see with Johnny because he was apparently insulted about the Flames offer after 58 and 49 point seasons but how much of a raise on $6.75 did he deserve at that point? With Tkachuk Tre signed him to a 3 year bridge when MT wanted 6 or more so he missed the window. Coming off a 77pt season it seems kind of obvious that the more years the better unless he wanted $9M+per. The owner has a reputation for being more than a little hands on so he may have prevented Tre from the bigger investment. But yes, traumatized with Johnny/Matthew/Jonathan/Nazim none of which worked out as he had hoped (but Nazim close).

His confidence can't be high because all his wins have been on sub $5M deals and Shanny is probably looking over his shoulder with his own worries.

 

[ACC1224]

If the cost is close I would be looking at Brock Nelson rather than Schenn. He is not as far removed from his productive seasons and Schenn's remaining term isn't a positive if he isn't significantly better than this year. Paying extra to add a player with term vs adding a 33 year with term is inviting two different outcomes.

Yep for sure a good alternative, I would assume Nelson would cost more to obtain?
Big plus with Schenn is he’s won and played for Bérubé.