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Post-Game Talk: Hoppy St. Pootricks Day Sharks @ Rangers - 3/16/14

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HockeyBasedNYC said:
Was thinking the same thing. How all of these "top scorers" cant fit with any of our centers. There never seems to be any chemistry no matter what kind of team it is or who we bring in. Maybe its because our players arent that elite. Maybe its because our GM sucks at building a team the right way. We could bring in Crosby and he somehow wouldnt fit in.
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Gaborik fell out of favor because he was declining, and didn't have enough 'jam' for Torts. I can understand that one. However, what I can't understand is how this team put itself back in the exact same situation a year later. The team was playing quite well prior to the deadline, but Sather couldn't keep his dirty fingers out of it when he saw an opportunity to add another big name to the roster.

I honestly think Sather runs a hockey team like a hunter. It's all about the kill and what kind of trophies you can hang on your wall. The bigger picture doesn't matter to him at all.

Boltsfan9175 said:
You have what you have. You must find something that works for now..
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That's all well and good. I'm simply saying that Nash on the LW doesn't work. We've tried that before. Also, he and MSL are both guys who want the puck on their stick. That causes problems. The same sort of problems when you put Zucc and MSL on a line together. Zucc is MSL-lite, so not only is he on the wrong side of the ice, but you now have two players doing the same kind of thing.

Making it work isn't always an option. Sometimes the reality is that it just won't work with what you have.
 
Dactyl said:
They haven't done much post Olympics.

I still go with:

Nash-Stepan-MSL
Pouliot/Kreider-Brass-Zucc
Pouliot/Kreider-Richards-Hags
4th line
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I disagree they generate more chances then the other 2 lines
 
From the Post:

“When you get to this point of the season, it’s more about work ethic than talent,” Nash told The Post. “When I look at my shifts, the difference between when I’m scoring and not scoring is probably the time I spend on the inside.

“It’s not like I don’t want to, but I have to do a better job of getting to the inside.”
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It sure looks like he doesn't want get to the inside.

Nash needs to practice what he is preaching. He's talking about how it's more about work ethic than talent this time of year, but I am not seeing nearly enough drive or effort from him. And he's not the only guilty of this, sadly - almost every forward in the top 9 could benefit from adding a little more urgency and intensity to their game.
 
Trxjw said:
That's all well and good. I'm simply saying that Nash on the LW doesn't work. We've tried that before. Also, he and MSL are both guys who want the puck on their stick. That causes problems. The same sort of problems when you put Zucc and MSL on a line together. Zucc is MSL-lite, so not only is he on the wrong side of the ice, but you now have two players doing the same kind of thing.

Making it work isn't always an option. Sometimes the reality is that it just won't work with what you have.
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When have we tried Nash on LW?
 
Boltsfan9175 said:
Not going to read this whole thread, but TB fan in peace
Looking at your roster, it looks solid. What is wrong with the team and how is MSL doing? Is he doing alright? Haven't gotten to watch any Rangers games.
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MSL has been ok, not great. Rangers had 41 SOG yesterday and he did not have even one of those. It seems Callahan is fitting in much better in Tampa than MSL is in NY.

MSL - 7 GP , 2 points ( 2 A), and is a - 1

vs

Cally - 5 GP, 4 points ( 1 G, 3 A) and is a + 3

Callagraves said:
Rick Nash has 32 points in 52 games.

according to this board, he should be a 2nd/3rd liner
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Problem is no one on this team is really producing at top line numbers.
 
Tawnos said:
Maybe I blocked this out of my memory like a lot of the early part of the year, but I don't remember this. Who'd he play with?
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Honestly, I don't remember (I want to say Callahan?). But I remember AV saying he was moving him back to the right wing because he looks more comfortable there.

He looked fine at LW in the Olympics.
 
The Rangers are a hodge-podge. The pieces don't fit together. Its a hopeless situation. Very disappointing. The Garden makes their money. The players get their money. The team remains the same. Rinse. Spit. Repeat. Give them a few more million per year. Rinse. Spit. Repeat.
 
RangerBoy said:
The Rangers are a hodge-podge. The pieces don't fit together. Its a hopeless situation. Very disappointing. The Garden makes their money. The players get their money. The team remains the same. Rinse. Spit. Repeat. Give them a few more million per year. Rinse. Spit. Repeat.
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So depressing... and so true...
 
-31- said:
That's such a cop-out for him, IMO.
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Maybe. Gabby's always struck me as a pretty sensitive guy who doesn't require a whole lot to shake his confidence. He was clearly uncomfortable where he was playing. His discomfort led to bad play which put him in Tortorella's doghouse.

Should he be able to get over it? Sure he should have. I just don't think he did.
 
Tawnos said:
Maybe. Gabby's always struck me as a pretty sensitive guy who doesn't require a whole lot to shake his confidence. He was clearly uncomfortable where he was playing. His discomfort led to bad play which put him in Tortorella's doghouse.

Should he be able to get over it? Sure he should have. I just don't think he did.
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Yeah, that's actually pretty much my view.

I did think that Gaborik was the last one that they should try at LW.
 
Tawnos said:
31 is right, Nash wasn't the LW on that line. Gaborik playing LW was a big part of why he had such a bad start to the year... and never really recovered his game.
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Disagree. I distinctly remember him playing the LW for a considerable amount of time with differing levels of success. Also, his start was the only redeeming part of that entire season for Gaborik. 5 goals in his first 5 games and only 7 in his next 40+. Nash struggled to put the puck in the net out of the gate. 3 goals in his first 14 games. He ended up on the RW after that.
 
Columbus fan coming in absolute peace, but what you see is what you get with Nash. He always talks about the things that need to be done to the media, but he never actually goes out and impliments what he preaches. He had 2 seasons under Hitch where he was good with and without the puck, but unfortunately that fire died.
 
Doug61 said:
Columbus fan coming in absolute peace, but what you see is what you get with Nash. He always talks about the things that need to be done to the media, but he never actually goes out and impliments what he preaches. He had 2 seasons under Hitch where he was good with and without the puck, but unfortunately that fire died.
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Yep, I agree with you. Also, thank you for coming in absolute peace. Most posters just come here in regular peace and we hate that.
 
Doug61 said:
Columbus fan coming in absolute peace, but what you see is what you get with Nash. He always talks about the things that need to be done to the media, but he never actually goes out and impliments what he preaches. He had 2 seasons under Hitch where he was good with and without the puck, but unfortunately that fire died.
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I'd give his lazy ass another season to shape up. St. Louis has one more season on his contract. If we don't come close to showing a Stanley Cup winning mentality, I think we should ship both of them out for a re-tooling. That's my personal take.
 
-31- said:
Yeah, that's actually pretty much my view.

I did think that Gaborik was the last one that they should try at LW.
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He was a guy that benefited more than most from having the inside shot on goal from the right side.
 
Trxjw said:
Disagree. I distinctly remember him playing the LW for a considerable amount of time with differing levels of success. Also, his start was the only redeeming part of that entire season for Gaborik. 5 goals in his first 5 games and only 7 in his next 40+. Nash struggled to put the puck in the net out of the gate. 3 goals in his first 14 games. He ended up on the RW after that.
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Nash played lw with Cally and Stepan was the center I believe.
 
Trxjw said:
Disagree. I distinctly remember him playing the LW for a considerable amount of time with differing levels of success. Also, his start was the only redeeming part of that entire season for Gaborik. 5 goals in his first 5 games and only 7 in his next 40+. Nash struggled to put the puck in the net out of the gate. 3 goals in his first 14 games. He ended up on the RW after that.
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So Nash has struggled on the LW and he has struggled on the RW, does he get put at Center now?
 
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