Kings News: Holland officially GM

[MonkeysUncle]

Like hire , but am concerned that his only goal is to win a cup in the next 3 years and nothing else. Not the prospect pool, development, like a normal Gm would be concerned about and then when he leaves the foundation will be a train wreck, no prospects, no picks and will worse of than a Buffalo or Islanders etc..

 

[johnjm22]

His big mistakes there were Nurse and Campbell.

There was the Kassian contract too. Everybody knew he was spent, but Holland gave him a long term deal anyways.

He also failed to lock up Broberg and Holloway.

In his 5 years as GM he couldn't fix their goaltending issues.

 

[Matt13]

Still disappointed this group didn't even bother to interview a woman for the position.

Dear Diary, Veronica had a very funny joke today.

 

[Schrute farms]

Whatever

This ^ infinity

 

[shuchukfan]

It's official


How are you going to celebrate? I just put a packet of Del Scorcho in my armpits and squirted in to a co-worker

I did some stupid stuff as a kid and one of them was waiting for a "friend" to run by as I stomped on a hot sauce packet. Got him in the eye. No idea why I did it, though. Seemed like a good idea at the time.

 

[foshizzle]

Brad Holland is a good AGM. He was the key driver behind Edmonton getting Hyman and Ekholm. Holland Jr is an analytics guy- Holland sr is not. Holland Jr wanted to build an analytics dept in Edmonton (Oilers were the only team without one) but Sr resisted. Holland Sr thinks analytics are goals, assists, and points.

Also- get used to hearing “making trades in the NHL is hard”. A famous line Ken used when Chicago dumped Keith’s salary on Edmonton (Edmonton actually added to have that priveledge) “did you expect me to get him for free”. No Ken, we expected Chicago to add picks/prospects for us to take him on, not for you to add.

 

[Lt Dan]

I did some stupid stuff as a kid and one of them was waiting for a "friend" to run by as I stomped on a hot sauce packet. Got him in the eye. No idea why I did it, though. Seemed like a good idea at the time.

by chance was his name Matt?

 

[Lt Dan]

Brad Holland is a good AGM. He was the key driver behind Edmonton getting Hyman and Ekholm. Holland Jr is an analytics guy- Holland sr is not. Holland Jr wanted to build an analytics dept in Edmonton (Oilers were the only team without one) but Sr resisted. Holland Sr thinks analytics are goals, assists, and points.

Also- get used to hearing “making trades in the NHL is hard”. A famous line Ken used when Chicago dumped Keith’s salary on Edmonton (Edmonton actually added to have that priveledge) “did you expect me to get him for free”. No Ken, we expected Chicago to add picks/prospects for us to take him on, not for you to add.

Thank you for the insight.
I am very big on respect and I wanted to make sure than I am pronoucing your username right, is it pronounced

 

[johnjm22]

If Holland's first move is to fire Jim Hiller, then consider me a fan. This team will go nowhere with that idiot behind the bench.

I've got some bad news for you.

 

[Lt Dan]

There was the Kassian contract too.

He also failed to lock up Broberg and Holloway.

In his 5 years as GM he couldn't fix their goaltending issues.

Yes Yes and Yes

I have bean working on trying to be more positive.
-We have more goalies than Diddy currently has baby oil.
- We are hopefully a few tweaks away from winning a playoff round


We've got cap space
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I suck at contracts and Holland does overpay , so let's say
Gavrikov signs for 7.5

That leaves us with 14 mil if they go all in for first line forward and don't sign Kuzmenko

Good things can happen. I think Marner is out, but I would love Boeser or Bennett

 

[foshizzle]

Thank you for the insight.
I am very big on respect and I wanted to make sure than I am pronoucing your username right, is it pronounced

haha- yes. Also- I love that Chapelle Skit…

 

[MonkeysUncle]

Yes Yes and Yes

I have bean working on trying to be more positive.
-We have more goalies than Diddy currently has baby oil.
- We are hopefully a few tweaks away from winning a playoff round


We've got cap space
View attachment 1035812

I suck at contracts and Holland does overpay , so let's say
Gavrikov signs for 7.5

That leaves us with 14 mil if they go all in for first line forward and don't sign Kuzmenko

Good things can happen. I think Marner is out, but I would love Boeser or Bennett

No on Gavrikov unless its for 6, he has a career year and will be 30 and has like 3 years of solid play and he's looking for a 7x7 minimum . Rather Go trade route for ld.and move Edmundson. Kings need impact forward and Marner should be atop of list. La can bring in defenseman and have them succeed and they need scoring

 

[rebuildorbust]

Now fire Hiller, Ken

 

[foshizzle]

Yes Yes and Yes

I have bean working on trying to be more positive.
-We have more goalies than Diddy currently has baby oil.
- We are hopefully a few tweaks away from winning a playoff round


We've got cap space
View attachment 1035812

I suck at contracts and Holland does overpay , so let's say
Gavrikov signs for 7.5

That leaves us with 14 mil if they go all in for first line forward and don't sign Kuzmenko

Good things can happen. I think Marner is out, but I would love Boeser or Bennett

Both those players were badly mismanaged in Edmonton. Broberg wasn’t given a shot and is why he wanted out. Holloway wasn’t really given a shot until late in the season as well. Apparently, Holland was told to re-sign both those players in the winter- he didn’t.

Oh- he has never fired a coach. Both coaches fired in Edmonton under his tenure was forced upon him by upper management. I’ll also add, he never found Woodcroft. Woody was a Chiarelli’s hire running the farm team. In fact, in the press conference, Holland blurted out he wanted to extend Tippett and let Woody walk

 

[funky]

Kings Sign Forward Trevor Lewis to a One-Year Contract | Los Angeles Kings

Lewis is a two-time Stanley Cup Champion in LA and returns to the organization for the first time since 2020

www.nhl.com

Expect to see a headline like this soon.

thought it happened today and almost barfed

 

[KINGS17]

Sucks its just another guy like many other GMs and coaches that just merry go around the league for decades, was hoping for someone new however I am just glad it is someone new to us.

I want to see them win a cup again, of course but ultimately I just watch for entertainment, hopefully this spices things up a bit with some trades or change in direction... anything but status quo. I live too far away to go to any games so they arent getting any of my money anyway.

My initial reaction was kind of, "What Brian Burke wasn't available?", but then I remembered the Luc/Detroit connection and it made perfect sense. Luc is a moron.

 

[Matt13]

Marner is very talented. I have yet to see him step up in the playoffs the way you would need a player to in order to win a cup.

Marner isnt a dawg. This team needs some dawgs that bite for the playoffs.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Brad Holland is a good AGM. He was the key driver behind Edmonton getting Hyman and Ekholm. Holland Jr is an analytics guy- Holland sr is not. Holland Jr wanted to build an analytics dept in Edmonton (Oilers were the only team without one) but Sr resisted. Holland Sr thinks analytics are goals, assists, and points.

Also- get used to hearing “making trades in the NHL is hard”. A famous line Ken used when Chicago dumped Keith’s salary on Edmonton (Edmonton actually added to have that priveledge) “did you expect me to get him for free”. No Ken, we expected Chicago to add picks/prospects for us to take him on, not for you to add.

Thanks for the insight.

If Sr brings Jr aboard as AGM, with Jr positioned to take full control in a few years after Sr retires, this may be an accidentally shrewd move from the French-Canadian Brain Trust.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

I knew Brad Holland was coming, but I didn't know he was going to be the presumed heir apparent.

BTW, I never knew until today just how disliked Ken Holland is with the Wings fanbase. I got about 15 condolences texts and whatsapp messages today, you would have thought my dog died or something.

It's quite different than how our fanbase views Lombardi. I think the reason DL is viewed more favorably is because his three year disaster was ended by AEG and many saw it as unfair, while Holland's disaster was allowed to go on until the 2019 season. Holland's final 8 seasons in Detroit the team won 1 playoff series and never finished higher than third in the division, and between 2012 and 2018 they drafted one first line player in Larkin. I wonder if Lombardi's legacy would be different had AEG not fired him and what happened between June 2014 and April 2017 continued to happen until 2022 with Dean also passing on Q. Hughes or Makar to draft a bust in the process.

Agreed on the strategy/direction for the most part, while I am optimistic that some things will change for the better with the turnover (drafting and development philosophy), the fact that it's Luc hiring the 70 year old GM who brought him his only SC as a player, 23 years ago doesn't make you think Luc has any doubts about the teams ability to compete for a Stanley Cup.

Be interesting to see if Blake ends up somewhere else. That’s going to really be the only way we know what kind of GM he is.

As far as this Holland hire, I’ll reserve judgement until he starts screwing things up and the results are a disaster. I figure someone like Holland wants to put the final piece touches on his resume and go out as a great GM and will not let Luc dictate things. So it’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.

 

[Bandit]

I don't think Holland was brought in to fire Hiller.

Holland was brought in to make a final grab for a cup with Kopitar and Doughty. So he's not trading them either.

If he's bringing in his son to take over long-term, he might not mortgage the future either.

I just think he's going to be a lameduck hire, knowing he's playing on borrowed time, but the outcome won't affect his future employment.

I'm not saying he won't make a big move, but he's not driven by trying to save his job.

How much future employment should a soon to be 70 year old expect? Retire FFS.

 

[chris kontos]

The plus side of all this for me is that the position isnt being filled by a former kings player or bergevin.
But being named vice president to this guy isthe true punishment. Im surprized holland would agree to it and apparently ensures that luc's still pulling the strings. Time will tell if this is just business as usual which im hopeful its not.

 

[Statto]

I’m far from excited, feeling pretty pessimistic but I’ll support him and judge him on what he does.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

Like hire , but am concerned that his only goal is to win a cup in the next 3 years and nothing else. Not the prospect pool, development, like a normal Gm would be concerned about and then when he leaves the foundation will be a train wreck, no prospects, no picks and will worse of than a Buffalo or Islanders etc..

They brought him in for that reason, it’s a win at any cost mode for this franchise right now. All the chips are going right to the middle of the table, putting it all on 8 & 11. This is their last rodeo and Holland/Luc/AEG are going to go into this FA and offseason guns ablazing.

If it results in a Cup, great. If not, we’re screwed in 2027/28 and beyond. Going to be a real interesting offseason.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Marner is very talented. I have yet to see him step up in the playoffs the way you would need a player to in order to win a cup.

Marner isnt a dawg. This team needs some dawgs that bite for the playoffs.

This team could actually stand to not improve its talent but vastly improve it's asshole quotient

I used to think you either have it or you don't but after watching guys leave here and turn into dicks and watching tigers come here and turn into p***ycats it's a culture thing

Adding more talent doesn't fix what's wrong with this team. This team was talented enough for a 2nd/3rd round. It's not just 'bad matchup/bad luck'. These guys just need a colon cleanse of all the 'turn your cheek' hockey.

Reminds me of when Stoll left. I remember starkly saying is he replaceable from a talent standpoint? Oh god absolutely. But he was absolutely irreplaceable from a 'f*** you' standpoint, like Williams, Mitchell, Regehr, prime Brown. None of those guys were adds to put a team over the top from a talent standpoint. I do think Foegele was a step in the right direction in that regard...but Edmundson and Jeannot were terribly disappointing from that standpoint AND they weren't as infectious as hoped. These guys did NOT want to break a nail in the playoffs and you just knew they were gonna get their shit kicked in after game 3. That is hard to fix...but you look at what teams like Tampa did by adding Blake Coleman and Edmonton by adding gritty dirty depth and Florida by adding every asshole in the league and the best GMs can do it. Even Vegas and Dallas didn't quite get those levels of grit but they added massive size that can play. We are firmly OUT of the 'out talent' you category yet also not in the 'run you thru the walls' category.

 

[King'sPawn]

Thanks for the insight.

If Sr brings Jr aboard as AGM, with Jr positioned to take full control in a few years after Sr retires, this may be an accidentally shrewd move from the French-Canadian Brain Trust.

I believe this is what they call a happy accident.