HOH Top 60 Goaltenders of All Time (2024 Edition) - Round 2, Vote 4

[jigglysquishy]

Does anyone have either Luongo or Broda near top of their ballots? They got almost 0 discussion this round.

I have them kind of in the middle, and wonder if either/or might sneak in.

Not top no, somewhere in the middle.

I've been pouring over tons of stuff about the 40s and 60s Leafs dynasties. I'm pretty confident at this point in Bower being ahead of Broda.

Hap Day ran a punishing and tight defensive system that minimized chances against. Broda had a comparatively easy time. He saw shots, but they were typically from distance. Centres stayed back to protect the net. And the system worked since they won 5 Cups (arguably 6) on it. It is the most defense prioritized dynasty I've come across.

It's hard to rank Broda high when all the contemporary reports highlight team defense over goaltender. But I do think he needs to go next round. The longevity is still impressive.

The 60s Leafs were still a defensive juggernaut, but not nearly to the same degree. Bower shouldered more responsibility and is heaped with praise. The Habs teams they played pre dynasty might be the best ever and Bower is 1B to Plante in those series.

Luongo should go soon but not now.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Does anyone have either Luongo or Broda near top of their ballots? They got almost 0 discussion this round.

I have them kind of in the middle, and wonder if either/or might sneak in.

"Absolutely not" for Broda.
"No, there are too many better goalies available" for Luongo.

 

[nabby12]

Does anyone have either Luongo or Broda near top of their ballots? They got almost 0 discussion this round.

I have them kind of in the middle, and wonder if either/or might sneak in.

Yep, I have Broda in the top-3 this round, which is where he should be rightfully going.

Luongo is near the bottom of my list this round.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Yep, I have Broda in the top-3 this round, which is where he should be rightfully going.

What's the case here? I haven't seen any defense of Broda from anyone in this thread. "Rightfully" ought to come with a pitch...right?

 

[Professor What]

I have Broda high at the moment, though I think it's a bit fragile. There are some guys underneath him that could easily topple him if the discussion goes the wrong way for him. Honestly, I think it's largely an artifact of my having had him high to start with. He hasn't quite been brought down, but he hasn't been buoyed like some guys have.

Luongo is in the middle of my ballot right now, I suspect he's going to end up there.