HOH Top 60 Goaltenders of All Time (2024 Edition) - Round 2, Vote 11

[Dr John Carlson]

Procedure

• In this vote, you will be presented with 16 players based on their ranking in the Round 1 aggregate list
• Players will be listed in alphabetical order to avoid creating bias
• You will submit ten names in a ranked order, #1 through #10, without ties via PM to both @Dr John Carlson and @Professor What. That means six names out of these fifteen will be left unranked on your ballot.
• Use the same private message thread every week rather than starting a new PM
• Results of this vote will be posted after each voting cycle, but the individual ballots themselves will remain secret until the completion of this project
• The top 5 players will be added to the final list (unless a very large break exists at the spot between 4&5 (or 3&4!), or the break between 5&6 is minimal)
• Lists of players eligible for voting will grow as the project continues
• Voting threads will continue until we have added 60 names to the list, for a total of 12 voting threads

Eligible Voters

• Ballots from voters who have submitted an approved Round 1 ranking of 80 goaltenders (which was used to shape the aggregate list) will have their votes tabulated in the final ranking
• These voters are: @nabby12, @overpass, @frisco, @Professor What, @DN28, @jigglysquishy, @tony d, @rmartin65, @Vilica, @bobholly39, @The Pale King, @blogofmike, @Dr John Carlson, @MXD, @Michael Farkas, @ContrarianGoaltender, @VanIslander, @seventieslord, @Weztex

Guidelines

• Respect each other. No horseplay or sophistry!
• Please refrain from excessive use of the 'laughing' reaction to indicate disagreement / hold grudges
• Stay on topic and don't get caught up in talking about non-eligible players
• Participate, but retain an open mind throughout the discussion
• Do not speculate who cast any particular ballot. Do not make judgments about the mindset of whoever cast that particular ballot. All individual ballots will be revealed at the end of the project
• Anybody may participate in the discussion, whether they submitted a list or not

House Rules

• Any attempts to derail a discussion thread with disrespect to old-time hockey will be met with frontier justice
• Take a drink when someone mentions the number of hockey registrations in a given era
• Finish your drink when someone mentions that wins are a team stat

The actual voting period will open up on Friday, January 24th at midnight and continue through Sunday, January 26th at 11:59 PM Eastern time. I will release the results of the vote the morning of Monday, January 27th, at which point the next voting thread will begin.

Vote 11 Candidates

• Lorne Chabot
• Gerry Cheevers
• Roger Crozier
• Vladimir Dzurilla
• Ed Giacomin
• Riley Hern
• Braden Holtby
• Olaf Kolzig
• Ryan Miller
• Evgeni Nabokov
• Chico Resch
• Mike Richter
• Al Rollins
• Juuse Saros
• Tim Thomas
• Mike Vernon

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[jigglysquishy]

Dzurilla and Hern will do well for me here. Shocked we still don't have Paton. I thought Dzurilla would come up 3 rounds ago.

Giacomin will likely be at the top of my ballot.

Holtby is an interesting name. He has a couple year stretch where I think he was legit a top 2 or 3 goalie in the world. Not many guys left where you can say that.

 

[jigglysquishy]

	Goalie	Times	Share
1	Martin Brodeur	15	5.40
2	Dominik Hasek	11	4.76
3	Patrick Roy	17	4.63
4	Connor Hellebucyk	5	2.63
5	Ed Belfour	11	2.51
6	Pekka Rinne	5	2.12
7	Andrei Vasilevsky	6	2.05
8	Tom Barrasso	7	1.98
9	Sergei Bobrovsky	6	1.97
10	Henrik Lundqvist	10	1.93
11	Grant Fuhr	8	1.84
12	Braden Holtby	3	1.68
13	Roberto Luongo	9	1.66
14	Tim Thomas	3	1.55
15	John Vanbiesbrouck	9	1.52
16	Tuukka Rask	5	1.50
17	Miikka Kiprusoff	7	1.44
18	Carey Price	7	1.40
19	Evgeni Nabokov	6	1.23
20	Curtis Joseph	8	1.02
21	Pete Peeters	3	1.02
22	Igor Shesterkin	3	1.02

Bolded are eligible. Italicized are inducted. Pete Peeters is the only name to not be up yet. Holtby and Thomas stand out pretty strongly in Vezina recognition to their peers.

Miller is at 0.87, Kolzig and Vernon are at 0.84, Saros is at 0.42, Richter is at 0.21

Times top 3
Thomas - 2 (1,1)
Holtby - 2 (1,2)
Kolzig- 1 (1)
Miller - 1 (1)
Nabokov - 1 (2)
Vernon - 1 (2)
Richter - 1 (3)
Saros - 1 (3)

All-Star Team Finishes (1945 onwards)
Okay, I've tried this a few times now and the formatting is broken on the new website. Hopefully this works.

All-Star Team Finishes (1945 onwards)

Player	First	Second	Third	Total	Weighted Total
Ed Giacomin	1​	3​	0​	4​	14​
Tim Thomas	2​	0​	0​	2​	10​
Braden Holtby	1​	1​	0​	2​	8​
Roger Crozier	1​	0​	0​	1​	5​
Evgeni Nabokov	1​	0​	0​	1​	5​
Ryan Miller	1​	0​	0​	1​	5​
Olaf Kolzig	1​	0​	0​	1​	5​
Chico Resch	0​	1​	1​	1​	4​
Mike Vernon	0​	1​	0​	1​	3​
Al Rollins	0​	0​	2​	2​	2​
Gerry Cheevers	0​	0​	1​	1​	1​
Mike Richter	0​	0​	0​	0​	0​
Juuse Saros	0	0	0	0	0

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[MXD]

I had Holtby in the late 40ies, right between Ryan Miller and Connor Hellebuyck (which I already called a mistake). I may have been a bit too lenient, because he was really young when his game cratered, which isn't a great sign. It's crazy to think that he's the same age as Drew Doughty and Jamie Benn, but stopped being relevant about 7 years ago. I'm very comfortable calling him the 2nd best netminder in the world during the mid 2010ies, after Carey Price.

Come to think of it, his career trajectory is quite similar to PK Subban. Came out looking great in 2010-11, become star in 2013, become nearly interchangeable in 2018 and retired in 2022.