HOH Top 60 Goaltenders of All Time (2024 Edition) - Round 2, Vote 1

[Michael Farkas]

Dryden is not, for me.

 

[VanIslander]

TIER1: Hasek & Roy as 1A & 1B, interchangeable.

Is their a 3rd on this tier?

I think not.

But the top of tier 2?

When i was young, Habs fans galore extolled Plante.

But over time, the 10-year 1st/2nd all-star relentless 500+ games of not only durability but recognized greatness AGAINST dynasty goalies in Montreal and Toronto... of Glenn Hall of lesser stocked Chicago... has made me think the longstanding take-your-pick trio of O6 greats from the era ought to be led by Hall.

 

[VanIslander]

Dryden is not, for me.

Dryden-Tretiak... i dunno how old you are, but thousands of voices have put them in convo as -at least - near each other, same tier guys.

To kick Dryden out of a club and admit Tretiak is to split hairs.

 

[Dr John Carlson]

Lots of interesting avenues of discussion today... me and @Professor What are not quite satisfied that we're going to be able to flesh all of it out by Sunday.

How much appetite is there for this opening vote's discussion to be extended for another week? Seeing how it is the first vote, we want to make sure we get this 'right'... but if people are set to vote, then we'll be set too.

We're gonna go ahead and make this official. Voting for this round will open next Friday, October 11 instead, and the OP will be edited to reflect this.

So if anybody was thinking of cooking something up, but was concerned about time constraints... go crazy!

 

[VanIslander]

Giving a week's notice is always a good thing.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Dryden-Tretiak... i dunno how old you are, but thousands of voices have put them in convo as -at least - near each other, same tier guys.

To kick Dryden out of a club and admit Tretiak is to split hairs.

That's all well and good. Call me the Hair Splitter then. Tretiak is a tier better for me.

One unrelated note, but just out of curiosity...Brodeur, Belfour, Nabokov, etc. etc. trace their roots to Tretiak and base their game on Tretiak.

Who are the Dryden disciples out there?

 

[bobholly39]

Here's a question.

Does anyone here have either Tretiak or Dryden top 6? In my opinion - there seems to be a pretty clear top 6.

It might make sense to add the top 6 to the final list after the first vote, especially if we're going an extra week, assuming the voting comes out with a clear gap for the 6.

If anyone does think Dryden or Tretiak should break up the top 6 - I'd love to hear the argument, and I'd love to hear how high you'd slot them, and who goes down to 7th and/or 8th.

 

[MXD]

Here's a question.

Does anyone here have either Tretiak or Dryden top 6? In my opinion - there seems to be a pretty clear top 6.

It might make sense to add the top 6 to the final list after the first vote, especially if we're going an extra week, assuming the voting comes out with a clear gap for the 6.

If anyone does think Dryden or Tretiak should break up the top 6 - I'd love to hear the argument, and I'd love to hear how high you'd slot them, and who goes down to 7th and/or 8th.

Terry Sawchuk, for reasons already mentionned in this thread (slight distrust about his peak due to being achieved on easy mode, back 3-quarters of his career as a below-average starter).

 

[jigglysquishy]

For the record, this top 8 was not my top 8. I had Dryden at 9.

As much as it bugs me to have the entire top 6 from only 2 eras, that's how I'll be voting. Would love to hear an argument otherwise.

 

[VanIslander]

That's all well and good. Call me the Hair Splitter then. Tretiak is a tier better for me.

One unrelated note, but just out of curiosity...Brodeur, Belfour, Nabokov, etc. etc. trace their roots to Tretiak and base their game on Tretiak.

Who are the Dryden disciples out there?

Disciples?

Hasek disciples are in asylums, eh?

WHO copied a tall butterfly, pop-up quick goalie known to stack and poke check? Who cares whether "disciples" resulted?

If anyone does think Dryden or Tretiak should break up the top 6 - I'd love to hear the argument, and I'd love to hear how high you'd slot them, and who goes down to 7th and/or 8th.

If you are all ears... Sawchuk was netminding a dynasty of Howe, Kelly, Lindsay, and Plante played BEHIND Harvey, Richard and Beliveau, among others (a boatload of HOFers).

Hasek & Hall had no dynasty help. Tretiak faced the NHL's best!

(Is Tom Brady the best QB ever? No way. He is the "greatest" due to team accomplishments he was a significant part of.)