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Postseason All-Star Teams Voting Shares (goalie)
When we're speaking about post-season all-star teams for goalies, we have most or all of the actual votes for all seasons. We don't have to treat all first team selections equally or all second team selections equally.
I've calculated vote shares for goalie all-star voting running through 1949-50. This season serves as a clear breaking point for eras. None of Bill Durnan, Frank Brimsek, or Turk Broda were listed in all star voting after 1949-50. And Terry Sawchuk began dominating the all-star voting in the 1950-51 season.
Vote share=player's votes for the season / the maximum available voting points available for a player. For example,
- In 1934-35, Lorne Chabot was the first team all-star goalie and received 34 of 99 possible points. His vote share for that season is 0.34.
- In 1934-35, Tiny Thompson was the second team all star goalie and received 29 of 99 possible points. His vote share for that season is 0.29.
- In 1935-36, Tiny Thompson was the first team all star goalie and received 90 of 93 possible points. His vote share for that season is 0.97.
- In 1935-36, Wilf Cude was the second team all star goalie and received 18 of 93 possible points. His vote share for that season is 0.19.
All star voting shares from 1930-31 through 1949-50
Bill Durnan is the leader in AS Shares pre-Sawchuk. Brimsek, Thompson, Broda, and Gardiner fill out the top 5.
Although Brimsek, Thompson, Broda, and Kerr all received votes in more seasons, Durnan was the landslide voting winner for all six of his first-team all-star spots. 6 of the 11 goalie seasons receiving more than 80% of the available votes belonged to Durnan.
Highest single season AS Shares, 1930-31 through 1949-50
Next, I'll add in the four seasons when coaches voted for unofficial all-star positions, from 1926-27 through 1928-29.
While we don't have actual point totals for 1926-27, I've estimated point totals based on a description of the votes (Hainsworth and Roach tied for first, Hainsworth had more first place votes, Worters finished third, Benedict and Chabot also received votes.)
All star voting shares from 1926-27 through 1949-50
After adding these four post-consolidation 1920s seasons in, Tiny Thompson has nearly caught Frank Brimsek for second. Roy Worters moved up past Broda, Gardiner, Kerr, and Rayner to place fourth in voting shares, and second in seasons receiving votes. John Ross Roach and George Hainsworth both moved into the top 10 for this time period.
What if we replace the writers' voting with the coaches' voting? The table above includes the writers' voting from 1930-31 through 1945-46. I'll include all voting totals we have from the coaches. And for any goalies who we know received votes from the coaches but not how many, I'll include their vote share from the writers.
So it's 90-95% coaches voting, with a handful of writers votes filling in the gaps (including two full seasons in 1930-31 and 1931-32 where we have no votes from the coaches).
Coaches' all-star voting from 1926-27 through 1949-50
The coaches' voting results are pretty similar to the writers, overall. No changes to the order of the top 7.
Brimsek and Thompson are still in a dead heat for #2, and are closer to #1 Durnan than in the writers' results.
Per the coaches results, #6 Charlie Gardiner has more separation from the #7-10 finishers than he does in the writers results, finishing close behind #5 Broda.
Wilf Cude is in the top 10 per the coaches, and the writers have John Ross Roach. Otherwise it's the same 9 names (Durnan, Brimsek, Thompson, Worters, Broda, Gardiner, Kerr, Hainsworth, Rayner).
Chuck Rayner is the only goaltender listed here for whom we have all-star votes after 1949-50. He was the second team all-star goalie in 1950-51, receiving 40 of 90 points (0.44 share). If we add his 1950-51 share to his pre-1950 totals, he sits at 1.98 shares, ahead of Dave Kerr for #7 on both the writers' and coaches' list.
NHL goalie leaders from 1926-27 through 1949-50
Lorne Chabot, Alec Connell, Mike Karakas, and Bill Beveridge were goalies with significant NHL careers in this time who received relatively little support in all-star voting.
While Chabot was voted the first-team goalie for 1934-35 by the writers, the votes were split among several goalies.
Coaches picked Tiny Thompson (14 votes of max 27) and Roy Worters (11 votes of max 27) over Chabot.
Chabot's 1934-35 is the lowest vote share of any official first team all star from 1930-31 through 1949-50. 16 second or third place seasons have higher vote shares.
When we're speaking about post-season all-star teams for goalies, we have most or all of the actual votes for all seasons. We don't have to treat all first team selections equally or all second team selections equally.
I've calculated vote shares for goalie all-star voting running through 1949-50. This season serves as a clear breaking point for eras. None of Bill Durnan, Frank Brimsek, or Turk Broda were listed in all star voting after 1949-50. And Terry Sawchuk began dominating the all-star voting in the 1950-51 season.
Vote share=player's votes for the season / the maximum available voting points available for a player. For example,
- In 1934-35, Lorne Chabot was the first team all-star goalie and received 34 of 99 possible points. His vote share for that season is 0.34.
- In 1934-35, Tiny Thompson was the second team all star goalie and received 29 of 99 possible points. His vote share for that season is 0.29.
- In 1935-36, Tiny Thompson was the first team all star goalie and received 90 of 93 possible points. His vote share for that season is 0.97.
- In 1935-36, Wilf Cude was the second team all star goalie and received 18 of 93 possible points. His vote share for that season is 0.19.
All star voting shares from 1930-31 through 1949-50
Goalie | Seasons w/ votes | AS Shares |
Bill Durnan | 7 | 5.99 |
Frank Brimsek | 8 | 4.39 |
Tiny Thompson | 10 | 3.23 |
Turk Broda | 8 | 2.91 |
Charlie Gardiner | 4 | 2.53 |
Dave Kerr | 8 | 1.93 |
Chuck Rayner | 4 | 1.54 |
Roy Worters | 6 | 1.05 |
Johnny Mowers | 2 | 0.84 |
John Ross Roach | 3 | 0.83 |
Wilf Cude | 5 | 0.72 |
Harry Lumley | 4 | 0.70 |
Normie Smith | 2 | 0.47 |
George Hainsworth | 5 | 0.46 |
Lorne Chabot | 5 | 0.45 |
Earl Robertson | 3 | 0.42 |
Mike Karakas | 4 | 0.40 |
Paul Bibeault | 1 | 0.23 |
Alec Connell | 2 | 0.20 |
Bill Durnan is the leader in AS Shares pre-Sawchuk. Brimsek, Thompson, Broda, and Gardiner fill out the top 5.
Although Brimsek, Thompson, Broda, and Kerr all received votes in more seasons, Durnan was the landslide voting winner for all six of his first-team all-star spots. 6 of the 11 goalie seasons receiving more than 80% of the available votes belonged to Durnan.
Highest single season AS Shares, 1930-31 through 1949-50
Season | Goalie | Points | Max | Share |
1943-44 | Bill Durnan | 756 | 756 | 1.00 |
1944-45 | Bill Durnan | 378 | 378 | 1.00 |
1948-49 | Bill Durnan | 25 | 25 | 1.00 |
1935-36 | Tiny Thompson | 90 | 93 | 0.97 |
1945-46 | Bill Durnan | 47 | 51 | 0.92 |
1939-40 | Dave Kerr | 77 | 84 | 0.92 |
1941-42 | Frank Brimsek | 78 | 90 | 0.87 |
1946-47 | Bill Durnan | 13 | 15 | 0.87 |
1933-34 | Charlie Gardiner | 89 | 105 | 0.85 |
1949-50 | Bill Durnan | 21 | 25 | 0.84 |
Next, I'll add in the four seasons when coaches voted for unofficial all-star positions, from 1926-27 through 1928-29.
While we don't have actual point totals for 1926-27, I've estimated point totals based on a description of the votes (Hainsworth and Roach tied for first, Hainsworth had more first place votes, Worters finished third, Benedict and Chabot also received votes.)
All star voting shares from 1926-27 through 1949-50
Goalie | Seasons w/ votes | AS Shares |
Bill Durnan | 5.99 | 7 |
Frank Brimsek | 4.39 | 8 |
Tiny Thompson | 4.22 | 12 |
Roy Worters | 3.05 | 10 |
Turk Broda | 2.91 | 8 |
Charlie Gardiner | 2.53 | 4 |
Dave Kerr | 1.93 | 8 |
John Ross Roach | 1.63 | 5 |
George Hainsworth | 1.58 | 8 |
Chuck Rayner | 1.54 | 4 |
Johnny Mowers | 0.84 | 2 |
Wilf Cude | 0.72 | 5 |
Harry Lumley | 0.70 | 4 |
Lorne Chabot | 0.55 | 6 |
Normie Smith | 0.47 | 2 |
Earl Robertson | 0.42 | 3 |
Alec Connell | 0.40 | 3 |
Mike Karakas | 0.40 | 4 |
Paul Bibeault | 0.23 | 1 |
After adding these four post-consolidation 1920s seasons in, Tiny Thompson has nearly caught Frank Brimsek for second. Roy Worters moved up past Broda, Gardiner, Kerr, and Rayner to place fourth in voting shares, and second in seasons receiving votes. John Ross Roach and George Hainsworth both moved into the top 10 for this time period.
What if we replace the writers' voting with the coaches' voting? The table above includes the writers' voting from 1930-31 through 1945-46. I'll include all voting totals we have from the coaches. And for any goalies who we know received votes from the coaches but not how many, I'll include their vote share from the writers.
So it's 90-95% coaches voting, with a handful of writers votes filling in the gaps (including two full seasons in 1930-31 and 1931-32 where we have no votes from the coaches).
Coaches' all-star voting from 1926-27 through 1949-50
Goalie | Seasons w/ votes | AS Shares |
Bill Durnan | 7 | 5.68 |
Frank Brimsek | 8 | 4.89 |
Tiny Thompson | 11 | 4.76 |
Roy Worters | 9 | 3.61 |
Turk Broda | 6 | 3.11 |
Charlie Gardiner | 4 | 2.96 |
Dave Kerr | 4 | 1.58 |
Chuck Rayner | 4 | 1.54 |
Wilf Cude | 6 | 1.51 |
George Hainsworth | 7 | 1.44 |
Harry Lumley | 4 | 1.12 |
John Ross Roach | 4 | 0.94 |
Earl Robertson | 2 | 0.93 |
Johnny Mowers | 2 | 0.82 |
Lorne Chabot | 5 | 0.51 |
Normie Smith | 1 | 0.42 |
Alec Connell | 4 | 0.40 |
Mike Karakas | 4 | 0.40 |
The coaches' voting results are pretty similar to the writers, overall. No changes to the order of the top 7.
Brimsek and Thompson are still in a dead heat for #2, and are closer to #1 Durnan than in the writers' results.
Per the coaches results, #6 Charlie Gardiner has more separation from the #7-10 finishers than he does in the writers results, finishing close behind #5 Broda.
Wilf Cude is in the top 10 per the coaches, and the writers have John Ross Roach. Otherwise it's the same 9 names (Durnan, Brimsek, Thompson, Worters, Broda, Gardiner, Kerr, Hainsworth, Rayner).
Chuck Rayner is the only goaltender listed here for whom we have all-star votes after 1949-50. He was the second team all-star goalie in 1950-51, receiving 40 of 90 points (0.44 share). If we add his 1950-51 share to his pre-1950 totals, he sits at 1.98 shares, ahead of Dave Kerr for #7 on both the writers' and coaches' list.
NHL goalie leaders from 1926-27 through 1949-50
Lorne Chabot, Alec Connell, Mike Karakas, and Bill Beveridge were goalies with significant NHL careers in this time who received relatively little support in all-star voting.
While Chabot was voted the first-team goalie for 1934-35 by the writers, the votes were split among several goalies.
Season | Goalie | Points | Max | Share | Rank |
1934-35 | Lorne Chabot | 34 | 99 | 0.34 | 1 |
1934-35 | Tiny Thompson | 29 | 99 | 0.29 | 2 |
1934-35 | Roy Worters | 25 | 99 | 0.25 | 3 |
1934-35 | Alec Connell | 19 | 99 | 0.19 | 4 |
1934-35 | George Hainsworth | 14 | 99 | 0.14 | 5 |
1934-35 | Dave Kerr | 7 | 99 | 0.07 | 6 |
Coaches picked Tiny Thompson (14 votes of max 27) and Roy Worters (11 votes of max 27) over Chabot.
Chabot's 1934-35 is the lowest vote share of any official first team all star from 1930-31 through 1949-50. 16 second or third place seasons have higher vote shares.
Season | Goalie | Points | Max | Share | Rank |
1934-35 | Lorne Chabot | 34 | 99 | 0.34 | 1 |
1936-37 | Normie Smith | 32 | 69 | 0.46 | 1 |
1938-39 | Frank Brimsek | 54 | 102 | 0.53 | 1 |
1930-31 | Charlie Gardiner | 61 | 111 | 0.55 | 1 |
1940-41 | Turk Broda | 52 | 87 | 0.60 | 1 |