Proposal: Hockey Trade: Kerfoot for ??

attackfan71

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Kerfoot is not the problem in leafs lineup he is exactly what we would be looking for and we already have him. He is worth his 3.5 mil. We will gladly keep him as nylanders running mate
 
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bernmeister

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Is Strome me an upgrade? If he is would ue cost less?
Gotta think Strome is an upgrade. Eye test says guy plays well w/elite first liners like Panarin, but also contributes independently in middle 6. Righty shot some find desirable. Kerf is not 1st line material. At this pt pinch hitting 2C on a good day? As to cost, he's making 4.5 today and give us a reason, we can retain. That takes care of this yr. Going forward he says he wants 6+, w/term, but I think tight cap market if you give him a nmc he will go as low as 5.5 or MAYBE 5.25 IF IF IF it is Leafs. May have to partially guarantee, or [to within reasonable degree and extent rules allow] frontload or whatev to sweeten, but end of the day this would be late 20s guy medium short term 4ish yrs at a doable #. What I'm asking for NY as a rental is not unreasonable.
 

WTFMAN99

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Sometimes I really do wonder if you are catching the differences between a video game and a hockey team?

On a videogame you press buttons at high speeds and get immediate results.

On a hockey team, you invest years of training and player development to build a team of real people who know how to work together and what to expect from each other.

I'm never really a fan of just moving pieces in and moving pieces out in hopes of finding some marginal gains. I look at hockey players as a human resource that benefits from a longer term, team-view approach.

Alex Kerfoot is a skilled, versatile player who is very well known to his teammates and the coaching staff. He is an important part of where the Leafs are now. Nothing you have said remotely suggests that trading him away would benefit the team, and it sort of looks to me like you're trying to press another button on a videogame.

I'm hoping the Leafs will continue to work with the players they have to develop a better, stronger team.

I don't like the composition of the forwards in the top 6. Easy to key in on a couple of guys like Matthews, JT and 88 because Marner and Kerfoot don't finish well.

Keep in mind that that 2nd line of Kerfoot-JT-88 had outscored some problems for a while but defensively bleeding a bit...it's not perfect.

I don't get emotionally invested in players, I just want to put together the best group possible. Kerfoot has been decent for the Leafs in the playoffs so no need to throw out the door but discuss possible trades...why the hell not?
 

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we need Kerfoot, he is versatile, can play legit anywhere in the line up.
I dunno, just seems silly to trade a guy like that.
Also other teams fans think he is a cap dump, sooo lets keep him
 

Recipe Unlimited

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Kerfoot-JT-Nylander is an absolutely fantastic 2nd line

If you can get an upgrade on Kerfoot that would be nice but not necessary.

The leafs have very few prospects/picks/available assets so any move they have to make should be to fix needs not wants.
 
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Fogelhund

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what I’m saying Kerfoot is hot garbage nobody wants

That's just dumb.

30th in the league in ESP, on a decent contract. playing 13:36 a night at even strength. He's a decent middle six forward, on a decent contract. He can play wing, C has versatility, can PK.

I don't think he gets what the OP wants, nor would I pay the extra to upgrade him (Leafs have more pressing needs), but to suggest no NHL team would want him, and he's garbage... not a good take at all.
 

Ledge And Dairy

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Gotta think Strome is an upgrade. Eye test says guy plays well w/elite first liners like Panarin, but also contributes independently in middle 6. Righty shot some find desirable. Kerf is not 1st line material. At this pt pinch hitting 2C on a good day? As to cost, he's making 4.5 today and give us a reason, we can retain. That takes care of this yr. Going forward he says he wants 6+, w/term, but I think tight cap market if you give him a nmc he will go as low as 5.5 or MAYBE 5.25 IF IF IF it is Leafs. May have to partially guarantee, or [to within reasonable degree and extent rules allow] frontload or whatev to sweeten, but end of the day this would be late 20s guy medium short term 4ish yrs at a doable #. What I'm asking for NY as a rental is not unreasonable.
We are talking about next year as a free agent.
 

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a Strome deal to Leafs might include Kerfoot to balance Cap and fill some reps,
but the main return to convince NY would be the rest of the deal - perhaps not top-top prospect C, such as Abramov, and midround-pick
Strome likely effective fit w Leafs, producing in a complimentary role playing with top talent guys
 
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NMacrules

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Trade deadline is still 2 full months away. Enough with all the stupid proposals already.
 

NMacrules

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Bunting Kerfoot Mikheyev works as our top 9 LWs and cost a whopping 6m combined.

Why mess around with a top 9 that looks pretty good.
Because that top 9 is butter soft and half of them disappear in the playoffs when the going gets tough. They can't handle the tough stuff and start playing afraid. The rest of the league knows this.
 

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What is the reason Toronto would trade Kerfoot for a roughly equivalent player? Kerfoot is a versatile, multi-position player with special teams utility. He plays anywhere the coaches tell him, likes playing in Toronto, and is evidently a well-liked teammate.

Strome? It's just a bigger cap hit. And he's not signed for next season, whereas Kerfoot is locked in at a reasonable cap hit.
 
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bossram

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Because that top 9 is butter soft and half of them disappear in the playoffs when the going gets tough. They can't handle the tough stuff and start playing afraid. The rest of the league knows this.

Which is why gritty, tough, veteran leader Nick Foligno completely solved this problem last year! Of course! The answer is MORE toughness, not, y'know, actually scoring some goals.
 

Sensfan6

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Kerfoot has produced 27 points in 38GP and has a cap hit over 3.5M although his actual dollars owed for the remainder of the contract (1 year after this season) are much less.

I was wondering if there is another LW/C on your team that you'd be interested in trading for Kerfoot.

He's mostly played LW this year but produced pretty well in the playoffs as a 2C for Toronto. All points this season are either ES or short handed as he hasn't been getting any PP time this season

Cheers.
Kerfoot and a 2nd round pick to Ottawa for Nick Paul and a 6th round pick. Paul is an upgrade and cheaper for a team like Toronto that is up against the cap.
 

A1LeafNation

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Because that top 9 is butter soft and half of them disappear in the playoffs when the going gets tough. They can't handle the tough stuff and start playing afraid. The rest of the league knows this.
Kerfoot was the one guy who didn't disappear lol.

Bunting wasn't even here last year.
 
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WTFMAN99

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Kerfoot and a 2nd round pick to Ottawa for Nick Paul and a 6th round pick. Paul is an upgrade and cheaper for a team like Toronto that is up against the cap.

Nick Paul is a worse player that expires after this season, even if the picks were swapped around I don't see how it helps Toronto win a playoff round.
 

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what I’m saying Kerfoot is hot garbage nobody wants
What you're saying is dumb.
If you hope to be a hockey fan one day, strive to be a knowledgeable one.
 

Boondock

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Not sure yet. I was hoping to see some names brought forward and then see what needs to be added on either end of the deal.

It isn't going well lol.
Is the premise that you'd like a top 6 LW upgrade and Kerfoot must be one of the pieces going back? The upgrade is to improve the goal scoring output.
If this is the case - here is a list of LW's I could see available that score more than Kerfoot.
Kubalik
E. Kane
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Rickell
Not sure what the ask would be for these players, but there are some names for discussion
 

4thline

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Because that top 9 is butter soft and half of them disappear in the playoffs when the going gets tough. They can't handle the tough stuff and start playing afraid. The rest of the league knows this.

But what is the Leaf's record against playoff team's this year? That's the real question.
 

WTFMAN99

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Is the premise that you'd like a top 6 LW upgrade and Kerfoot must be one of the pieces going back? The upgrade is to improve the goal scoring output.
If this is the case - here is a list of LW's I could see available that score more than Kerfoot.
Kubalik
E. Kane
Tatar
Rickell
Not sure what the ask would be for these players, but there are some names for discussion

I could see Kubalik and Rackell having appeal to Toronto depending on what the ask would be on top of him.
 

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