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Tad Mikowsky

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I collected only briefly, but I do have complete young gun sets of 2014-15, 2015-16 and 2016-17.

I miss it, but it’s too expensive. But it’s nice to see some cards gaining value.
 

Rants Mulliniks

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I can see why you weren’t impressed then.

Well in honesty, when I watch box breaks like The Cup, those too strike me as collosal wastes of money. There are some nice cards but far too many that will carry little value.

Watched a baseball one recently that I think was like $2500/box and was pretty underwhelmed. Again, nice enough cards but felt kind of "meh" given the cost.
 

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I need some advice. Looking to purchase high end memorabilia piece. Either a Cup ring or game worn Jersey. Where is good place to look?
 

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I spent every penny I got my hands on as a kid on hockey cards (during the late 80s). The local card shop had a Mario Lemieux rookie card. I was always in there, trying to haggle the owner on prices and just spent hours in that tiny store just looking and buying when I could. I would always ask him about the Lemieux card and dropping the price (about $160 ish?). He always said no, not that I ever that kind of money anyway. I would BEG my mom to get it for my birthday or christmas but she always said no. I was obsessed with this card. It would be the crown possession.

I forget how or why my mom finally gave in and gave me the money for it (13th birthday maybe?) but she finally gives me the money for it. I race over to the shop and buy it. I was soo happy. I was soo pumped up.

This is well before the era of internet and immediate knowledge on anything.

Years later, I find out that the one the guy sold me was one of the many fakes, with the 60/40 cut and the grease mark etc that was the obvious tell-tale signs of a forgery obviously known to the grown man who owned the card shop but perhaps not to a young kid (again no internet or anything like that).

I hate that guy. He knew. Thats why the card didnt sell and just sat there in his display case. And he just waited and waited for that young kid who always asked him about it to finally scrounge up enough money to buy his childhood dream.
 

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I need some advice. Looking to purchase high end memorabilia piece. Either a Cup ring or game worn Jersey. Where is good place to look?

For NHL jerseys I believe Meigray is still the leader in that, though I'll be honest I haven't had the money to seriously look into it.

For rings, probably something like Classic Auctions, which sometimes sells player collections. They've had rings before, so check them out.

There are also groups on Facebook that sell/trade this type of stuff. I can't speak for the example above, but I am in one for international jerseys, and they've been able to find anything someone is looking for.
 

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I spent every penny I got my hands on as a kid on hockey cards (during the late 80s). The local card shop had a Mario Lemieux rookie card. I was always in there, trying to haggle the owner on prices and just spent hours in that tiny store just looking and buying when I could. I would always ask him about the Lemieux card and dropping the price (about $160 ish?). He always said no, not that I ever that kind of money anyway. I would BEG my mom to get it for my birthday or christmas but she always said no. I was obsessed with this card. It would be the crown possession.

I forget how or why my mom finally gave in and gave me the money for it (13th birthday maybe?) but she finally gives me the money for it. I race over to the shop and buy it. I was soo happy. I was soo pumped up.

This is well before the era of internet and immediate knowledge on anything.

Years later, I find out that the one the guy sold me was one of the many fakes, with the 60/40 cut and the grease mark etc that was the obvious tell-tale signs of a forgery obviously known to the grown man who owned the card shop but perhaps not to a young kid (again no internet or anything like that).

I hate that guy. He knew. Thats why the card didnt sell and just sat there in his display case. And he just waited and waited for that young kid who always asked him about it to finally scrounge up enough money to buy his childhood dream.

Ugghh...what a horrible story. $150 would have been a lot of money to a kid, but relatively little for an adult too.

Unfortunately the sporting card hobby continues to attract a lot of scammers and weirdos like that. My first big pull was a Galchenyuk rookie auto, which was actually fairly highly collectible at the time of it's release. Sold it on Ebay.....guy who received it started a Paypal dispute and claimed he never got it. 2 months later the card, after being graded, is for sale out of the same small town I shipped it to.
 

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Ugghh...what a horrible story. $150 would have been a lot of money to a kid, but relatively little for an adult too.

Unfortunately the sporting card hobby continues to attract a lot of scammers and weirdos like that. My first big pull was a Galchenyuk rookie auto, which was actually fairly highly collectible at the time of it's release. Sold it on Ebay.....guy who received it started a Paypal dispute and claimed he never got it. 2 months later the card, after being graded, is for sale out of the same small town I shipped it to.
I had something similar happen to me early in my eBay career. Some people are shady af. I sold a Rantanen Auto to someone locally Free Shipping. The guys address was on my way to work so I dropped it off in his mailbox. 3 Weeks later he opens a dispute Saying he didnt receive it. I told him I personally dropped it into his mailbox and I have video proof. He then all a sudden says he found it under a pile of mail. Complete bullshit because you cant miss the bubble mailer I had the card in.
 

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I pulled 2 of my 4 Mcdavid YGs I have from blasters. One time it was the last box at Wal-Mart. Apparently someone bought 6-7 blasters and left that one haha.

Well hope I can get some of that luck lol. Hell I'd be thrilled to just get his jumbo young guns (I bought the boxes that come with 1 oversized rookie)

Not expecting anything of course but I enjoy the chance
 
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I spent every penny I got my hands on as a kid on hockey cards (during the late 80s). The local card shop had a Mario Lemieux rookie card. I was always in there, trying to haggle the owner on prices and just spent hours in that tiny store just looking and buying when I could. I would always ask him about the Lemieux card and dropping the price (about $160 ish?). He always said no, not that I ever that kind of money anyway. I would BEG my mom to get it for my birthday or christmas but she always said no. I was obsessed with this card. It would be the crown possession.

I forget how or why my mom finally gave in and gave me the money for it (13th birthday maybe?) but she finally gives me the money for it. I race over to the shop and buy it. I was soo happy. I was soo pumped up.

This is well before the era of internet and immediate knowledge on anything.

Years later, I find out that the one the guy sold me was one of the many fakes, with the 60/40 cut and the grease mark etc that was the obvious tell-tale signs of a forgery obviously known to the grown man who owned the card shop but perhaps not to a young kid (again no internet or anything like that).

I hate that guy. He knew. Thats why the card didnt sell and just sat there in his display case. And he just waited and waited for that young kid who always asked him about it to finally scrounge up enough money to buy his childhood dream.

That absolutely sucks.

I have that card. I think this winter I am finally going to grade a bunch of my cards. Between my father and I we have been collectors since the 50's. He passed away May 2019 so when I get the chance, going to go through and pull the big ones. We were lucky that my father was a little OCD and always sought out the best cards he could find and luckily what he was looking for was what one day became the exact factors they grade on, so I have a lot of cards (Lemieux, Gretzky, Howe, Belliveau, Plante, Orr etc.) that should fetch very good grades.

The old man had the rookie Mickey Mantle (one sold for $2.9 M) and traded it for bottles years before card values took off (he also collected bottles). DOH!

Funny thing though, one of my favourite possessions is a 1980-81 Pepsi bottle cap collection. In the days of bottles under the grey plastic liner of the lid, you peeled it off and there were player faces underneath for all the Canadian teams. There was a big disk/plaque that held them all. We completed it and I still have it. Don't see many of them around.
 
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Just pulled from an $18 tin. Second pack. Only second time ever opening 18-19 S1 (first time was a hobby box). Between my Allure Makar auto last week and now this I feel I'm using up all my luck now, lol.
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Always wondered why 1991-92 Team Pinnacle carries the value it does? Moreso because of the steaming pile the market was back then with little of value.
 

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I pulled 2 of my 4 Mcdavid YGs I have from blasters. One time it was the last box at Wal-Mart. Apparently someone bought 6-7 blasters and left that one haha.
Got all 4 of my McDavids from blasters. Bought 10 hobby boxes, and got 4 Panarins, but totally skunked on McDavid. Then Walmart had a sale on those jumbo blasters. Got 20 of those and hit 3 McDavids. These were the jumbo boxes that came with the Parkhurst preview rookies. Sold those rookies for the cost of the boxes. Wish I'd never heard of hobby lol.

Then a year later just randomly bought two blasters on sale.... Another one.
 
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blankall

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Mcdavids were actually alot easier to pull than Mackinnon in 2013. I had a harder time and waaaaaaay more product smashing in order to find Mackinnons.
Lol.

It's always the same odds for every young guns card.

The one thing with the MacKinnon is that many came with the pink blur. Not sure if UD is still replacing that, but I had to get all the ones I pulled replaced.
 

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Lol.

It's always the same odds for every young guns card.

The one thing with the MacKinnon is that many came with the pink blur. Not sure if UD is still replacing that, but I had to get all the ones I pulled replaced.

I've always wondered how the "replacing" cards works. Also on all the redemption cards that don't get turned in.....they just sitting on a pile of cards forever?
 

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I don’t think UD is replacing pink MacKinnon YGs anymore (could be wrong). I pulled mine from a blaster and still have the pink version.

I forgot which season people found roller marks down the middle of a bunch of YGs, but since S1 and S2 are always released just before the expo, UD was flooded with people coming to their booth with the errors. They ended up having a shipment expressed overnight so that people could get replacements on the spot.
 

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I've always wondered how the "replacing" cards works. Also on all the redemption cards that don't get turned in.....they just sitting on a pile of cards forever?
Replacing: generally they want a receipt and the serial number from the box purchased. Not sure if they ask for the error/damaged card in return but I assume they would.

Unused cards like unclaimed redemptions are generally used for giveaways and other product replacements.
 

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Replacing: generally they want a receipt and the serial number from the box purchased. Not sure if they ask for the error/damaged card in return but I assume they would.

Unused cards like unclaimed redemptions are generally used for giveaways and other product replacements.

The ITG cards I mentioned earlier, they did replace them without much request for anything (save pictures). The question was more around the notion "if you are being told there are only "X" amount of a card in existence, how are they replacing them"? Either they didn't release all the cards or they would have to do a new print (which I doubt they would do). In my case the cards were of very limited numbers.
 

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I don’t think UD is replacing pink MacKinnon YGs anymore (could be wrong). I pulled mine from a blaster and still have the pink version.

I forgot which season people found roller marks down the middle of a bunch of YGs, but since S1 and S2 are always released just before the expo, UD was flooded with people coming to their booth with the errors. They ended up having a shipment expressed overnight so that people could get replacements on the spot.

I believe it was 09/10 with the roller marks, with Tavares. 2007/08 also had a bunch of issues. I had a case (20 boxes) of blasters, where 1/2 of the YGs had the same rip at the top of the card. I complained to UD, who said they couldn't do anything, but then they through in a MacKinnon YG Canvas randomly into my next replacement....That graded a BGS 10, and is now worth a lot more than the YGs that were ripped.

2013/14 had a problem where the front was peeling off the canvas cards. That's been a bit of an ongoing problem.
 

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I believe it was 09/10 with the roller marks, with Tavares. 2007/08 also had a bunch of issues. I had a case (20 boxes) of blasters, where 1/2 of the YGs had the same rip at the top of the card. I complained to UD, who said they couldn't do anything, but then they through in a MacKinnon YG Canvas randomly into my next replacement....That graded a BGS 10, and is now worth a lot more than the YGs that were ripped.

2013/14 had a problem where the front was peeling off the canvas cards. That's been a bit of an ongoing problem.
That’s awesome with the MacKinnon canvas YG replacement! I haven’t come across the canvas peeling issue or recall hearing about it so I’m glad to know for the future.
 
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blankall

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That’s awesome with the MacKinnon canvas YG replacement! I haven’t come across the canvas peeling issue or recall hearing about it so I’m glad to know for the future.

Watch out for it. I've had a bunch of YGs look normal. I put them in a top loader. Then look at them a few weeks later, and large portions of the top have just peeled off the card.
 

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Always wondered why 1991-92 Team Pinnacle carries the value it does? Moreso because of the steaming pile the market was back then with little of value.

If you're referring to the Pinnacle B Team, this is one of the few insert sets that was iconic. Any iconic set will still have value today. Each card was one per three boxes so they were tough pulls. Several Score/Pinnacle subsets are like this: the first set of Check-Its, all of the Masks dufex sets, etc. Upper Deck has a bunch of these rare subsets that are valuable. The most valuable is the first set of Game Jerseys.
 

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Lol.

It's always the same odds for every young guns card.

The one thing with the MacKinnon is that many came with the pink blur. Not sure if UD is still replacing that, but I had to get all the ones I pulled replaced.
It felt a lot harder to pull Mackinnon lol. I legit bought tins, blasters hobby and it took forever and the first one I got was the Canvas YG. I was one of the lucky ones that I never pulled the pink blur one. The ones I pulled were the normal looking one. The Pink blur one still sells for a lot.
 
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