Hockey Cards - Part III

[leetch99]

Around $50 if you're willing to wait a year. PSA stopped taking new orders in to catch up.

That is indeed crazy.....thanks for the info !

 

[Canadian Finn]

If you actually have a Gretzky rookie it's in your best interest to have it graded. You're looking at $2000 even if it comes back PSA5.

I actually have 2. One that I would bring around to card shows to "trade" (which I never did) and one that I kept in a hard case at home.

I know my trade version wasn't mint. It would have been near mint at best.

Maybe I'll take the best 10 or so cards and bring it to a card shop (if there is such a thing) and have someone determine if it is worth going through grading.

appreciate the help.

 

[Muffin]

I actually have 2. One that I would bring around to card shows to "trade" (which I never did) and one that I kept in a hard case at home.

I know my trade version wasn't mint. It would have been near mint at best.

Maybe I'll take the best 10 or so cards and bring it to a card shop (if there is such a thing) and have someone determine if it is worth going through grading.

appreciate the help.

Also FYI there are two versions of Gretzky rookies. The O-Pee-Chee version is more valuable than Topps.

 

[The Kingslayer]

That is indeed crazy.....thanks for the info !

$50 to make $1000 is reasonable. The wait time is brutal. I still have cards with Beckett that were sent in May last yr.

 

[Canadian Finn]

Also FYI there are two versions of Gretzky rookies. The O-Pee-Chee version is more valuable than Topps.

Oh, that's right. Hmmm...I can't believe this but I can't remember which I had....it's probably been 20 years since I looked at my cards. I really can't remember what I had. This is going to bug me.

Might have to top by my parents....and find the cards.

 

[Muffin]

$50 to make $1000 is reasonable. The wait time is brutal. I still have cards with Beckett that were sent in May last yr.

I'm tempted to go grab a box of Black Diamond since I did so well in series 2 lol. Hit 5 Kaprizov Young Guns and sold them all .

All the suckers buying Kaprizovs, 23 year old Russian winger playing in Minnesota, zero chance he has any hobby potential, he'll be a $50 card next year.

 

[The Kingslayer]

I'm tempted to go grab a box of Black Diamond since I did so well in series 2 lol. Hit 5 Kaprizov Young Guns and sold them all .

All the suckers buying Kaprizovs, 23 year old Russian winger playing in Minnesota, zero chance he has any hobby potential, he'll be a $50 card next year.

You buy a case or random boxes? That's pretty damn good luck to hit 5 lol.

 

[Muffin]

You buy a case or random boxes? That's pretty damn good luck to hit 5 lol.

All from breaks. All random teams too, got real lucky lol. I ripped two boxes myself and only got Cozenz and Romanov in them.

 

[The Kingslayer]

All from breaks. All random teams too, got real lucky lol. I ripped two boxes myself and only got Cozenz and Romanov in them.

That is pretty lucky haha. Stutzle is the guy I want from this series.

 

[Muffin]

That is pretty lucky haha. Stutzle is the guy I want from this series.

I can't see myself opening a lot of products this year, just not the same without a top rookie on your team like Makar to chase. I like Byram but we all know he doesn't have much potential in the hobby. Next year I'll definitely PC Newhook though.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

So for the folks that do regularly grade, in a couple months time I'd finally like to grade some of mine. Bad timing in terms of cost and return time but I've been too busy the last 3 years and only hope to have time in about maybe 2 months.

Question is what to have done? I have complete sets from mid 70's through about mid 90's. A bunch of individual cards from 50's to mid 70's. The complete sets are in very, very good shape. Older individual ones hit and miss. I feel like the mid 70's up I should at least grade the HOF rookies. Older ones maybe just the HOF guys? I have Howe's, Plante's, Beliveau's etc. I would also kind of like to grade other Oiler Gretzky's. Would be a metric shiznit ton of cards though. Even just looking at the HOF rookies ones that's 74 cards. A couple (more recents) in there don't carry much value but most are pretty good:

Marian Hossa

Jarome Iginla

Kevin Lowe

Doug Wilson

Guy Carbonneau

Sergei Zubov

Martin Brodeur

Martin St. Louis

Dave Andreychuk

Paul Kariya

Mark Recchi

Teemu Selanne

Eric Lindros

Sergei Makarov

Rogie Vachon

Sergei Fedorov

Phil Housley

Nicklas Lidstrom

Chris Pronger

Rob Blake

Peter Forsberg

Dominik Hasek

Mike Modano

Chris Chelios

Scott Niedermayer

Brendan Shanahan

Pavel Bure

Adam Oates

Joe Sakic

Mats Sundin

Ed Belfour

Doug Gilmour

Mark Howe

Joe Nieuwendyk

Dino Ciccarelli

Brett Hull

Brian Leetch

Luc Robitaille

Steve Yzerman

Glenn Anderson

Igor Larionov

Ron Francis

Al MacInnis

Mark Messier

Scott Stevens

Patrick Roy

Cam Neely

Raymond Bourque

Paul Coffey

Larry Murphy

Grant Fuhr

Pat LaFontaine

Bernie Federko

Clark Gillies

Rod Langway

Viacheslav Fetisov

Mike Gartner

Dale Hawerchuk

Jari Kurri

Joe Mullen

Denis Savard

Wayne Gretzky

Michel Goulet

Peter Stastny

Mario Lemieux

Bryan Trottier

Larry Robinson

Guy Lapointe

Steve Shutt

Billy Smith

Marcel Dionne

Bob Gainey

Mike Bossy

Denis Potvin

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There's probably some non HOF rookies and such in there I should consider too. All told I might be looking at 150 - 200 cards. Oof!

Other thing I struggle with when it comes to PSA is they want you take a stab at what you think it will grade.

So I had about 2 hours to spare tonight. Pulled all the HOF rookies basically from 89 back to Denis Potvin. When I have more time will search out others I have plus some of my old 50's and 60's cards. Then will post some pics and maybe get some opinion on what those with submission experience feel should be graded.

 

[Selanne00008]

Oh, that's right. Hmmm...I can't believe this but I can't remember which I had....it's probably been 20 years since I looked at my cards. I really can't remember what I had. This is going to bug me.

Might have to top by my parents....and find the cards.

I'd be a buyer for some raw gretzky's as long as they are authentic.

 

[Satan]

is there any point to considering selling cards that are ungraded? maybe do a bulk sale to a collector?

probably they'll just live in my parents basement until I sell them at a garage sale in 15 years.

I'd be interested in buying if you sent me a few pics

 

[Rorschach]

It's in all honesty mind boggling . I was an avid collector seller in the early 90's via the Hockey News and the SCD magazines...we even had a story/mention in the SCD . I basically walked away in the mid 90's to pursue other interests and have not followed it since .

The grading thing is what throws me off...it would take so much time to go through things . I have some key cards...like a Gretzky RC and it IMO is pretty damn FINE ....and a couple of mid to late 70's OPCsets plus some Pat Roy- 86 -92 sets of course .

As far as card lots...I would have to look...I think I have a 50 or 100 count of Forsberg UD rookies and some Jagr and Sundin Premiere RC's . I also have a lot of Ranger singles from the 50's onward . If it is a crap weekend...I might look through and pull some stuff...sounds like it is the time to sell some stuff . I do however know where there are multiple Gretzky/Lemieux Rookies ....I had a good buying clientele back in the day .

OPCP is good stuff no doubt. I cracked two boxes last night I got for under $400 per. (A reasonable but not insane deal).

But the real message is this, for the key HOF and even HOVG players, even sets like Pro Set brands and Topps command triple digit premiums.

 

[leetch99]

$50 to make $1000 is reasonable. The wait time is brutal. I still have cards with Beckett that were sent in May last yr.

Maybe...unless the card gets swapped or lost of damaged in the process or the company goes bankrupt or whatever or the pyramid crashes and the market drys up of buyers .....can they be insured before you mail them out ? You would have to think if you had a 4,000.00 Gretzky and you offered it for sale for 3000.00 somebody would grab it and spend the extra 50to grade it and then resell it for 3500 -4000 ???? Seems like a quick way to make a few bucks .

 

[leetch99]

OPCP is good stuff no doubt. I cracked two boxes last night I got for under $400 per. (A reasonable but not insane deal).

But the real message is this, for the key HOF and even HOVG players, even sets like Pro Set brands and Topps command triple digit premiums.

I had tons of that stuff from the 80's and 90's but we shipped boxes and boxes of singles of stars and goalies to Finland back then at a premium . I remember going to the grocery store and buying the Selanne packages of Kraft Dinner or pudding or whatever it was....and I had more KD and such in big bags LOL....then one person could ever eat .

 

[leetch99]

OPCP is good stuff no doubt. I cracked two boxes last night I got for under $400 per. (A reasonable but not insane deal).

But the real message is this, for the key HOF and even HOVG players, even sets like Pro Set brands and Topps command triple digit premiums.

Are the Topps Tiffany hockey cards worth anything ?

 

[illpucks]

Do people really spend 3K USD on getting '79/80 o pee chee packs that have no Gretzky in it?

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

I'm tempted to go grab a box of Black Diamond since I did so well in series 2 lol. Hit 5 Kaprizov Young Guns and sold them all .

All the suckers buying Kaprizovs, 23 year old Russian winger playing in Minnesota, zero chance he has any hobby potential, he'll be a $50 card next year.

If that.

The hockey card market bottomed out. If your paying ridiculous prices for young guns your silly.

It was dealers trying to hype YG's like Prizm basketball. It's not happening any more

 

[Muffin]

Maybe...unless the card gets swapped or lost of damaged in the process or the company goes bankrupt or whatever or the pyramid crashes and the market drys up of buyers .....can they be insured before you mail them out ? You would have to think if you had a 4,000.00 Gretzky and you offered it for sale for 3000.00 somebody would grab it and spend the extra 50to grade it and then resell it for 3500 -4000 ???? Seems like a quick way to make a few bucks .

No one will pay 3500 for a raw Gretzky no matter how good it looks. That's why you should always grade them.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Do people really spend 3K USD on getting '79/80 o pee chee packs that have no Gretzky in it?

If they're graded and deemed authentic I'd buy any pack that year at that price.

I'd sell them, but I'd buy them

 

[Muffin]

If that.

The hockey card market bottomed out. If your paying ridiculous prices for young guns your silly.

It was dealers trying to hype YG's like Prizm basketball. It's not happening any more

Only the absolute top players in hockey have value. Kaprizov is not that level, we're talking McDavid and MacKinnons of the world.

The prices the run of the mill 1st liner are selling for right now is insane.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Only the absolute top players in hockey have value. Kaprizov is not that level, we're talking McDavid and MacKinnons of the world.

The prices the run of the mill 1st liner are selling for right now is insane.

Oh of course.

The superstars will always command ridiculous money.

I'm talking Pius Suter preselling at 100 bucks. That will be a ten dollar card this time next year.

 

[Muffin]

Oh of course.

The superstars will always command ridiculous money.

I'm talking Pius Suter preselling at 100 bucks. That will be a ten dollar card this time next year.

Yea I'm afraid it's inevitable the market will crash. Like what is this resurgence of 90s hockey cards? They used to be worth as much as the cardboard they were printed on, everyone has piles of them in their garage.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Maybe...unless the card gets swapped or lost of damaged in the process or the company goes bankrupt or whatever or the pyramid crashes and the market drys up of buyers .....can they be insured before you mail them out ? You would have to think if you had a 4,000.00 Gretzky and you offered it for sale for 3000.00 somebody would grab it and spend the extra 50to grade it and then resell it for 3500 -4000 ???? Seems like a quick way to make a few bucks .

I've been getting cards graded for over a decade now and I have never had any issues. Not with swapping, never worried about Beckett going bankrupt, never worried about the market drying up. You would think a global pandemic would slow the market down or crash it but its been the complete opposite. Im not sure how insurance works on mail outs but I can tell you I have always had my cards returned. I was a little paranoid in the beginning when I sent my cards out so I made sure to take plenty of pics of the cards to make sure they were indeed my cards when they were returned. Always got my exact cards back.