HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects Ranking #14 (closed)

[amnesiac]

TOP 50 PROSPECTS


Criteria is 22 and under, 30 NHL GP or less, no goalies

1. Macklin Celebrini - C		18.		35.
2. Matvei Michkov - RW		19.		36.
3. Ivan Demidov - RW		20.		37.
4. Will Smith - C		21.		38.
5. Alexander Nikishin - D		22.		39.
6. Cutter Gauthier - C		23.		40.
7. Artyom Levshunov - D		24.		41.
8. Cayden Lindstrom - C/W		25.		42.
9. Ryan Leonard - LW		26.		43.
10. Simon Edvinsson - D		27.		44.
11. Zeev Buium - D		28.		45.
12. Brandt Clarke - D		29.		46.
13. Danila Yurov - C/W		30.		47.
14.		31.		48.
15.		32.		49.
16.		33.		50.
17.		34.

To add:
Rutger McGroarty - RW
Mavrik Bourque - C
Quintin Musty - LW
Daniil But - LW
Carter Yakemchuk - D
Cole Eiserman - RW
Konsta Helenius - C
Trevor Connelly - LW
Tom Willander - D
Noah Oslund - C
Marco Kasper - C
Joakim Kemell - RW
Joshua Roy - RW
Bradly Nadeau - LW
Frank Nazar - C
Easton Cowan - RW
Brayden Yager - C
Konsta Helenius - C
Tristan Luneau - D
Carson Rehkopf - C
Logan Mailloux - D
Andrew Cristall - LW
Brennan Othmann - LW
Jagger Firkus - RW
Riley Heidt - C/W
Ivan Miroshnichenko - LW
Scott Morrow - D
Oliver Bonk - D
Josh Doan - RW
Theo Lindstein - D
Seamus Casey - D
Matthew Wood - RW
Zachary Bolduc - C
Mackie Samoskevich - RW
Colby Barlow - LW
Gavin Brindley - C





Past lists:
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects Ranking #50 (closed) (summer 23)
HFBoards Top 50 Prospects Ranking #50 FINAL (summer 22)
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects Ranking #50 FINAL (summer 21)
HFBoards TOP 75 Prospects Ranking #75 (FINAL) (winter 20-21)
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects (summer 19)
Top 50 Drafted Prospects 2018: #46 - #50 (summer 18)
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects #48 (summer 17)

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[CheckingLineCenter]

Said Simashev. Think he’s gonna be really good.

 

[amnesiac]

Perreault getting slept on

Was up there with Gauthier and Leonard at Boston College last season.

PLus hes a year and a half younger than Gauthier, and 4 months younger than Leonard. Only problem is his size (5'11 165 lbs ) compared to them.

Also had 10P in 7GP at the WJC (T-4th overall)

 

[5cotland]

Perrault beautifully being underrated again.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Hutson, is getting robbed big time

 

[Mrb1p]

Is Perrault underrated or are Smith and Leonard just overrated?

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Hutson, is getting robbed big time

Broken record is broken.

 

[amnesiac]

Is Perrault underrated or are Smith and Leonard just overrated?

they have more goals and are bigger. Thats the difference.

5'11 165 lbs
vs
6'2 189
6'0 192

Perreault should be one of the next ones, though. Wasnt getting many votes.

 

[Mrb1p]

they have more goals and are bigger. Thats the difference.

5'11 165 lbs
vs
6'2 189
6'0 192

Perreault should be one of the next ones, though. Wasnt getting many votes.

Smith may have a few Cms on him but he doesn't do anything with it. In fact, he's worse than Perrault at appearing big.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Perreault getting slept on

Was up there with Gauthier and Leonard at Boston College last season.

PLus hes a year and a half younger than Gauthier, and 4 months younger than Leonard. Only problem is his size (5'11 165 lbs ) compared to them.

Also had 10P in 7GP at the WJC (T-4th overall)

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Leonard and gauthier seem like high floor guys to me, should have a relatively smooth transition to the nhl.

Smith is the most talented….

I feel like perreault is seen as the guy with the most boom/bust…. If he had a 6 instead of a 5 on his height he’d prob jump up a bit…. Also draft stock…. Perreault went a lot later than other 3.

 

[amnesiac]

Smith may have a few Cms on him but he doesn't do anything with it. In fact, he's worse than Perrault at appearing big.

6'0 181.... so he has 15 lbs on him too

 

[Mrb1p]

6'0 181.... so he has 15 lbs on him too

That he does not use. That's a DB scout opinion.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Perrault

 

[amnesiac]

That he does not use. That's a DB scout opinion.

what dyou mean by DB? stats watching?

I mean Smith is a top 4 prospect across the board amongst every expert. Hes obviously is doing something right.

And no offense, but for someone to claim others are just "stat watching", and then puts out a widely ridiculed personal Top Prospects list that has Josh Roy 18th, Stankoven 30th and Nikishin 31st

I mean..... do you expect anyone to take your opinions seriously?

 

[Mrb1p]

what dyou mean by DB? stats watching?

I mean Smith is a top 4 prospect across the board amongst every expert. Hes obviously is doing something right.

And no offense, but for someone to claim others are just "stat watching", and then puts out a widely ridiculed personal Top Prospects list than has Josh Roy 18th, Stankoven 30th and Nikishin 31st

I mean.....

Did you even take the time to look at my list and read my criterias and our the dozens of posts I made? Non? Cest ça j'pensais.

 

[amnesiac]

Did you even take the time to look at my list and read my criterias and our the dozens of posts I made? Non? Cest ça j'pensais.

Oh weve had our debates over the years.... You had the dog avatar.

Lets see your list. Im still waiting.... shouldnt be too hard to copy and paste.

J'attends...

 

[amnesiac]

The thread is in the prospect section.

no words.....

Rank	Name	Draft team	Draft year	2023 ranking	2022 ranking
1	Macklin Celebrini	San Jose	2024	ND	ND
2	Matvei Michkov	Philadelphia	2023	2	ND
3	Ivan Demidov	Montréal	2024	ND	ND
4	Zeev Buium	Minnesota	2024	ND	ND
5	Tij Iginla	Utah	2024	ND	ND
6	Berkley Catton	Seattle	2024	ND	ND
7	Cayden Lindstrom	Colombus	2024	ND	ND
8	David Reinbacher	Montréal	2023	9	ND
9	Jagger Firkus	Seattle	2022	19	24
10	Shane Wright	Seattle	2022	30	2
11	Artyom Levshunov	Chicago	2024	ND	ND
12	Ryan Leonard	Washington	2023	18	ND
13	Will Smith	San Jose	2023	12	ND
14	Cutter Gauthier	Philadelphia (Anaheim)	2022	14	15
15	Lane Hutson	Montreal	2022	32	NR
16	Sam Dickinson	San Jose	2024	ND	ND
17	Denton Mateychuk	Columbus	2022	34	31
18	Joshua Roy	Montreal	2021	43	45
19	Tristan Luneau	Anaheim	2022	44	NR
20	Zayne Parekh	Calgary	2024	ND	ND
21	Jiri Kulich	Buffalo	2022	16	HM
22	Matthew Savoie	Buffalo	2022	18	23
23	Quentin Musty	San Jose	2023	41	ND
24	Matthew Wood	Nashville	2023	11	ND
25	Calum Ritchie	Colorado	2023	NR	ND
26	Connor Geekie	Tampa Bay (Utah)	2022	HM	41
27	Frank Nazar III	Chicago	2022	26	9
28	Ivan Miroshnichenko	Washington	2022	45	HM
29	Danila Yurov	Minnesota	2022	NR	NR
30	Logan Stankoven	Dallas	2021	37	HM
31	Alexander Nikishin	Carolina	2020	23	NR
32	Joakim Kemmel	Nashville	2022	20	30
33	Stian Solberg	Anaheim	2024	ND	ND
34	Mavrik Bourque	Dallas	2020	36	26
35	Jonathan Lekkerimaki	Vancouver	2022	30	22
36	Anton Silayev	New Jersey	2024	ND	ND
37	Beckett Sennecke	Anaheim	2024	ND	ND
38	Nate Danielson	Detroit	2023	31	ND
39	Braden Yager	Pittsburgh	2023	27	ND
40	Gleb Trikozov	Carolina	2022	50	47
41	Seamus Casey	New Jersey	2022	HM	NR
42	Lian Bichsel	Dallas	2022	NR	NR
43	Brad Lambert	Winnipeg	2022	42	HM
44	Carter Yakemchuk	Ottawa	2024	ND	ND
45	Konsta Helenius	Buffalo	2024	ND	ND
46	Dalibor Dvorsky	Saint-Louis	2023	23	ND
47	Andrew Cristall	Washington	2023	24	ND
48	Gabe Perrault	New York Rangers	2023	NR	ND
49	Brennan Othmann	New York Rangers	2021	HM	28
50	Tom Willander	Vancouver	2023	NR	ND

 

[Golden_Jet]

Not sure why no Yamemchuk in list, as OP has listed 4D that were drafted after him as options.

 

[Mrb1p]

no words.....

Rank	Name	Draft team	Draft year	2023 ranking	2022 ranking
1	Macklin Celebrini	San Jose	2024	ND	ND
2	Matvei Michkov	Philadelphia	2023	2	ND
3	Ivan Demidov	Montréal	2024	ND	ND
4	Zeev Buium	Minnesota	2024	ND	ND
5	Tij Iginla	Utah	2024	ND	ND
6	Berkley Catton	Seattle	2024	ND	ND
7	Cayden Lindstrom	Colombus	2024	ND	ND
8	David Reinbacher	Montréal	2023	9	ND
9	Jagger Firkus	Seattle	2022	19	24
10	Shane Wright	Seattle	2022	30	2
11	Artyom Levshunov	Chicago	2024	ND	ND
12	Ryan Leonard	Washington	2023	18	ND
13	Will Smith	San Jose	2023	12	ND
14	Cutter Gauthier	Philadelphia (Anaheim)	2022	14	15
15	Lane Hutson	Montreal	2022	32	NR
16	Sam Dickinson	San Jose	2024	ND	ND
17	Denton Mateychuk	Columbus	2022	34	31
18	Joshua Roy	Montreal	2021	43	45
19	Tristan Luneau	Anaheim	2022	44	NR
20	Zayne Parekh	Calgary	2024	ND	ND
21	Jiri Kulich	Buffalo	2022	16	HM
22	Matthew Savoie	Buffalo	2022	18	23
23	Quentin Musty	San Jose	2023	41	ND
24	Matthew Wood	Nashville	2023	11	ND
25	Calum Ritchie	Colorado	2023	NR	ND
26	Connor Geekie	Tampa Bay (Utah)	2022	HM	41
27	Frank Nazar III	Chicago	2022	26	9
28	Ivan Miroshnichenko	Washington	2022	45	HM
29	Danila Yurov	Minnesota	2022	NR	NR
30	Logan Stankoven	Dallas	2021	37	HM
31	Alexander Nikishin	Carolina	2020	23	NR
32	Joakim Kemmel	Nashville	2022	20	30
33	Stian Solberg	Anaheim	2024	ND	ND
34	Mavrik Bourque	Dallas	2020	36	26
35	Jonathan Lekkerimaki	Vancouver	2022	30	22
36	Anton Silayev	New Jersey	2024	ND	ND
37	Beckett Sennecke	Anaheim	2024	ND	ND
38	Nate Danielson	Detroit	2023	31	ND
39	Braden Yager	Pittsburgh	2023	27	ND
40	Gleb Trikozov	Carolina	2022	50	47
41	Seamus Casey	New Jersey	2022	HM	NR
42	Lian Bichsel	Dallas	2022	NR	NR
43	Brad Lambert	Winnipeg	2022	42	HM
44	Carter Yakemchuk	Ottawa	2024	ND	ND
45	Konsta Helenius	Buffalo	2024	ND	ND
46	Dalibor Dvorsky	Saint-Louis	2023	23	ND
47	Andrew Cristall	Washington	2023	24	ND
48	Gabe Perrault	New York Rangers	2023	NR	ND
49	Brennan Othmann	New York Rangers	2021	HM	28
50	Tom Willander	Vancouver	2023	NR	ND

Am I a Seattle homer too?

 

[Xirik]

Am I a Seattle homer too?

You were a Firkus fanboy before he was in Seattle. I remember you being mad that the Habs took Mesar and Beck instead of him.

 

[wetcoast]

Took Catton add Willander.

 

[Mrb1p]

You were a Firkus fanboy before he was in Seattle. I remember you being mad that the Habs took Mesar and Beck instead of him.

Yes and he's done nothing but back things up.

 

[wetcoast]

what dyou mean by DB? stats watching?

I mean Smith is a top 4 prospect across the board amongst every expert. Hes obviously is doing something right.

And no offense, but for someone to claim others are just "stat watching", and then puts out a widely ridiculed personal Top Prospects list than has Josh Roy 18th, Stankoven 30th and Nikishin 31st

I mean..... do you expect anyone to take your opinions seriously?

The poster has a point as the current poll seems more stats and recency bias driven not an actual scouting analysis and very little context for age.

Sure his list was interesting but given that the current poll list is crowd sourced it's probably going to be more "accurate" but it's still an iffy list.

 

[HanSolo]

they have more goals and are bigger. Thats the difference.

5'11 165 lbs
vs
6'2 189
6'0 192

Perreault should be one of the next ones, though. Wasnt getting many votes.

Leonard and gauthier seem like high floor guys to me, should have a relatively smooth transition to the nhl.

Smith is the most talented….

I feel like perreault is seen as the guy with the most boom/bust…. If he had a 6 instead of a 5 on his height he’d prob jump up a bit…. Also draft stock…. Perreault went a lot later than other 3.

I watched a lot of BC this season (as many Ducks fans did after they got Gauthier) and Perreault clearly has a lot of natural talent but his game, as of today, is the one of the big 4 prospects BC had this past year that needs the most work to translate over and that makes him the hardest to project. That's before you get into his size. From my observations, he was consistently the most mistake prone of the big four at both ends of the ice by a fairly large margin. To me it's less that his place in the draft order inherently works against him and more that this season showed why Smith and Leonard went so much higher than him. He can still be a stud in the NHL but he's got a longer road to get there imo.

 

[amnesiac]

I watched a lot of BC this season (as many Ducks fans did after they got Gauthier) and Perreault clearly has a lot of natural talent but his game, as of today, is the one of the big 4 prospects BC had this past year that needs the most work to translate over and that makes him the hardest to project. That's before you get into his size. From my observations, he was consistently the most mistake prone of the big four at both ends of the ice by a fairly large margin. To me it's less that his place in the draft order inherently works against him and more that this season showed why Smith and Leonard went so much higher than him. He can still be a stud in the NHL but he's got a longer road to get there imo.

thanks for the insight.... wasnt too aware of his "mistakes". Its always hard to compare players who produced a lot on the same team. Who were playing with the better linemates? their physical game? IQ, defense etc

Who was not on he top line, though? Perreault or Gauthier (2C)?

The poster has a point as the current poll seems more stats and recency bias driven not an actual scouting analysis and very little context for age.

Sure his list was interesting but given that the current poll list is crowd sourced it's probably going to be more "accurate" but it's still an iffy list.

every year theres a "recent draftee bias" on the list.... Whats odd about this year's is after the top 2 or 3 its quite close as we know. Picks 4-12 couldve gone in many different ways, which makes it difficult to know where to slot them amongst the other prospects.