HFBoards TOP 50 Prospect Ranking: #19 (closed)

[amnesiac]

That time of year.

Vote for who you think will be the best.

50 NHL GP or less, no goalies

1. Jack Hughes - C		14. Martin Necas - C		27		40
2. Kaapo Kakko - W		15. Noah Dobson - D		28		41
3. Cale Makar - D		16. Adam Boqvist - D		29		42
4. Bowen Byram - D		17. Evan Bouchard - D		30		43
5. Quinn Hughes - D		18. Vasili Podkolzin - W		31		44
6. Alex Turcotte- C		19		32		45
7. Vitali Kravtsov - W		20		33		46
T8. Kirill Kaprizov - W		21		34		47
T8. Kirby Dach - C		22		35		48
10. Cody Glass - C		23		36		49
11. Erik Brannstrom - D		24		37		50
12. Filip Zadina - W		25		38
13. Trevor Zegras - C		26		39

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to add:

Alexandre Texier
Alex Romanov
Jordan Kyrou
Bode Wilde
Timothy Liljegren
Kailer Yamamoto
Filip Hronek
Sam Steel
Nick Suzuki
Ryan Poehling
Sami Niku
Gabe Vilardi
Philippe Myers
Joe Veleno
Owen Tippett
Rasmus Kupari
Elie Tolvanen
Peyton Krebs
Nic Hague
Troy Terry
Max Comtois
Dillon Dube
Cam York
Victor Soderstrom
Cal Foote
Lias Andersson
Alex Newhook​

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[amnesiac]

jesus christ.... within minutes the Oiler homers are voting Broberg.

anyway, still going with Batherson, then Frost, Cozens, Smith, Sandin, Hayton,

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

jesus christ.... within minutes the Oiler homers are voting Broberg.

He was drafted 8th overall...

 

[KlefDown]

jesus christ.... within minutes the Oiler homers are voting Broberg.

he was really good are WJC so he must be a good prospect right?

 

[Polar Bear]

He was drafted 8th overall...

So? Don't think that makes him a superior prospect right now in anyway compared to Smith, Sandin, and others.

 

[amnesiac]

He was drafted 8th overall...

argue all you want, not a single list had him above Cozens and several others.

the consensus average rank from 14 sources have him 14th even! see for yourself

We looked at 14 sources to come up with EOTP’s Consensus NHL Draft Rankings

 

[Hugh Mungus]

Why hasn't cozens gone yet?

 

[Hahahax]

This is nothing more than a stupid homer contest. Proven by 2 guys being on the same team, the younger of them performing as well if not better than the older one most games and still getting less votes. Laughable.

 

[Just Linda]

Yeah, no way Broberg should have nearly as many votes as Smith. I'd even take Sandin, Fabbro, and Brook ahead of him.

He was a reach at the draft floor and a long term prospect, he's nowhere close to being NHL ready and is a high bust potential. It baffles me to see him getting this much false hype.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Why hasn't cozens gone yet?

1. Because there aren't enough Buffalo fans on the main boards homer voting on hyping up their guy
2. Because HF decided, during weeks where nobody was playing hockey, that Cozens was suddenly dropping down the draft rankings

 

[Not Canada Drai]

Bouchard at 17 is a crime.

 

[Polar Bear]

1. Because there aren't enough Buffalo fans on the main boards homer voting on hyping up their guy
2. Because HF decided, during weeks where nobody was playing hockey, that Cozens was suddenly dropping down the draft rankings

I think it's because he's viewed upon by many as having a higher floor but lower upside compared to others ranked in the top 10, and upside>floor is typically valued more online.

 

[cgf]

I like K'Andre, Valimaki, Denisenko & Caufield for these next few spots.

1. Because there aren't enough Buffalo fans on the main boards homer voting on hyping up their guy
2. Because HF decided, during weeks where nobody was playing hockey, that Cozens was suddenly dropping down the draft rankings

And 3. Some of us weren't ever that high on Cozens

 

[Sstroh84]

Voted for Cozens and for the third time please add Alexander Texier.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

Bouchard at 17 is a crime.

Youre right, he should be lower!

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

I like K'Andre, Valimaki, Denisenko & Caufield for these next few spots.


And 3. Some of us weren't ever that high on Cozens

K’Andre has never done a single thing in hockey to be better than Ty Smith minus be bigger and more athletic.

He isnt even ahead of Sandin either

 

[Favin]

Still Batherson, Smith or Denisenko for me...

But may vote to keep someone from zero-vote relegation. Who needs it most?

 

[cgf]

K’Andre has never done a single thing in hockey to be better than Ty Smith minus be bigger and more athletic.

He isnt even ahead of Sandin either

K.

We'll see how Smith's game translates to the highest level, but I don't see anything that will make him special in the NHL. Very solid with his skating & safe-decision making, but I'm not very high on him at all. Whereas K'Andre's potential just pops off the screen...and he took a huge step this past season.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

K.

We'll see how Smith's game translates to the higher level, but I don't see anything that makes him special. Very solid, but I'm not very high on him at all. Whereas K'Andre's potential just pops.

Smith was pre-draft ranked anywhere from the 2nd best dman of his class to where he was drafted, while K’Andre never shot above 15 mostly. Clearly Ty’s potential is a big reason because hes not the size of K’Andre

Ty will make the team this year while K’Andre likely doesnt. Both defenses are weak

 

[cgf]

Smith was pre-draft ranked anywhere from the 2nd best dman of his class to where he was drafted, while K’Andre never shot above 15 mostly. Clearly Ty’s potential is a big reason because hes not the size of K’Andre

Ty will make the team this year while K’Andre likely doesnt. Both defenses are weak

That's nice for him, but I was higher on K'Andre even before his great draft+1; so I couldn't care less about their "consensus" rankings

K'Andre is also much less polished than Smith and plays at a more challenging level; whereas Smith really has little more to gain from the Dub. So it shouldn't surprise anyone that Smith will be turning pro first...but that has little to do with which one will be better in their primes.

 

[RedWingzz]

For the 7th time in a row, Dylan Cozens.

I don't understand the Cozens hate. It was like the guy was all people could talk about, and then in January he started plummeting for what? It's almost like it became a trend, to drop Cozens in draft rankings, just because everyone else was doing it.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Hayton pretty easily for me

Zegras, Cozens, and Boldy would be pretty high up there too. Batherson has impressed the hell out of me as a Sens fan but I am not quite ready to vote him in yet

As an aside, Jacob Bernard-Docker is gonna be better than at least a few of the DMen listed. The impact he had as a freshman D in UofND is pretty unheard of. I am predicting he will be a steady Anton Stralman type player for a long time. Might not have offensive upside beyond 30-40 pts but he will do everything right

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

That's nice for him, but I was higher on K'Andre even before his great draft+1; so I couldn't care less about their "consensus" rankings

K'Andre is also much less polished than Smith and plays at a more challenging level; whereas Smith really has little more to gain from the Dub. So it shouldn't surprise anyone that Smith will be turning pro first...but that has little to do with which one will be better in their primes.

Why would that be? If K’Andre plays in such a stronger league then he should, in theory, make the jump first no?

Ty was the last cut for the Devils last year and the main reason being expansion draft. He was good enough to make the team at 18. I doubt K’Andre made it past the second round of cuts but IDK the specifics.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

OP, can you change my vote from Sandin to Smith, I thought he was already off the board.

Lol at anyone voting for Broberg at this point. Shouldn't even be on the list.

 

[cgf]

Why would that be? If K’Andre plays in such a stronger league then he should, in theory, make the jump first no?

Ty was the last cut for the Devils last year and the main reason being expansion draft. He was good enough to make the team at 18. I doubt K’Andre made it past the second round of cuts but IDK the specifics.

Que? Miller was a lot rawer as a prospect coming out of high school hockey, even after his freshman season he still needs a lot more polish to make the most of his talent, and he's at a level that's better for gaining further polish at...whereas Smith has reached the limit of what the dub can offer him.

Again, why should I care? Development is not linear and plenty of superior players took longer to crack the NHL than other, inferior, players from the same draft. Smith was the better player on draft night, but that doesn't tell us which will be the better player at 23

Or is Girard a better young talent than Makar?