Uberpecker
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Hey Terry, Do Us A Favor and SELL
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Lucky hire of the HC that lead them to Beane, lucked into Allen being as good as he is.
Everything they have done with the Sabres has been the wrong move almost without fail. It is amazing really.
May Day 10
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He is going to allow adams to make more terrible trades and set the franchise back even further. It needs to stop
May Day 10
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McDermott is the perfect personality to deal with pegula, respect him, but also get his way. I think he is a good coach, high floor. Josh Allen though drives this thing and was a lucky pick (i consider hitting on a qb largely luck)
Building an nhl program is much harder and more involved than an nfl team. In the nfl, a coach is the ceo. Drives everything and can turn a roster in 2 years. The thing is very dependent on hitting on a quarterback.
Nhl, coaches are the most disposable element in your org. You need a lot of drafting and developing. You are looking at teens across the globe playing in different leagues, different levels and trying to predict how they will be as adults. Then training them for years. The cap is also unforgiving.
Putting together a hockey team is way more intricate than a football team.
Pegula seems to just wing it and these results are not that shocking
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There's a very long winded answer that I can give but what it boils down to is:
They lucked into McDermott/Beane. Josh was the result of very good scouting and development.
Agreed but Pegula also seemingly gives them all of the resources they need, while the sabres have to penny pinch
It would take a true moron to not make money with an NFL team. They basically print cash.
Jim Bob
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Zucker has been given the opportunity to play a lot more here than he likely would have on a better roster. And the $5M paycheck was a huge factor, as well.
I doubt anyone was offering anything close to $5M on a one year deal.
KeyserSoze81
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Yup, better earnings this year, chance to be traded to a contender, and likely a better contract next year with inflated stats. We really should be a destination for the fringes of the UFA market willing to endure some short term pain for multi-year benefit. You need someone with risk tolerance and work ethic, as you can aways get injured or really Taylor Hall the situation.
I’m not about to sit here and call it luck concerning what he did with the Bills. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Terry doesn’t fancy himself as a football expert so he listens to those that are. With hockey it’s my belief he thinks he knows enough about the game because he was a fan and that makes him dangerous.
If he ran the Sabres like the Bills we wouldn’t be in this mess.
If he ran the Sabres like the Bills we wouldn’t be in this mess.
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HaNotsri
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Lucky hire(s), you can alwtys see the logic with moves made by the Bills. You might not agree but you can understand them.
With Sabres you have to invent a full story to explain the logic but you can always tell it won't end well. I've had zero belief that we'll make the playoffs.
joshjull
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Waiting until mid January ………Translation -> Pegula will wait until everything burns to the ground completely and thoroughly. Then, and only then, will he possibly hold people accountable and do something. Maybe.
I guess it really doesn’t matter at this point. The season is done already.
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He can just hide behind the Bills and pretend he's a smart sports guy.
f*** the Bills and the money train this rank moron rode in on. Praying for a Jacobs family intervention.
CaliSabresfan24
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Every great player that comes through this organization will ask to be traded as long as this incompetent moron owns this team...
Won't be too long till Tage and Dahlin finally throw in the towel.
It has to be infuriating to consistently have pressure on you to make playoffs but you owner CONSTANTLY hires people to GM and coach with zero NHL experience.
Won't be too long till Tage and Dahlin finally throw in the towel.
It has to be infuriating to consistently have pressure on you to make playoffs but you owner CONSTANTLY hires people to GM and coach with zero NHL experience.
Terry might be the most delusional man alive. How, after over a decade of the worst run in franchise history, do you look at how you've been running the organization and not say "maybe I, personally, have been doing something wrong"? I know billionaires are a special breed, but good christ have some f***ing humility. It's time to realize you've been doing it wrong for 10+ years straight and find a new way forward. The lack of self reflection is astonishing.
buffalowing88
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We'd look awfully cool in Longhorns colors if Terry catches that Austin bug again. They're a big market with plenty of transplants from the Northeast.
I mean, I wouldn't root for them, but I'd also be relieved to be done with this situation. Hockey is too fun to be saddled with an Indian burial ground organization. I'll switch to rooting for Winnipeg the moment it happens.
I mean, I wouldn't root for them, but I'd also be relieved to be done with this situation. Hockey is too fun to be saddled with an Indian burial ground organization. I'll switch to rooting for Winnipeg the moment it happens.
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Yes.
Pegula runs a flat management structure in both orgs. Nonody important rolls up to anybody except Pegula. Roles are muddled and anybody can bring him anything and Terry become the arbiter.
It results in Terry always picking sides and making decisions outside of his expertise which would overrule the persons job it is to make that decision.
My theory is that the only reason it works in Oraxhard Park is because:
1. McBeane were brought in at similar times, from the same org, with a working relationship so Terry can’t split the deck.
2. Partially an add on to one, both McBeane see the writing on the wall and they put on a masterclass in office politics and manipulating their boss.
If Terry splits McBeane before one has contractual autonomy from ownership/Terry changes his stripes (lol) I think the Bills are toast just like the Sabres. A few weeks ago he just called himself “a football guy”. Take a look at a team like the Ravens. Bisciotti. He openly runs the entire org with the idea that he’s 100% not a football guy. And they’re one of the most successful and stable orgs in the league.
I think the Bills success has actually emboldened Pegula which is why Kevyn has stick around so long. He views the Sabres like the Bills but they need more time. He understands that in OP McBeane are in lockstep so he’s assembled a team that are also in lockstep. Unfortunately it’s Adams and Forton. Not literally anybody else.
Jim Bob
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May Day 10
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How can a guy who pretends to be a lifelong fan of this team, alloow the franchise to be killed, buried, dug up, desecrated, burned, buried again, dug up, peed on, stepped on, and buried again?
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He's likely failed upward at every other step of his life and can't figure out why it isn't working this time. If he just keeps at it long enough... it'll turn out fine just, like everything else in his life.
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It's like watching BIll Gates -- who had f*** all to do with the development of Windows -- now thinking he can genetically modify mosquitos without considering any second and third order effects while compelling us to eat lab-grown meat as a dietary protocol as he sports a couple of man titties.
Some dumb luck billionaires just can't stay in their lanes.
