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Henrik Lundqvist; will he stay or go?

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MGF0723 said:
You want to see this team really sink down to nothingness? Dump Lundqvist and everyone will be kicking themselves in the ass after.
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we saw a Rangers team without Lundqvist achieve nothing for 7 seasons, yet not suck enough for a top 5 pick. We've seen a Rangers team with Lundqvist achieve 1 ECF appearance in 8 seasons, which, depending on your POV isn't all that much.

While losing Lundqvist would suck, as he's the best goalie in the league, it doesn't automatically equal the years of 'nothingness' that people keep alluding too. As has been mentioned, if his contract requests are too high/too long, losing him will be the right decision, even if we do end up spending a few years down the bottom of the conference
 
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mike14 said:
we saw a Rangers team without Lundqvist achieve nothing for 7 seasons, yet not suck enough for a top 5 pick. We've seen a Rangers team with Lundqvist achieve 1 ECF appearance in 8 seasons, which, depending on your POV isn't all that much.

While losing Lundqvist would suck, as he's the best goalie in the league, it doesn't automatically equal the years of 'nothingness' that people keep alluding too. As has been mentioned, if his contract requests are too high/too long, losing him will be the right decision, even if we do end up spending a few years down the bottom of the conference
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He will get pretty much whatever he asks for. Whether that be a 2 year deal or an 8 year deal for any amount of money up to ~8M/season, the organization will do whatever it can to extend him. He is only going to be "lost" if he wants out of NY.
 
broadwayblue said:
He will get pretty much whatever he asks for. Whether that be a 2 year deal or an 8 year deal for any amount of money up to ~8M/season, the organization will do whatever it can to extend him. He is only going to be "lost" if he wants out of NY.
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I completely agree with this. The Rangers have no choice, but to extend Lundqvist at all costs. We have no one to replace him with and he's been the one carrying the team year after year. If we lost him, we'd be stuck in a pretty bad position and getting out of it could cost more than the extra dollars that would go towards paying Lundqvist.
 
broadwayblue said:
He will get pretty much whatever he asks for. Whether that be a 2 year deal or an 8 year deal for any amount of money up to ~8M/season, the organization will do whatever it can to extend him. He is only going to be "lost" if he wants out of NY.
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I'm confused, you say he'll get whatever he asks for and then say "up to ~8m", which one is it? What if he wants 8.5+?
 
That Stepan Guy said:
I completely agree with this. The Rangers have no choice, but to extend Lundqvist at all costs. We have no one to replace him with and he's been the one carrying the team year after year. If we lost him, we'd be stuck in a pretty bad position and getting out of it could cost more than the extra dollars that would go towards paying Lundqvist.
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I really don't like the idea of giving anyone in this league over the age of 30 an 8-year deal.

How many times have the Rangers done this? How many times has it worked out? Why keep doing it? :shakehead

The Rangers have to hold the line at a 4 year deal (or less) for guys this age. It doesn't matter who it is.
 
Nac Mac Feegle said:
I really don't like the idea of giving anyone in this league over the age of 30 an 8-year deal.

How many times have the Rangers done this? How many times has it worked out? Why keep doing it? :shakehead

The Rangers have to hold the line at a 4 year deal (or less) for guys this age. It doesn't matter who it is.
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Unlike Richards, Gomez, or Redden, Lundqvist is the best at his position. And he has proven he can be the best in NY.
 
Grind Jam Grind said:
Unlike Richards, Gomez, or Redden, Lundqvist is the best at his position. And he has proven he can be the best in NY.
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He is the best right now. But, he's not going to be the best goalie in the league 5, 6, 7, 8 years from now...but the Rangers will still be paying that monster contract.

That is the problem.

Four year deal, yes.
Eight year deal, no!
 
mike14 said:
I'm confused, you say he'll get whatever he asks for and then say "up to ~8m", which one is it? What if he wants 8.5+?
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I'm saying Hank is in the position of being able to (within reason) get whatever deal he wants. If he prefers a short term deal to see what direction a new coach brings them...or a long term deal to make him a lifetime Ranger, he's in control. As for money, yes, there comes a point at which you can't do it. We can't give him an 8 year deal at $10M per. But up to 8M a year for as many years as he wants is a deal the team won't say no to.
 
Nac Mac Feegle said:
I really don't like the idea of giving anyone in this league over the age of 30 an 8-year deal.

How many times have the Rangers done this? How many times has it worked out? Why keep doing it? :shakehead

The Rangers have to hold the line at a 4 year deal (or less) for guys this age. It doesn't matter who it is.
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Except those players have either been injured, already declining, not as good as the contract suggests, or Brad Richards.
 
I don't think Lundqvist will want $10 million, but even if he did, I bet Sather would say yes.
 
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Grind Jam Grind said:
Unlike Richards, Gomez, or Redden, Lundqvist is the best at his position. And he has proven he can be the best in NY.
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He's right...no matter how good he is right now, it would be insanity to give him a large contract that takes a huge cap hit into his late 30's. At some point Sather has to draw the line.
 
Obviously, I love the guy as a player and think he's the best goalie in the game right now. Having said that if he asks for a HUGE contract (8+m over 5+ years) I don't ever, EVER want to hear about him being unhappy with the team around him again. This is the cap NHL. You can't make 10 million dollars and then stomp your feet about the team around you not being good enough.
 
haveandare said:
Obviously, I love the guy as a player and think he's the best goalie in the game right now. Having said that if he asks for a HUGE contract (8+m over 5+ years) I don't ever, EVER want to hear about him being unhappy with the team around him again. This is the cap NHL. You can't make 10 million dollars and then stomp your feet about the team around you not being good enough.
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8mil for 5 years is fine, that's not a huge contract, that's a decent/good contract.
 
Jersey Girl said:
What if he wants $8 million per for eight years?
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I dunno, I don't think anyone would be happy to give him that. I've said it before, if we end up letting Lundqvist walk or trade him, what do we do with the spare cash? We obviously need a LOT of help if we're downgrading from Lundqvist to an average goaltender. I don't see anyone availible worth getting. Do we wait? Do we rebuild? Do we throw money around hoping for the best?
 
Jonimaus said:
I dunno, I don't think anyone would be happy to give him that. I've said it before, if we end up letting Lundqvist walk or trade him, what do we do with the spare cash? We obviously need a LOT of help if we're downgrading from Lundqvist to an average goaltender.
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We need a lot of help WITH Lundqvist in goal...
 
Jersey Girl said:
We need a lot of help WITH Lundqvist in goal...
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We do. But at this given time Lundqvist is by far the best player to throw 8 mil at. In 5 or 6 years, that's probably not true anymore. If we'd have a shot at getting a player like Malkin, I'd be all for testing that out, but the players of his caliber are not availible.
 
Jonimaus said:
We do. But at this given time Lundqvist is by far the best player to throw 8 mil at. In 5 or 6 years, that's probably not true anymore. If we'd have a shot at getting a player like Malkin, I'd be all for testing that out, but the players of his caliber are not availible.
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I'm starting to believe when your team is average like the Rangers, even the best goalie in the league does not make you a contender.
 
Jersey Girl said:
I'm starting to believe when your team is average like the Rangers, even the best goalie in the league does not make you a contender.
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We're not a legit contender. We have an "easier time overachieving(spelling?)" than some teams, but we're still fairly far away from teams like Boston, LA, Chicago and Penguins when they play like they can (in my opinion). But unless we get absolute top tier player that does very well in the playoffs, we're right now far better off with Lundqvist. It's all about if we're willing to possibly (remember, it's all speculations), sacrifice a big cap hit for 2-3 years.
 
Jonimaus said:
We're not a legit contender. We have an "easier time overachieving(spelling?)" than some teams, but we're still fairly far away from teams like Boston, LA, Chicago and Penguins when they play like they can (in my opinion). But unless we get absolute top tier player that does very well in the playoffs, we're right now far better off with Lundqvist. It's all about if we're willing to possibly (remember, it's all speculations), sacrifice a big cap hit for 2-3 years.
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More like eight years
 
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