Henrik Lundqvist - Fan Opinion/Poll on How Should He Be Handled 2019-2021

[Whoot Whoot]

IMO we aren't going to win the cup this year - I am happy to give him his Farewell/Victory Lap as long as it doesn't interfere with the development of the two goalies below him. It can't be forgotten what this man did from 2010-2016 for the team. We kind of let Richter do the same thing.

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[Good Intentions]

IMO we aren't going to win the cup this year - I am happy to give him his Farewell/Victory Lap as long as it doesn't interfere with the development of the two goalies below him. It can't be forgotten what this man did from 2010-2016 for the team. We kind of let Richter do the same thing.

“as long as it doesn’t interfere with the development of the two goalies below him.”

you may need a 101 lesson on why a decision will be forced.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

It all depends on what's going on in Shesterkins mind. If he wants to either play NHL or go home we might be in a jam. If he is ok waiting then let Hank play as the backup next year and offer him a trade at the deadline to a contender and see if he wants it, if he wants to continue playing he will have to accept the trade. So I never voted, I feel he is gonna be here and retire but if he wants another contract he should take a trade, Colorado would be a good spot, maybe Arizona? Either way, he has to take a back seat instead of losing Georgiev, there is no guarantee Shesterkin is better than him, I believe he is, but he hasnt played an nhl game yet.

 

[eco's bones]

IMO we aren't going to win the cup this year - I am happy to give him his Farewell/Victory Lap as long as it doesn't interfere with the development of the two goalies below him. It can't be forgotten what this man did from 2010-2016 for the team. We kind of let Richter do the same thing.

Not sure what you mean by waive NMC in option 2? That's all up to him. The Rangers can't do that on their own. What they can do is buy him out if that's the way they want to go but I don't think that would be a very popular move.

I took option 2 though and it's not just about next year--it should be about this year too. The better goalie should play the most and IMO Georgiev's been the better goalie. I'm not complaining about Henrik today apart from the second goal he was pretty damn good at least until the last two shooters in the shootout. Henrik has played 5 of the last 10 games--the Rangers have one win and today's OT loss for 3 points. Alex also played 5 games (keeping in mind that Henrik went through a stretch of the flu) and won 4 out of 5 including shutouts of the Devils and Golden Knights and stealing the win against the Blue Jackets. I don't think there's any question who has been the better goalie but it still seems to me that the Rangers are deferring to Henrik. When Henrik wins this year he usually gets the next game---sometimes but not necessarily so for Alex.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Not sure what you mean by waive NMC in option 2? That's all up to him. The Rangers can't do that on their own. What they can do is buy him out if that's the way they want to go but I don't think that would be a very popular move.

I took option 2 though and it's not just about next year--it should be about this year too. The better goalie should play the most and IMO Georgiev's been the better goalie. I'm not complaining about Henrik today apart from the second goal he was pretty damn good at least until the last two shooters in the shootout. Henrik has played 5 of the last 10 games--the Rangers have one win and today's OT loss for 3 points. Alex also played 5 games (keeping in mind that Henrik went through a stretch of the flu) and won 4 out of 5 including shutouts of the Devils and Golden Knights and stealing the win against the Blue Jackets. I don't think there's any question who has been the better goalie but it still seems to me that the Rangers are deferring to Henrik. When Henrik wins this year he usually gets the next game---sometimes but not necessarily so for Alex.

Well I tried to type - ask him to waive his NMC but I was out of characters

“as long as it doesn’t interfere with the development of the two goalies below him.”

you may need a 101 lesson on why a decision will be forced.

yes I totally get it - the force of 3 goalies and two slots - I am saying choice one people deal with it with respect to what he his given the team in the past (this obviously means trading one of the two "star" youngsters or asking them for understanding)

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Whatever the hell he wants. He’s earned it and turned this team from a disgrace to a powerhouse for years.

 

[egelband]

Gonna have to rotate the three goalies next year i suppose. They have to have a sit down with everyone involved and make the plan clear, whatever it is.
As for this year I think Shesterkin should definitely get 10-15 games over the last couple months of the season. The Rangers need to know what they have so various decisions can be made.

 

[BKGooner]

Sorry no one is bigger than the team. Hank deserves respect, but the Rangers need to get ready for the next generation.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

I will start by writing that I believe the Ranger won’t make the clinical move due to the almost certain bad press it would bring and would also raise concerns from their players and future UFA’s that the organization is not the class act that the team has been known for in the treatment of their players.
I wish I was tech savvy enough to post a gif of the Character Don Draper from the AMC show Mad Men saying “That’s what’s the money for!”.
Because when Henrik could have taken 7.5 million he held out for more even though he gets a premium for endorsements by playing for the Rangers and the team could have used that money to acquire better players when they were in the hunt for the cup.
So where was his loyalty to the organization, his teammates and us fans.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

The people choosing the option that's not best for the team are Lundqvist fans, not Rangers fans.

 

[Anzi]

Ideally something that works for both him and the team. Retire after this season and rejoin the team in some capacity like Luongo did.

 

[Machinehead]

I would split him and Shesty for next year and move Georgiev.

Goalies are f***ing weird and you wanna make your move before their value goes down.

 

[bobbop]

The best solution would be a self elected retirement or relocation. I would hate to have to treat Henrik Lundqvist like a piece of meat.

With Georgiev performing so well and having such amazing 5 on 5 stats, I can't imaging trading him. He doesn't look to me like a one hit wonder. I'll be content waiting until we have two young established NHL goaltenders before making a substantial trade. That's probably two years down the line.

 

[Chimpradamus]

The people choosing the option that's not best for the team are Lundqvist fans, not Rangers fans.

Brian Leetch all over again, huh? The classic NYR treatment.

 

[stan the caddy]

It's a mess. He should have been traded but he didn't want to be. Let's face it he's a borderline send down to the minors type player at this point. We can't mess around with Shesterkin. If he wants to be a part of this team he's earned it at this point. Lundqvist should be done with the Rangers after this season. Actually, should have happened already.

 

[egelband]

I would split him and Shesty for next year and move Georgiev.

Goalies are ****ing weird and you wanna make your move before their value goes down.

I’m kind of leaning this way too. Henrik would be a great backup and particularly for a team with playoff aspirations as they should have next season. And I would think Georgiev’s value is as high as it will be. I like him a lot but if the Rangers can get a first or package him with Kreider for a good prospect and a first, I’d make the move. Shesterkin would appear to be solid gold.
Of course this all depends on the market. But we’re talking “ideal” situations and I think you’ve got it.

 

[egelband]

The best solution would be a self elected retirement or relocation. I would hate to have to treat Henrik Lundqvist like a piece of meat.

With Georgiev performing so well and having such amazing 5 on 5 stats, I can't imaging trading him. He doesn't look to me like a one hit wonder. I'll be content waiting until we have two young established NHL goaltenders before making a substantial trade. That's probably two years down the line.

I think this is kind of the second best option. I’d love to get a haul for Georgiev at max value and keep Henrik for another year or two as the true backup with the potential for another playoff run or two (as backup, but still) I’m a Rangers uni. There are also some other good prospects in the pipeline so it wouldn’t hurt to open up a spot. But Henrik bowing out gracefully is another good outcome. The Rangers would have ridiculously good goaltending. Maybe an embarrassment of riches in that case.

 

[eco's bones]

FWIW Shesterkin has been hyped for a long time but KHL and AHL numbers are not NHL numbers. He may get to where Alex is now but he's yet to prove it for real. I do not value him over Alex at least not until he shows he can do the same (or better) as Alex at the NHL level. He's kind of caught in a Catch 22 situation. Using Alex as a throw in in a trade or trading him for less than he's worth would be a huge mistake IMO. If the Rangers do decide to move Alex the Rangers need to settle in their minds what the return should be and not waver from getting it. He is starting goaltender material and put him on one of the better teams in the league and I think that team would be even better. He's the real deal.

All that said Henrik is playing pretty well----he's just not playing as well as Alex is and Alex is getting a greater share of wins and Henrik the greater share of losses. That points to playing Alex more.......and for now that kind of leaves Igor out in the cold. Without an injury to either Henrik or Alex there is really no good reason for bringing Igor up particularly if the Rangers are hanging around for a playoff spot.

 

[SnowFort]

It’s really, really hard. With the exception of scratching him, you can’t force Lundqvist to do anything. And I’m not sure he has deserved to be forced into something.

At the same time, a Shesterkin and Georgiev tandem might be the best possible future for us right now. If you had the chance to keep and develop them both, I mean why wouldn’t you want that? If they both become stars you probably have to choose between them at some point, but that should be done with extreme caution and patience.

I would like to give Shesterkin some NHL games soon. The Rangers can’t make a decision without seeing what he’s got.

 

[Uncle Sid]

FWIW Shesterkin has been hyped for a long time but KHL and AHL numbers are not NHL numbers. He may get to where Alex is now but he's yet to prove it for real. I do not value him over Alex at least not until he shows he can do the same (or better) as Alex at the NHL level. He's kind of caught in a Catch 22 situation. Using Alex as a throw in in a trade or trading him for less than he's worth would be a huge mistake IMO. If the Rangers do decide to move Alex the Rangers need to settle in their minds what the return should be and not waver from getting it. He is starting goaltender material and put him on one of the better teams in the league and I think that team would be even better. He's the real deal.

All that said Henrik is playing pretty well----he's just not playing as well as Alex is and Alex is getting a greater share of wins and Henrik the greater share of losses. That points to playing Alex more.......and for now that kind of leaves Igor out in the cold. Without an injury to either Henrik or Alex there is really no good reason for bringing Igor up particularly if the Rangers are hanging around for a playoff spot.

Whenever I go over all of the different possible outcomes of this situation, I always seem to circle back to your point in bold. Ideally, it would be nice to get a look at Shesterkin this year for a few games. Even if it’s somewhere in the ball park of 5-10 games, though it’s a small sample size, it would at least make this whole picture a little more clear.

 

[NYRfan11]

The Rangers need to tell Hank that they will be buying him out at the end of the year. I know he's Hank, but they did it with Girardi, Richards, Drury, etc. Then they need to say the alternative is, we can trade you to a team like SJ and pick up half your dollars (so that he think it's a realistic possibility that someone like SJ would actually trade for him). That will be the only way he might agree to waive his NMC. And then do it - trade him and pick up half his salary.

 

[howztheglass]

With the way Georgiev has been playing he should start most games. Hank can play the second night of back to back games unless Georgiev goes into a tail spin.

Part of me feels like Hank was OK last week watching Georgiev--yeah he was sick and had a minor injury but at this stage of his career maybe even he sees the hand writing on the wall.

Now I have al of the love in the world for what Hank did and has done for our team but he's in his glory years not the start of his career so hopefully he doesn't block the kids and make the Rangers choose the hard road.

Hopefully Hank choose the Ray Bourque way playing his career with one team then moving when he had a chance at the cup--last year I thought 2 teams would offer him this--St Louis and Colorado.

Colorado reminds me so much of the Roy situation very good team that at the time went out and got a great goaltender--yes Roy wanted out of Montreal but maybe Hank sees the same oportunity.

In the end I still think the Rangers will have to move Georgiev but personally like many I hope that this does not happen.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

People talking about getting a haul for Georgiev have to realise he doesnt have as much of a track record as Talbot did at that point and we didnt get much for him. The other issue is that the last two goalies we traded out of here haven't been near as good once they left Allaire so teams are likely hesitant to give much for the next one. We need to ride this out, keep both Georgiev and Shesterkin.
I still believe Hank will take the trade route once he realizes they arent resigning him in NY I think he will move on, I doubt he wants to stop playing. One of the teams in close proximity to NY would make most sense to Hank I'm sure. Buffalo or NJ maybe.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Brian Leetch all over again, huh? The classic NYR treatment.

This is a business not a charity.

 

[Inferno]

Henrik needs to be the backup. He's just flat out not the best goalie we have. That's it. He may (emphasis on may) be the 3rd best goalie, but he's definitely not the best goalie. Just like when Weekes was getting inexplicable starts over Henrik.its not Henrik getting inexplicable starts over georgiev.

50 32 split this season...next season shesterkin comes up and it's more like 45 (georgiev) 25 (shesty) 12 (Henrik)