Player Discussion: Hellebuyck for Hart

Yeah I mean there isn't a clear-cut best forward so I could see it, just seems unlikely as the voters hate voting for goalies

Yup. It is a bias that doesn't really stand up - beyond a certain point. I mean, goalie is the most influential single position so you expect the best teams' goalies to be near to being their team's MVPs. But that expectation shouldn't disqualify a goalie who has had a truly exceptional season.

I've even heard some of the talking heads point out that goalies have their own trophy (not recently, can't quote anyone), the Vezina. Don't skaters also have the Ross, the Rocket and the Norris?
 
Yup. It is a bias that doesn't really stand up - beyond a certain point. I mean, goalie is the most influential single position so you expect the best teams' goalies to be near to being their team's MVPs. But that expectation shouldn't disqualify a goalie who has had a truly exceptional season.

I've even heard some of the talking heads point out that goalies have their own trophy (not recently, can't quote anyone), the Vezina. Don't skaters also have the Ross, the Rocket and the Norris?
ross and rocket aren't voting trophies. it's not the same.
 
Helly deserves it, I don't think he gets it.

I'm on the fence.
He clearly deserves it, IMO. Not sure the voters will see it though.

If he played for the Leafs he would already have the trophy on the shelf in his man cave. They wouldn't even go through the formality of waiting till the season ended.
 
I know we already have a Hellebuyck thread, but I think this topic deserves its own thread.

I'll start it off with a link to a Garret Hohl evaluation of the question. I know some of you don't like Garret. Go ahead and argue against him. Argue that Helle should not win the Hart this year.

A case for Connor Hellebuyck for Hart
Ummm…

okay.

Helle should 100% win the Heart!

wait.., I came in here for an argument!

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