Player Discussion: Heinola Thread

[Crocket]

It's hard to express what a tragedy that injury was for Heinola. Boweness and Chevy were licking their lips at his play in camp, certainly he was going to be given a shot. It's a major setback, but hopefully with Youth on his side, he gets back on the ice in a couple months, gets a good recovery and will play in about 12 weeks.

 

[BoneDocUK]

It's hard to express what a tragedy that injury was for Heinola. Boweness and Chevy were licking their lips at his play in camp, certainly he was going to be given a shot. It's a major setback, but hopefully with Youth on his side, he gets back on the ice in a couple months, gets a good recovery and will play in about 12 weeks.

Absolutely awful but I'd guess that Ville has earned plenty of goodwill with his prep and work in TC, and will be given some rope to work his way back into the lineup once healthy should there be a spot.

It seems to have presented as a "clean" injury, generally would expect few complications for an athlete of his age and conditioning so here's hoping.

But yeah, just brutal timing.

 

[surixon]

Absolutely awful but I'd guess that Ville has earned plenty of goodwill with his prep and work in TC, and will be given some rope to work his way back into the lineup once healthy should there be a spot.

It seems to have presented as a "clean" injury, generally would expect few complications for an athlete of his age and conditioning so here's hoping.

But yeah, just brutal timing.

Add to the fact that Schmidt hasn't been great and there will be an opportunity afforded to him.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Any update on the return of the Heinie.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Any updates? I haven't heard anything....

 

[None]

Any updates? I haven't heard anything....

Began skating a few days ago but Bowness said he was still "a ways away," in the first media availability right after.

 

[ps241]

Began skating a few days ago but Bowness said he was still "a ways away," in the first media availability right after.

Nice to see him on the Ice at least.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

I'm thinking mid January earliest

 

[Atoyot]

I'm thinking mid January earliest

He's skating after an ankle injury, usually doesn't take 5+ weeks beyond that point. He'll likely be on the Moose around Christmas.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Thanks. I hadn’t heard anything

 

[Bob E]

Winnipeg Jets head coach Rick Bowness indicates Ville Heinola and Rasmus Kupari are “a long ways away from playing” – Illegal Curve Hockey

An update on the pair of injured Finns from the Jets bench boss.

illegalcurve.com

I would think they need time to get their strength back and into game condition. An early January return seems plausible.

 

[Jet]

Winnipeg Jets head coach Rick Bowness indicates Ville Heinola and Rasmus Kupari are “a long ways away from playing” – Illegal Curve Hockey

An update on the pair of injured Finns from the Jets bench boss.

illegalcurve.com

I would think they need time to get their strength back and into game condition. An early January return seems plausible.

The fact that they're both taking light contact is encouraging

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Winnipeg Jets head coach Rick Bowness indicates Ville Heinola and Rasmus Kupari are “a long ways away from playing” – Illegal Curve Hockey

An update on the pair of injured Finns from the Jets bench boss.

illegalcurve.com

I would think they need time to get their strength back and into game condition. An early January return seems plausible.

Does he play a week in th AHL?

 

[KingBogo]

Does he play a week in th AHL?

My guess is he spends at least sometime in the AHL, especially as it doesn't even need to be labeled a conditioning stint since he is waiver exempt. Chevy also needs to move out a defenseman or risk losing 1 on waivers once Heinola is added to the Jets roster.

 

[cneely]

I know things are going well, and you don't want to rock the boat, but any update on Heinola (or Kupari for that matter)?

I feel like Heinola earned at least a shot with his play during training camp and it would suck to lose that to injury. I expect he might be getting close to a conditioning stint with the Moose?

 

[DRW204]

I know things are going well, and you don't want to rock the boat, but any update on Heinola (or Kupari for that matter)?

I feel like Heinola earned at least a shot with his play during training camp and it would suck to lose that to injury. I expect he might be getting close to a conditioning stint with the Moose?

Heinola and Kupari are traveling with the team and practicing in regular jerseys.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Heinola and Kupari are traveling with the team and practicing in regular jerseys.

Is Kupari waiver eligible?

 

[Gm0ney]

Is Kupari waiver eligible?

He'd need to clear to be sent down unless it's a conditioning stint.

 

[Huffer]

Great news on both Heinola and Kupari. You would think a few conditioning games in the AHL would make sense (know player needs to agree).

Really gives the team the kind of problem you love to have. You're winning, guys are playing well (have to admit the 4th line with Toni is playing well, and Schmidt and Samberg are playing solid), and 2 guys you originally had planned to be in your lineup are coming back from injury.

Will be interesting to see how they handle it.

 

[Buffdog]

I'm not sure how you can mess with our pairings with how well we've been defending... at the start of the year Nate wasn't playing well but I can't member the last time he's been on the ice for a 5v5 goal against

 

[Flair Hay]

I'm not sure how you can mess with our pairings with how well we've been defending... at the start of the year Nate wasn't playing well but I can't member the last time he's been on the ice for a 5v5 goal against

Yeah I think you let Ville ride with the Moose and if someone gets hurt then you pluck him right up and into the lineup. Otherwise, no need to rush him in after a tough injury like that when he hasn't been a full time NHLer yet.

 

[KingBogo]

Great news on both Heinola and Kupari. You would think a few conditioning games in the AHL would make sense (know player needs to agree).

Really gives the team the kind of problem you love to have. You're winning, guys are playing well (have to admit the 4th line with Toni is playing well, and Schmidt and Samberg are playing solid), and 2 guys you originally had planned to be in your lineup are coming back from injury.

Will be interesting to see how they handle it.

Only Kupari has to agree, as Heinola is still waiver exempt and can be sent down as soon is he is cleared to play.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Only Kupari has to agree, as Heinola is still waiver exempt and can be sent down as soon is he is cleared to play.

Worst luck ever.

 

[KingBogo]

Worst luck ever.

It would be hard to imagine the kid having worse luck.

 

[Crocket]

The size thing is an interesting argument because some players are not necessarily large in stature but exceptionally strong and durable.

I'd argue Pionk is more "physical" than Stanley in some ways, finishes his checks, ties guys up etc.
Others like Makar and Morrissey are medium size but exceptional skaters, very strong and have high hockey IQ.
Scott Stevens isn't even big by today's standards but he sure was physical. Hedman, massive but also high IQ and skilled.

Some of the hardest hitters have been small players, forward and Defence; Peca, Clark, Dallas Drake, tootoo, Mike Richards, Stevens, Mike Eagles, Igor Ulanov (couple Jets 1.0 in there for the kids) etc.

The real question is, with any player is, does he have that dawg in him?