Proposal: Hearing He'd Been Traded, Gallagher's Biggest Fan Kreider Eyes Out: MTL + NYR

Perennial

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To Montreal: Kreider

To New York: Gallagher


Just seems to balance out each team's lineup...

Both guys are signed through 2027 with identical cap hits

Gallagher is a year younger

Both players offer nearly identical production over their careers...

Kreider
179 goals, 348 points, 575 games

Gallagher
187 goals, 357 points, 584 games
 
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bernmeister

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To Montreal: Kreider

To New York: Gallagher

Just seems to balance out each team's lineup...

Both guys are signed through 2027 with identical cap hits

Gallagher is a year younger

disagree w/premise in bold
Kreider adds a beast factor
nobody other than Kakko, who is still arriving, may offer

also Kreider has a NMC at present and him waiving and going almost anywhere is highly unlikely
 

Perennial

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disagree w/premise in bold
Kreider adds a beast factor
nobody other than Kakko, who is still arriving, may offer

also Kreider has a NMC at present and him waiving and going almost anywhere is highly unlikely

I meant more in terms of RW vs LW...

Rangers are stacked on the left side, Habs are stacked on the right
 

Perennial

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sure, let's trade the guy we just extended and also happens to be the heart and soul of our forwards

The heart and the soul? That's a lot of responsibility and pressure for just one guy!

Maybe get a heart forward, or a soul forward, so Gallagher doesn't have to fill both roles...
 
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bernmeister

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The Rangers would be getting a player with nearly identical production at a position of greater need...

Seems like enough of a reason to me

to repeat, scoring is not everything
Gallagher is a regular guy
to his credit he has zero quit and is very tough to play against

but Kreider brings the beast factor
along with his nmc

if no nmc + NY had another 2 Kakkos, maybe then you gamble, speaking theoretically
but they can't just give up his toughness + speed right now
or anytime soon
 

SML2

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Historically, the shelf life of undersized heart and soul forwards in this league is not long. They age like milk, not wine. I will roll with the 220 lb guy with rocket speed if I had to choose between the two.
As they say on Shark Tank, "I'm out."
 

SlafCaufield

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To Montreal: Kreider

To New York: Gallagher


Just seems to balance out each team's lineup...

Both guys are signed through 2027 with identical cap hits

Gallagher is a year younger

Both players offer nearly identical production over their careers...

Kreider
179 goals, 348 points, 575 games

Gallagher
187 goals, 357 points, 584 games
lol Gallagher is better,, no way we do this
 

Perennial

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not much to figure out here,, Gallagher is younger and puts up more points

They have identical career PPG averages

Both average .61

Although, if you want to be precise...

Gallagher averages .611
Kreider is at .605

So, Gallagher averages about half a point more per 82 games


Advantage Gallagher!
 
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Barnaby

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I don’t love the Kreider contract but I like the Gallagher contract even less. I think Kreider has better odds of maintaining his current level for longer just based on his build and fitness level. If you told me Gallagher AAV was a bit less and a couple years shorter then I might’ve been interested. I could see Gallagher’s future trajectory being problematic similar to a guy like Callahan.
 
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Barnaby

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Gallagher is better all around so it really doesnt matter

Their scoring rates are practically identical. Gallagher is 5’9. Kreider is 6’3. Kreider is built much better for longevity. Kreider is only 13 months older. Kreider has been more much more effective in the playoffs to date. I think it’s reasonable to think Kreider will age better given his physical attributes. You can disagree. You can like Gallagher more. That’s fine. To act like Gallagher is flatly the better player is foolish.
 

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