GDT: Hcanes @ Bhawks or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Martin Necas

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I’ve been slower on the uptake than almost everyone here on Kochetkov. I’m starting to come around to the notion of us having a future starter here. I always thought he was too out of control to be an everyday starter, but there does seem to be a method to the madness in his two starts this year. The concern with guys like that isn’t the ability to make the big save but the ability to make every save he’s supposed to. I’ve been especially impressed the last two games with his ability to fight through traffic and stay big while still making the “unorthodox” save. He’s got the flexibility to get into a somewhat unorthodox butterfly that covers the entire bottom of the net when traffic gets messy in front, and that allowed him to make some impressive saves on “hack and whack” chances for Chicago in the 1st that I don’t think a lot of goalies save. I’m impressed and I’ll let myself get excited about a goalie prospect.

(I do refuse to call him “Koochie.”)
 

Nikishin Go Boom

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I’ve been slower on the uptake than almost everyone here on Kochetkov. I’m starting to come around to the notion of us having a future starter here. I always thought he was too out of control to be an everyday starter, but there does seem to be a method to the madness in his two starts this year. The concern with guys like that isn’t the ability to make the big save but the ability to make every save he’s supposed to. I’ve been especially impressed the last two games with his ability to fight through traffic and stay big while still making the “unorthodox” save. He’s got the flexibility to get into a somewhat unorthodox butterfly that covers the entire bottom of the net when traffic gets messy in front, and that allowed him to make some impressive saves on “hack and whack” chances for Chicago in the 1st that I don’t think a lot of goalies save. I’m impressed and I’ll let myself get excited about a goalie prospect.

(I do refuse to call him “Koochie.”)
He is unorthodox but extremely athletic. If we can clean up the initial mechanics / positioning l, that athleticism will can carry him to great heights. Keeping his glove up is the number one habit to break with him. As he follows the puck with his eyes, his glove starts drifting forward and rotating down. He wants to attack the puck and his body position changes to reflect it. Him and his glove leaning forward to attack the puck makes him smaller. Guys shoot to fast in the league to recover.

As more and more tape is out on him, teams will begin abusing the aggressiveness. He just has to fix that habit.
 

Discipline Daddy

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I’ve been slower on the uptake than almost everyone here on Kochetkov. I’m starting to come around to the notion of us having a future starter here. I always thought he was too out of control to be an everyday starter, but there does seem to be a method to the madness in his two starts this year. The concern with guys like that isn’t the ability to make the big save but the ability to make every save he’s supposed to. I’ve been especially impressed the last two games with his ability to fight through traffic and stay big while still making the “unorthodox” save. He’s got the flexibility to get into a somewhat unorthodox butterfly that covers the entire bottom of the net when traffic gets messy in front, and that allowed him to make some impressive saves on “hack and whack” chances for Chicago in the 1st that I don’t think a lot of goalies save. I’m impressed and I’ll let myself get excited about a goalie prospect.

(I do refuse to call him “Koochie.”)
I think most fans soured on him a little bit after he looked awful against the Rangers at the very end of our playoff run this summer. The confidence wasn't there. He looked small. He wasn't half the player he was when we beat the Rags to clinch the Metro at the end of the regular season.

Nevertheless, his overall body of work in the NHL is really impressive thus far. He's also nothing like Canes goalies of old. He is about as far removed from a Cam Ward as you can get. He's a scrambler of the Petr Mrazek or Hasek school, but with his size he covers much more of the net. Stylistically I'd love to hear a better comparison from one of you.

I think Kochetkov is cementing his ticket here next year as a starter or backup. I love Raanta but the man is too injured. Freddie Andersen is also oft-injured so we're in a pickle there. Also, Freddie might want more term or more dollar than the Borg will give. I think 2 years of Freddie tandem-ing with Kochetkov is ideal. I'm not sure we'll find a better goalie next year in free agency than Andersen, warts and all.

We don't yet know we have a sure thing, but it's looking promising.
 

A Star is Burns

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I’ve been slower on the uptake than almost everyone here on Kochetkov. I’m starting to come around to the notion of us having a future starter here. I always thought he was too out of control to be an everyday starter, but there does seem to be a method to the madness in his two starts this year. The concern with guys like that isn’t the ability to make the big save but the ability to make every save he’s supposed to. I’ve been especially impressed the last two games with his ability to fight through traffic and stay big while still making the “unorthodox” save. He’s got the flexibility to get into a somewhat unorthodox butterfly that covers the entire bottom of the net when traffic gets messy in front, and that allowed him to make some impressive saves on “hack and whack” chances for Chicago in the 1st that I don’t think a lot of goalies save. I’m impressed and I’ll let myself get excited about a goalie prospect.

(I do refuse to call him “Koochie.”)
I've been slow as well, and I'll still remain cautious until we see much more from him. At times, he's reminded me of Ned. But he seems less prone to over handling the puck and with Ned, I always thought he had a habit of making every save look amazing. Sometimes you just need to make a routine save. Pyotr did a lot of that last night.

He can still get a little too chaotic at times, but he was much better about that last night than even his previous game. Hopefully, he can keep this up.
 

HisIceness

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Couple of notes.

Happy for the Kooch. I'm still trying to figure out if he's truly the goaltender of the future but at least we have something promising.

Lajoie was decent I suppose.

We give up too many SH chances on the PP. Gotta clean that shit up.

I wish we could play at the United Center more than once a season because this team is money there, its not always like tonight but they don't f*** around there. Even in the Blackhawks dynasty years it was generally kind to us. Hell Scott Darling probably had his best game as a Hurricane in that building.

So 2 points in the bank :cool: Now go get revenge on the Champs
 

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I’ve been slower on the uptake than almost everyone here on Kochetkov. I’m starting to come around to the notion of us having a future starter here. I always thought he was too out of control to be an everyday starter, but there does seem to be a method to the madness in his two starts this year. The concern with guys like that isn’t the ability to make the big save but the ability to make every save he’s supposed to. I’ve been especially impressed the last two games with his ability to fight through traffic and stay big while still making the “unorthodox” save. He’s got the flexibility to get into a somewhat unorthodox butterfly that covers the entire bottom of the net when traffic gets messy in front, and that allowed him to make some impressive saves on “hack and whack” chances for Chicago in the 1st that I don’t think a lot of goalies save. I’m impressed and I’ll let myself get excited about a goalie prospect.

(I do refuse to call him “Koochie.”)
I think glove-side high is still a problem for him (admittedly for a lot of goalies). I've noticed during games that his glove drifts downward. If he can correct that, I think he as potential.
 

Boom Boom Apathy

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I’ve been slower on the uptake than almost everyone here on Kochetkov. I’m starting to come around to the notion of us having a future starter here. I always thought he was too out of control to be an everyday starter, but there does seem to be a method to the madness in his two starts this year. The concern with guys like that isn’t the ability to make the big save but the ability to make every save he’s supposed to. I’ve been especially impressed the last two games with his ability to fight through traffic and stay big while still making the “unorthodox” save. He’s got the flexibility to get into a somewhat unorthodox butterfly that covers the entire bottom of the net when traffic gets messy in front, and that allowed him to make some impressive saves on “hack and whack” chances for Chicago in the 1st that I don’t think a lot of goalies save. I’m impressed and I’ll let myself get excited about a goalie prospect.

(I do refuse to call him “Koochie.”)

I agree with all this. My caveat is that I want to see how he does once teams have a larger sample size to scout out his tendencies. That's where any deficiencies in mechanics will really hurt. I'm cautiously optimistic though.
 
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surfzone365

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Kooch has long-term goalie implications surrounding him. I think we have found our anchor for the future. I’m liking what I see more and more.
 
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spockBokk

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Hopefully RBA starts Kochetkov tomorrow. I think how he fares against that team would be interesting.

Also, I’m disappointed they sent LaJoie down already. He was not noticeable last night, which for the 3rd pairing lately, is an excellent performance.
 

CanesUltimate11

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Hopefully RBA starts Kochetkov tomorrow. I think how he fares against that team would be interesting.

Also, I’m disappointed they sent LaJoie down already. He was not noticeable last night, which for the 3rd pairing lately, is an excellent performance.
Maybe it's simply a paper transaction since they don't play till Thursday?
 

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