Post-Game Talk: HC 5 - Jets 2

[Gm0ney]

It's because the sad sacks have less to post about. If we lose to the Avs don't worry a 3 game losing streak will help

Wouldn't the sad sacks have more to post about after an awful game?

I think the game was so unequivocally bad that there's not really any debate to fire up the back and forth posts.

Plus it was a late game and I haven't even had a chance to watch it - and what a moribund place this board is without me chiming in!

 

[RustyCat]

The Jets played a shity game, one in a row, if we played another 6 or 7 in a row like that then i would be concerned. I have read many opposing coach's rave about the Jets after playing against them this season so i will take last night as a bad night and move on to the next game. People think they can't be critical about the Jets on here, absolutely they can but after 1 bad game saying this is who this team is, that's a little goofy. That's like saying after 1 good game we are winning the Cup , no different to me.

Exactly. And our previous recent loss were versus Calgary where we ran into a hot goaltender and to LA where the team played extremely well but just came up shy. And throughout that our wins have been really good. We are allowed a shitty one now and then, so I am with you on this. The team has been pretty good lately so I give this game a pass. If it keeps up, then we may have an issue

 

[raideralex99]

Jets have played 48 games so lets do 12 game stretches.
11-1 ..... ..917
7-5 ....... .583
7-4-1 .... .625
6-4-2 ... .583
Last Wild Card team as of right now has .543 winning percentage (East) and .567 (West)
And according to stats the Jets should have won the last 2 games too.
Seriously I don't know why it has to be doom and gloom every time the Jets lose ... its not the playoffs?

 

[Moloch]

Anyone know when chevy is doing his mid year media scrum?

 

[gojetsgo]

Anyone know when chevy is doing his mid year media scrum?

today or tomorrow in denver, it was delayed due to him being on the road scouting teams

 

[Ponds]

An important question is not being asked here.

Is Scott Arniel the type of guy to flip a table over when he blows his stack? I think so, and I love a good table flip, me.

If the Jets media team have footage of him in the act, I hope they air it on the next episode of Runway. They could title it "Flipping Out" or "Uns-table".

Some notable moments in table flipping history include:

Jesus in the tabernacle.

Danny Glover in Angels in the Outfield.

Jules Winnfield in Pulp Fiction.

What I love even more than a table flip though, is a fully stocked China cabinet being toppled over. An act of destruction way more breathtaking, but much less utilized. Largely due to the scarcity of finding a China cabinet in everyday situations compared to a table. They're usually pretty heavy too, so bringing one to the ground takes some real gumption.

It's highly unlikely to see one in an NHL dressing room these days.

I suppose tipping over a vending machine could be considered the modern day equivalent, but there's something so corporate about it. A bunch of Pepsi gets spilled out on the floor, a few cans explode. Seems fun enough, but PepsiCo just writes it off.

Nothing compares to decade old glass trinkets and ceramic plates smashing to bits, inside a cabinet that has been passed down for generations.

If you really want to send a message to a group of lazy hockey players, I reckon there's no better way.

 

[Guardian17]

 

[voyageur]

An important question is not being asked here.

Is Scott Arniel the type of guy to flip a table over when he blows his stack? I think so, and I love a good table flip, me.

If the Jets media team have footage of him in the act, I hope they air it on the next episode of Runway. They could title it "Flipping Out" or "Uns-table".

Some notable moments in table flipping history include:

Jesus in the tabernacle.
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Danny Glover in Angels in the Outfield.
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Jules Winnfield in Pulp Fiction.
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What I love even more than a table flip though, is a fully stocked China cabinet being toppled over. An act of destruction way more breathtaking, but much less utilized. Largely due to the scarcity of finding a China cabinet in everyday situations compared to a table. They're usually pretty heavy too, so bringing one to the ground takes some real gumption.

It's highly unlikely to see one in an NHL dressing room these days.

I suppose tipping over a vending machine could be considered the modern day equivalent, but there's something so corporate about it. A bunch of Pepsi gets spilled out on the floor, a few cans explode. Seems fun enough, but PepsiCo just writes it off.

Nothing compares to decade old glass trinkets and ceramic plates smashing to bits, inside a cabinet that has been passed down for generations.

If you really want to send a message to a group of lazy hockey players, I reckon there's no better way.

Both Bones and Tom Mc Vie at least had attacking an opposing player on their resume. That gets your teams attention, also coaches like Demers or Patrick Roy who tried attacking the opposing coach.

Mike Keenan withholding pizza from the locker room, and his psychological warfare, combined with Marc Crawford's physical attacks on players might be too extreme now.

Coaches nowadays can only take ice time away, that's the message you can work with. And it's not a good idea to attack star players if you want to keep your job.



I'm not sure a loss to Utah will flip the switch.

 

[Buffdog]

An important question is not being asked here.

Is Scott Arniel the type of guy to flip a table over when he blows his stack? I think so, and I love a good table flip, me.

If the Jets media team have footage of him in the act, I hope they air it on the next episode of Runway. They could title it "Flipping Out" or "Uns-table".

Some notable moments in table flipping history include:

Jesus in the tabernacle.
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Danny Glover in Angels in the Outfield.
View attachment 964863

Jules Winnfield in Pulp Fiction.
View attachment 964864

What I love even more than a table flip though, is a fully stocked China cabinet being toppled over. An act of destruction way more breathtaking, but much less utilized. Largely due to the scarcity of finding a China cabinet in everyday situations compared to a table. They're usually pretty heavy too, so bringing one to the ground takes some real gumption.

It's highly unlikely to see one in an NHL dressing room these days.

I suppose tipping over a vending machine could be considered the modern day equivalent, but there's something so corporate about it. A bunch of Pepsi gets spilled out on the floor, a few cans explode. Seems fun enough, but PepsiCo just writes it off.

Nothing compares to decade old glass trinkets and ceramic plates smashing to bits, inside a cabinet that has been passed down for generations.

If you really want to send a message to a group of lazy hockey players, I reckon there's no better way.

I think in a hockey locker room you have to settle for a good old garbage can kick/throw. I've been witness to (and probably the inspiration for) a few of those

Wrecking the stick rack is another option

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

I feel like there's some serious gaslighting going on here. Are people pretending not to know about things like trends, or, is this just a misunderstanding? What am I missing here

Wear an onion on your belt. Its the latest thing.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

There is basically only one team playing perfect hockey right now and its Washington.
Vegas looked unstoppable 2 weeks ago and now they've lost like 4 straight.
LA looked unstoppable 2 weeks ago and now theyve lost 4 of their last 5.
Schedule doesn't get much easier from here on out and even if we play .500 we'll still most likely make the playoffs. I just want everyone to be healthy for when that time comes.

No recalls from the moose bodes well for Lowry but nothing is certain

Caps have had by far the easiest sched lately and still lost to very bad teams...

 

[snowkiddin]

The Jets played a shity game, one in a row, if we played another 6 or 7 in a row like that then i would be concerned. I have read many opposing coach's rave about the Jets after playing against them this season so i will take last night as a bad night and move on to the next game. People think they can't be critical about the Jets on here, absolutely they can but after 1 bad game saying this is who this team is, that's a little goofy. That's like saying after 1 good game we are winning the Cup , no different to me.

The last time they played six or seven in a row like this it was the schedule’s fault, though, and people were still admonished for being critical.

I think there are reasons to be critical and reasons to be optimistic right now, so whatever your stance, have at ‘er.

All of this is noise until the playoffs for me, anyway.

 

[White Out 902]

So only teams who have won the cup in the past will have playoff success? Before the Avs won, they were known as playoff failures who hadn’t made it past the second round in 15+ years.

No it means those teams can struggle and won't be questioned as readily because they're proven winners.

 

[blueandgoldguy]

Let's give the boys a break as they were probably a little tired from partying. Many a man has fallen victim to the bright lights and temptations of Salt Lake City. They don't call it Vegas Lite for nothin' you know.

 

[Moloch]

Let's give the boys a break as they were probably a little tired from partying. Many a man has fallen victim to the bright lights and temptations of Salt Lake City. They don't call it Vegas Lite for nothin' you know.

haha it would explain why 75% of our players seemed off last night.

 

[KingBogo]

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The Avs are not a great example as they were known as the playoff choke team for many years. They actually support the argument that a team that has struggled for those many years can break through under the right circumstances and win a cup.

 

[voyageur]

Let's give the boys a break as they were probably a little tired from partying. Many a man has fallen victim to the bright lights and temptations of Salt Lake City. They don't call it Vegas Lite for nothin' you know.

I wonder how much of an adjustment the altitude is too. It's not Denver in terms of Rocky Mountain high, but it's greater than Calgary, or anywhere else in the NHL. I don't know if there is a noticeable impact in oxygen levels playing in Calgary, at that altitude. But it would explain why some guys didn't have the stamina that you are used to seeing from them, and also explain the lack of push with longer shifts, which is unaccustomed for the stars.

Team's first ever trip to Utah, I'm sure there's a lot of factors that went into play there. Ice was referred to by a couple of players.

I think it's cool how Winnipeg and Phoenix never had much in common, other than the Jets moving there, and snowbirds, but with Utah, you have Chevy who got his chops from Butch Goring in Salt Lake City. Acquiring Arniel to win the Turner Cup. Before Arniel joined the Moose. Chynoweth spoke about taking over from Chevy when he moved to the Chicago Wolves, in an assistant GM/coach role that was unique to the market at a time when many an IHL franchise ran without affiliates. And Chynoweth being the guy who drafted Adam Lowry to Swift Current as another 6 degrees of separation organizationally.

I'd like to play against these No Name guys in the playoffs, be a hard fought series. I'd rather play Vancouver or Calgary though, because I don't think they match up as well.

 

[gojetsgo]

the avs team that won the cup was stacked, they were the overwhelming cup favorites going into the season, they had the top end talent + elite depth, they are still a good team but are far from the team that won the cup a few years ago...

 

[snowkiddin]

The Avs are not a great example as they were known as the playoff choke team for many years. They actually support the argument that a team that has struggled for those many years can break through under the right circumstances and win a cup.

Plus they advanced through to the conference finals with a bye, basically. Nashville in Round 1 and St. Louis in Round 2 were both without their starting goalies. Plus I believe Tampa was missing Stamkos for part of that Cup Final. Sometimes all the breaks go your way, no reason that can’t happen to us.

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

Or @Buffdog just stopped arguing with people... so theres half your pages right there

Plus we cant debate stan tonight and theres nothing left to say about perfetti

Lol. True, true and true.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

So only teams who have won the cup in the past will have playoff success? Before the Avs won, they were known as playoff failures who hadn’t made it past the second round in 15+ years.

But recent history suggests they are better at playoff hockey than the Jets. I know the playoffs are months away but I wish we could fast forward the season to settle this debate. I hope the Jets prove those in the 'US' camp wrong

 

[johnnyonthspot]

The Jets played a shity game, one in a row, if we played another 6 or 7 in a row like that then i would be concerned. I have read many opposing coach's rave about the Jets after playing against them this season so i will take last night as a bad night and move on to the next game. People think they can't be critical about the Jets on here, absolutely they can but after 1 bad game saying this is who this team is, that's a little goofy. That's like saying after 1 good game we are winning the Cup , no different to me.

The Jets have played their fair share of shitty games typically with Comerie in net. This is not one bad game in a vacuum. The Nonames used the same blueprint as the Kings, Ducks, Knights and a few other teams have to beat the Jets. Maybe they were looking ahead to the Col game!?