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Are you kidding? I watched 2 NHL games last night that were 10x better than anything we saw in Sochi. The only thing that made that tournament watchable was the right team winning Gold.
Has the US underachieved or just had bad luck?
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Are you kidding? I watched 2 NHL games last night that were 10x better than anything we saw in Sochi. The only thing that made that tournament watchable was the right team winning Gold.
That's fair. However, I just don't care about any NHL team like I do about a Team Canada. I just don't. Maybe the playoffs will snap me out of my funk.
With the Leafs out, it makes it even worse.
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That's fair. However, I just don't care about any NHL team like I do about a Team Canada. I just don't. Maybe the playoffs will snap me out of my funk.
With the Leafs out, it makes it even worse.
There's your problem right there. Find a new team to support.
Just kidding. I couldn't resist the jab.
No problem, buddy.
I use to cheer for the Penguins until the stopped being 70% Canadian.
I am not saying that the game was close because the scoreboard was close. I am saying the score was close in both the US and Finland game as well as the Latvia game, but that two of the games actually were close, while the other wasn't really.
Yes, but I have the FIFA World Cup to look forward to this summer and I still like the Worlds.
It was weird though last night I was watching the Leafs game and Kessel set up Van Riemsdyk and I remembered how excited I was a few months ago whenever that happened. Then I realized that the liklihood is I won't care about how Kessel plays for four more years if ever.
Post gave me my laugh for the day. Me too. When I heard Doughty got hurt last night I was upset for... well... 2 seconds. Then I thought, 4 years is a long time to recover.
I should try and get into the Soccer World Cup. At the risk of asking a stupid question, and that is a risk I take often, is either Canada or Ireland in?
Me too. When I heard Doughty got hurt last night I was upset for... well... 2 seconds. Then I thought, 4 years is a long time to recover.
I should try and get into the Soccer World Cup. At the risk of asking a stupid question, and that is a risk I take often, is either Canada or Ireland in?
Neither, but I can say that if you are into self inflicted pain and torture then following Canada's national soccer team is perfect for you.
This is what happened in what was essentially an elimination game for Canada this year, where they only needed a tie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQbPT_BP5Wo
When I was in Canada in February I even heard on the radio that Canada wasn't selected (yeah selected) for the basketball World Cup because Finland's Angry Birds offered FIBA free marketing expertise.
Neither, but I can say that if you are into self inflicted pain and torture then following Canada's national soccer team is perfect for you.
This is what happened in what was essentially an elimination game for Canada this year, where they only needed a tie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQbPT_BP5Wo
When I was in Canada in February I even heard on the radio that Canada wasn't selected (yeah selected) for the basketball World Cup because Finland's Angry Birds offered FIBA free marketing expertise.
Clicked and saw 8-1 - with Canada being on the short end. Closed.
If there is no Canada and no Ireland, I have no rooting interest. Maybe I will watch anyway. Everyone says it is great. Still wish there was a hockey tournament, before the WJR's, to look forward to.
Clicked and saw 8-1 - with Canada being on the short end. Closed.
If there is no Canada and no Ireland, I have no rooting interest. Maybe I will watch anyway. Everyone says it is great. Still wish there was a hockey tournament, before the WJR's, to look forward to.
Well the US goes, but is a bit like Latvia in hockey. Just getting the participation medal.
No problem, buddy.
What in the name of…
Dude, it's the NHL, not international hockey. Who cares about their nationality?
I love international hockey, so I'm always in a post-sadness type of thing, but the NHL brings me right out of it. I love both events equally, I'd say.
Don Cherry and me. I have an obsession with Canadian hockey.
I'm a nut - as I am sure most of you have figured out.
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When the symbol on the front of the jersey is just a made up corporate marketing slogan, that's about all there is left to care about.
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Sorry, that was just too funny to resist. Favorite players on my team are all Canadian. So there you have it.
I am not ashamed or disappointed as a US Hockey fan. We lose to Canada. That is nothing to be ashamed of. Canada can put 2 teams in the Olympics and win Gold and Silver. That is their depth of talent. The US won in 1996, and finished with Silver in 2010 because of incredible performances by their goalies in games where Canada outplayed them. The US produces excellent players from all over the country these days, including TX, PA, CA, AZ along with the northern hockey hotbeds. I enjoy watching the Olympics and will enjoy watching the World Cup if it comes back. The US will win again at some point, but Canada will always be favorites. I have not problem with that.
Canada is Russias main rival in hockey, not in politics but in hockey it is. I don't now what you are being fed if you think it is otherwise.
I agree with 2 points in your post. One being that the expansion of the pro league and introduction of the junior league will or should help Russia down the road and the other that Russia is just not very good these days, you are right, they aren't, at least at the top tournament at the senior level they are not
The rest is baloney. Were not motivated against Finland? cmon!! they just were not good enough to beat them. This was olyimpic hockey in their own backyard, they wanted to win badly but just did not have the team to get it done. Can't believe you think motivation was the problem. Finland had a game plan and Russia could not beat it when executed, motivation was not the problem. They knew it was a must win game, they were motivated.
Canada catching a break by not playing a not very good Russia team. What break was that? how would that Canadian team have had such a hard time against a team that was not even good enough to play for a medal let alone win one? We saw what difficulties Russia would give us last time out, it was a 7-3 whitewash. I have little doubt of a victorious result this time either when watching both those teams play i n Sochi. But it does not matter anyway, Russia was not good enough to put themselves in a position where we could have seen those two teams play anyway, your point is moot and a tremendous reach.
As far as the impact that the old soviet teams made on us, yes they did make an impact, mostly for the better.However, fans like you would be well advised to remember those days are long gone, admit you need to learn from others and become better so you won't have to forever make up excuses for why your team fails and others succeed.
Those old soviet teams have made a tremendous impact on your fans and your hockey too, unfortunately for your hockey this impact has clearly turned into a liability called living in the long ago past that does not allow you to come to terms with the present. Deny it and prepare for more dissapointment
Russia has been passed by in hockey, the old big red machine is long gone.
It's long past time to let it go, humbly admit change needs to be made and to see what countries like Canada are doing that allow them to be your superior.
I am not trying to rattle your cage here though you may think I am. I am just telling you how it is.
When it comes to russian international hockey today I believe it's very connected to the situation in the country and it's history.
Exactly how I don't know but they have enough individual talent but very little capacity and willingness to play as a team.
It's a pity I had hopes that the russians would challange Team Canada for some epic hockey in Sochi but they were a no show.
Exactly how I don't know but they have enough individual talent but very little capacity and willingness to play as a team.
It's a pity I had hopes that the russians would challange Team Canada for some epic hockey in Sochi but they were a no show.
In 96 Richter played out of his mind and that was the reason for the victory. Canada dominated and could have been up 5 1. It being tied after 2 buoyed the Americans and Canada was in trouble.
Fair point about Finland - even though its a tiny country in terms of population, they do produce more talent and depth than Russia, which is why they usually beat Russia. Finland beats Russia just as often as any other nation does.
You're giving way too much credit to Canada in saying "we saw what little difficulty (the Russians) gave us last time, it was a 7-3 whitewash." The fact is that this year's Canadian team wouldn't even dare dream about a 7-goal outburst. Yes, they did score 6 against Austria, but Austria is awaiting relegation to a level where they will be playing against teams from Luxembourg and Montenegro, not exactly hockey powers!
Canada scored 1 goal in regulation time against both the US and Finland, and only 2 goals against Latvia. Latvia was far more physical than Canada, and I honestly thought Latvia was going to win. The fact is that if Russia scored 3 goals against Canada in Sochi, as they did in 2010, they probably would have sent Canada home empty handed.
The Olympics is usually a best of 1 tournament. You don't often get a chance, as in 2010, to play a team twice. Thinking of the 7-3 score that you reminded me of so graciously, that was the final score of Game 1 of the 1972 Series in Montreal. If the '72 series was just one game, then the Soviets could have claimed unchallenged world supremacy in hockey, and forced Canada to agree to a home-and-home series under IIHF regulations to have a shot at winning it back. The whole hockey world would have been completely different.
Realistically, Canada had an outstanding Olympics, especially defensively, but let's not blow it so far out of proportion in patriotic zeal that it starts to look a little whacky, such as when you said "see what countries like Canada are doing to be your superior." Not much humility there for sure, and it doesn't take into account other facts that rebut your claims of Canadian superiority. At the WJC, one level below the top pro leagues, Russia has beaten Canada in the medal round, when it really counts, the last 4 consecutive years. Brent Sutter, architect of the 2005 and 2006 Canadian WJC teams that are clearly the mainstays of the 2010 and 2014 Olympic teams, a guy who normally shows a lot of swagger, was hanging his head pretty low after steering the team to the 2nd consecutive performance without a medal. So I guess you should gloat and thump your chest now, because you may not be able to next time.
How is calling it like it is some form of not being humble?
I can't very well say Canada isn't up to Russias level now could I? How am I supposed to paint it? they have just won back to back olympics at home and away on big ice and small. That isn't bragging, it's fact.
And when I say that Russia needs to learn from a country that has shown by results that they are better I am simply stating things as they are, not bragging.Not only Canada can they learn from but other countries like
Finland and so on, hell, Canada still can learn all the time from others.If Russia had the results of Canada at the top level I would have to admit they were better and I would do so but that is not how things are and you know it.
At times in the past Russia was better or at least our equal and they had aspects to their game that we knew we would have to learn from and incorporate if we wanted to match them and beat them. That is REAL humility, the kind which Russian fans like you don't seem to recognize and more importantly, incorporate for their betterment.
See, that is your guys problem, you won't admit others are better or have things you can learn from. It's your achilles heel, you just want to get angry that you lost and hang on to the past, as if magically those old soviet teams are going to appear today and show us all because they show that Russian players were and always are superior.
But you go and keep thinking me and others like me are only thumping our chest and bury your head in the sand if you must. It will only lead to you having to say we are thumping our chest more in the future i suspect. That must become tiring and frustrating after so long, I know it would be for me.
It's been over 40 years now since the Summit series, Canada won that series and have just won the Gold in Russia in 2014.
Not much has changed.
It is you guys, not Canada, that needs to have the soul search.
Russia is capable of better, I know they are, but they need to acquire a respectful degree of humility and LEARN from others.
That is NOT bragging.
"The only reason the US was close to Canada in *insert year* is *Insert starting goalie here*, otherwise Canada would have won by 10."
This phrase is probably on every Canadian fans copy and paste list, because it's the same bull every year.
It's pretty funny considering a lot of the Canadian shots were to the perimeter.
Sure we did control a lot of the game, but to say we dominated is pure homerism.
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