Can you have one captain on the road (Jack Johnson) and a different for home games (Brandon Dubinsky)?
Has the time come to name a Captain?
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theD86
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Portzline was asked abou this on his weekly chat he said: "Not sure if they will. The captain may not be on the roster right now."
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Meh. Been said before and folks read into it "Jenner/Murray/Horton will be named captain."
Follow up line omitted: "Of course, the captain may be on the roster right now."
How important a matter the captaincy is depends on the guys in the locker room and on any guys who may hope it's him.
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I think Richards & co. have done it the right way. Get everyone to buy into the system then go from there.
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Which says to me that he has just as little information as any of us, despite being in a better position to get it.
Whether or not that represents the org keeping quiet or Portzline being lazy/incompetent/whatever probably depends on one's individual biases and prejudices.
Which says to me that he has just as little information as any of us, despite being in a better position to get it.
Whether or not that represents the org keeping quiet or Portzline being lazy/incompetent/whatever probably depends on one's individual biases and prejudices.
He throws out the "outside of the org" thing making us think that the front office thinks there just isn't a worthy captain in the room.
I don't think he's lazy or incompetent, but a simple "I haven't heard anything new, but I'll continue to dig." would have done the job.
I don't think the org is going to leak that. When needed they seem to be able to keep a secret and I'm sure they want this announcement with as much drama and fanfare as possible. Fans seem to dig the whole captain thing, but it really doesn't matter to me who the captain is. I'm not their target audience.
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I think that point is obvious. If there was a worthy one in the room, they would be wearing the C already. It's not like the team doesn't have an leaders, they have multiple. The question is about having the "right" leader.
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Hypothetically, lets just say Columbus went out and signed Callahan and instantly named him Captain as well. Would you guys be upset(not at the signing but naming a player before he's played in Columbus uniform as Captain)? Would this create tension in the dressing room? Would it effect potentially re signing players? A while ago, someone said that Dubinsky was upset when the Rangers signed Richards and was instantly given the "A" before he suited up as a Ranger. Not sure if that is true or not. I wonder if he would feel the same way and decide not to sign an extension(if he plans on to) if this were to happen.
I posted this in the main trade rumor board a while ago but I will post it again. I came across a video that was posted on Facebook(tried looking for the video when asked for a source but couldn't find it) but at one point in the video, they asked J.D. on the Captaincy situation. He said he didn't feel any of the players were capable of being a Captain. Said he/Jarmo doesn't want name someone a Captain and then realize that player wasn't the right choice and strip the "C" away from that player as it could cause issues. This was around January so opinions might be different now, especially after seeing Johnson/Dubinsky play in the playoffs.
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Not so clear to me. The team might have multiple "right" leaders right now and not feel the need to decide something that might affect the organic leadership of the team.
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It's nice to see everyone come around to Dubi having the C, I said that early in the year and was crucified and told he was too much of a hot head and took too many penalties to be captain.
The only thing standing in the way of Dubi being the captain, is worrying how Johnson may respond, I think he would be bitter.
The only thing standing in the way of Dubi being the captain, is worrying how Johnson may respond, I think he would be bitter.
Dubi should not be captain. He is too much of a hothead to be captain.
Not "everyone" has come around.
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Dubi should not be captain. He is too much of a hothead to be captain.
Not "everyone" has come around.
Yeah, why would you want someone that is passionate and gets pissed off if they lose being your captain. Much better having someone soft spoken like Nash.
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Dubi should not be captain. He is too much of a hothead to be captain.
Not "everyone" has come around.
Maybe, but as just a fan, I'd follow that guy to the gates of hell. He's a natural leader from all that I see. Every postgame, every interview, I just nod my head and say damn, this guy is a guy I would follow.
I'm sure JMFJ, Foligno and others would do well too, but Dubinsky is just...more... (had to).
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Totally agreed, some guys just have that fire in their eyes. I went to Game 2 in Pitt and we were on the glass for warmups and some guys were goofing around but he was dialed in at 6:30, he was intense and ready to go. Rocket Richard always had the "eyes" too, and the look.
The idea that the guys who have spilled their guts for this team are not good candidates to be captain but that some rube who has never worn the jersey would be a better option really, really, really bothers me.
I agree. Chemistry is a huge part of this team. If the captain is not yet on this team, let's wait until he has played a while in Union Blue before giving the C. It shouldn't be a carrot for free agents, or a contract bonus to get a guy to re sign with us. I think more than any thing, whether you support Dubi, Jack (like me), or someone else, the biggest error would be to give it to someone whom the players think has been "gifted" the captaincy rather than earned it. This team is built on hard work and grit. Whoever gets the letter has to have demonstrated to the team (not us, really, right?) that he has earned it through sweat, blood, and passion. And I agree Dubi has shown that passion, but also Jack.
Keeps coming back to whomever the ROOM believes in, I will, too.
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You're going to dismiss this - I'm absolutely convinced you will find way - because you have pre-decided that you are right and there's nothing that can change your mind. But I will relate this anecdote anyway.
For some of the games I have tickets to, since day 1, are in section 103, right behind the home bench. I have had the chance to watch coach-player and player-player interaction close-up on many occasions. I saw a particular player have the eye of the tiger many times, the desire to take over a game, the desire to put the team on his back and lead them to victory, the desire to be great.
That player was Rick Nash.
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Great example, comparing Dubinsky to someone whose nearly-uncontrollable emotion cost him and his team plenty (including the Stanley Cup in 1955).
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Maybe, but I seriously doubt anyone in the room would've wanted someone other than The Rocket to be captain.
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I think that is a very fair point and I would add one element to the discussion. In addition to having the trust of the locker room, the C must also have the trust of the coach. I don't know who that ONE person is......but I also would say the team was not hurt by having multiple Alternates without a Captain.
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