Has Marc-Andre Fleury become overrated in recent years?

[the valiant effort]

Fleury has a Vezina?!

EDIT: ah, right. A “Vezina”

 

[kerrabria]

Doesn’t sound as good when he was probably closer to borderline top 10 for the first half of the decade.

Yea, he’s a good goalie, but IMO you’re more so talking about Brodeur, Luongo and Roy, who were consistently and undoubtedly top 10 goalies for a LONG TIME. What Fleury did is rare, but he still lags behind those guys when it comes to longevity IMO.

Nobody says Fleury is on Brodeur and Roy's tier.
People say Fleury is on Luongo's tier because those two have similar resumes.

And you're underselling Fleury's legacy. His prime lasted 14 years (2007-21). Those years overlapped with the primes of Brodeur, Lundqvist, Rinne, Price, Quick, Luongo, and Bobrovsky among others who had shorter (but still phenomenol) peaks.

Being a Top 5-10 goaltender during that stretch is more impressive than being a Top 5 goaltender now. An underdiscussed reason for the increase in scoring is how much worse the current generation of goaltenders are compared to the 2010s.

 

[Nucks2001]

Nobody says Fleury is on Brodeur and Roy's tier.
People say Fleury is on Luongo's tier because those two have similar resumes.

And you're underselling Fleury's legacy. His prime lasted 14 years (2007-21). Those years overlapped with the primes of Brodeur, Lundqvist, Rinne, Price, Quick, Luongo, and Bobrovsky among others who had shorter (but still phenomenol) peaks.

Being a Top 5-10 goaltender during that stretch is more impressive than being a Top 5 goaltender now. An underdiscussed reason for the increase in scoring is how much worse the current generation of goaltenders are compared to the 2010s.

To be fair, Luongo has a career .919 SV% (over 1000gp), which is just crazy to think about.
Faced way more shots than Fleury could dream of, and practically fought for every win and shutout on some god awful, unimaginable Panthers Teams.

The early Canucks teams were not much better either, he was easily their most valuable player. Luongo only had a brief period (‘09-13), where he legitimately had a good team in front of him and as much as people want to trash on Luongo’s chokes during those years, his numbers are lightyears better than Fleury’s (10-14) and he has a Gold medal to boot for in that same time period (he ACTUALLY contributed to that 2010 medal).

I mean I don't get how you can put Fleury next to Luongo when it's seen as general conseus by most people that Luongo was a top 5 goalie from 2004-2011. Fleury never had that sort of a stretch and Luongo matches him in longevitiy. Stanley Cups for Fleury sure, but let's not underrate Luongo now.

 

[Channelcat]

In all years

 

[CokenoPepsi]

And those are designed to get attention by any means necessary, the easiest way to do that is outrage clicks.

Do you really think those guys believe everything they say and write?

Oh no of course not, but just the fact that it is a discussion at all...

 

[The Expert]

Darcy Kuemper says hi. Maybe Adin Hill too.

For someone to be overrated they need to be rated highly by a lot of people.

 

[SomeDude]

Oh no of course not, but just the fact that it is a discussion at all...

Pittsburgh media are saying Bryan Rust should be on USA for the Olympics. It's dumb stuff to try to get attention, it's not real life. Nobody actually thinks that Fleury is a Rushmore goalie.

 

[Offtheboard412]

Only people who overrate Fleury are the casual yinzer fans who don't really follow hockey that closely. I used to have to listen to my old boss vehemently argue that we should have kept Fleury and traded Malkin lol.