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Prospect Info: Hartford Wolf Pack (AHL)/Maine Mariners (ECHL) Thread: Part XII

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Third period wasn’t all that interesting. Bruins scored late in the second on a high slot tip on the PP. really nice goal thru traffic Shesterkin had zero chance on
But the third period just melted away. The structure of this team can do that. Very polished group well coached for sure. And when Shesterkin is back there forget it.

great win against a team with some solid pieces.

studnicka can play. Big strong fast kid. If we’re talking to the bruins on Kreider he’s got to be at the top of the list. But he’s only 20 has to be one of if not there top prospect right now. Frederic is probably a more likely scenario with not nearly the upside.
 
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Kovalev27 said:
Third period wasn’t all that interesting. Bruins scored late in the second on a high slot tip on the PP. really nice goal thru traffic Shesterkin had zero chance on
But the third period just melted away. The structure of this team can do that. Very polished group well coached for sure. And when Shesterkin is back there forget it.

great win against a team with some solid pieces.

studnicka can play. Big strong fast kid. If we’re talking to the bruins on Kreider he’s got to be at the top of the list. But he’s only 20 has to be one of if not there top prospect right now. Frederic is probably a more likely scenario with not nearly the upside.
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I'm okay with Frederic too tbh.

Another guy who can play a bit and can bash skulls would be welcome.
 
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Trent Frederic was interesting a couple years ago, but he's a hard pass from me now. He isn't even a good AHL scorer. I like his game fine, and wouldn't be upset if we acquired him, but I wouldn't want him to be a target in moving any of our bigger names.
 
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Trent Frederic was interesting a couple years ago, but he's a hard pass from me now. He isn't even a good AHL scorer. I like his game fine, and wouldn't be upset if we acquired him, but I wouldn't want him to be a target in moving any of our bigger names.
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Eh, as a secondary piece I’d be agreeable to him. I don’t think he’s that dissimilar to a guy like Lindgren when he was acquired. He’s a bottom-6 power forward more than likely.
 
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Eh, as a secondary piece I’d be agreeable to him. I don’t think he’s that dissimilar to a guy like Lindgren when he was acquired. He’s a bottom-6 power forward more than likely.
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Yeah absolutely, as a secondary piece, sure. Not any type of primary target. He's a decent prospect but not anything worth chasing.
 
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Frederic is probably fine if you’re getting Boston’s 1st.
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I would still want more. Boston's pick, as it stands, would be 30th; not much difference between that pick and, say, the 40th pick. For a pick in that range I'd want more added than Frederic, who I'm not even convinced is a regular NHLer. I'd rather find someone with more upside but even less certainty. If I'm getting a B- prospect, give me the guy with upside.

Although, as I said in a different thread, it's all about the market. Who knows what Kreider will be worth.
 
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Let me guess: Bern's working on them and they're getting a little complicated.
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@bernmeister

We are both totally on the same page. A condition for usage of the rink will stipulate which national anthem that can be used before games.

The idea is to build the rink in Poughkeepsie and then float it down the Hudson and then just slide it onto the piers. We will pitch the idea to all big TV outlets and will certainly find someone that is willing to pay a big amount to do a documentary of the project.
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Tentatively we will create a sand bed in the river and cast the base plate on it. We will put oil barrels in the sand bed, so that when the sand is flushed away the base plate will be able to float down the river. If the permits drag on we can just dock it to one of the piers. If we make the baseplate 45 meters x 90 meters and 10 cm thick, the weight of it will be 405 m3 concrete which weights 972 tons (kg). For that we will need 6,113 oil barrels to have it float (we will make it an even 7k, no need to gamble).

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Our budget that must be financed is about 100k to make the sand bed, 50k to make a temporary sand road out to the sand bed that the cement trucks can drive on, 50k to buy a load of used empty oilbarrels from Indonesia and have them shipped to Poughkeepsie, 200k for the base plate including the piping for the cooling and the reinforcing bars, and 200k for the wood to build the stands, 30k for painting the lines and AHL team logo on the base plate, then probably 100k in total for the floating of the rink down to the piers, including a pilot etc.

We count to get at least 500k for the documentary rights from like Discovery, and the remaining 130k have to come from our own pockets (doable).

Can probably be done in about 6 months but opening night fall 2020 is unrealistic. Just to paint the oil barrels so that they do not rust will take a lot of time, but we plan to do it as a friends and family thing. Anyone know if there is salt in the water of the Hudson?

We do not plan to take contact with Dolan before the rink is in place. When its fait-accompli Bern will just call him up and ask "Jimmy Boy, what do you say? Can we get the R-word? (relocation)"

We will not have a big screen in the arena, but all spectators will get a tablet when they enter that they can watch highlights on and order food and beverages. With room for 6,000 people standing we believe someone will sponsor us the tablets. Will be awesome. A real money machine. High-tech.

Questions?
 
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@bernmeister

We are both totally on the same page. A condition for usage of the rink will stipulate which national anthem that can be used before games.

The idea is to build the rink in Poughkeepsie and then float it down the Hudson and then just slide it onto the piers. We will pitch the idea to all big TV outlets and will certainly find someone that is willing to pay a big amount to do a documentary of the project.
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Tentatively we will create a sand bed in the river and cast the base plate on it. We will put oil barrels in the sand bed, so that when the sand is flushed away the base plate will be able to float down the river. If the permits drag on we can just dock it to one of the piers. If we make the baseplate 45 meters x 90 meters and 10 cm thick, the weight of it will be 405 m3 concrete which weights 972 tons (kg). For that we will need 6,113 oil barrels to have it float (we will make it an even 7k, no need to gamble).

View attachment 289617

Our budget that must be financed is about 100k to make the sand bed, 50k to make a temporary sand road out to the sand bed that the cement trucks can drive on, 50k to buy a load of used empty oilbarrels from Indonesia and have them shipped to Poughkeepsie, 200k for the base plate including the piping for the cooling and the reinforcing bars, and 200k for the wood to build the stands, 30k for painting the lines and AHL team logo on the base plate, then probably 100k in total for the floating of the rink down to the piers, including a pilot etc.

We count to get at least 500k for the documentary rights from like Discovery, and the remaining 130k have to come from our own pockets (doable).

Can probably be done in about 6 months but opening night fall 2020 is unrealistic. Just to paint the oil barrels so that they do not rust will take a lot of time, but we plan to do it as a friends and family thing. Anyone know if there is salt in the water of the Hudson?

We do not plan to take contact with Dolan before the rink is in place. When its fait-accompli Bern will just call him up and ask "Jimmy Boy, what do you say? Can we get the R-word? (relocation)"

We will not have a big screen in the arena, but all spectators will get a tablet when they enter that they can watch highlights on and order food and beverages. With room for 6,000 people standing we believe someone will sponsor us the tablets. Will be awesome. A real money machine. High-tech.

Questions?
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So, I think we need to discuss Kreider Nieves some more. ; )
 
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Ola said:
@bernmeister

We are both totally on the same page. A condition for usage of the rink will stipulate which national anthem that can be used before games.

The idea is to build the rink in Poughkeepsie and then float it down the Hudson and then just slide it onto the piers. We will pitch the idea to all big TV outlets and will certainly find someone that is willing to pay a big amount to do a documentary of the project.
View attachment 289613

Tentatively we will create a sand bed in the river and cast the base plate on it. We will put oil barrels in the sand bed, so that when the sand is flushed away the base plate will be able to float down the river. If the permits drag on we can just dock it to one of the piers. If we make the baseplate 45 meters x 90 meters and 10 cm thick, the weight of it will be 405 m3 concrete which weights 972 tons (kg). For that we will need 6,113 oil barrels to have it float (we will make it an even 7k, no need to gamble).

View attachment 289617

Our budget that must be financed is about 100k to make the sand bed, 50k to make a temporary sand road out to the sand bed that the cement trucks can drive on, 50k to buy a load of used empty oilbarrels from Indonesia and have them shipped to Poughkeepsie, 200k for the base plate including the piping for the cooling and the reinforcing bars, and 200k for the wood to build the stands, 30k for painting the lines and AHL team logo on the base plate, then probably 100k in total for the floating of the rink down to the piers, including a pilot etc.

We count to get at least 500k for the documentary rights from like Discovery, and the remaining 130k have to come from our own pockets (doable).

Can probably be done in about 6 months but opening night fall 2020 is unrealistic. Just to paint the oil barrels so that they do not rust will take a lot of time, but we plan to do it as a friends and family thing. Anyone know if there is salt in the water of the Hudson?

We do not plan to take contact with Dolan before the rink is in place. When its fait-accompli Bern will just call him up and ask "Jimmy Boy, what do you say? Can we get the R-word? (relocation)"

We will not have a big screen in the arena, but all spectators will get a tablet when they enter that they can watch highlights on and order food and beverages. With room for 6,000 people standing we believe someone will sponsor us the tablets. Will be awesome. A real money machine. High-tech.

Questions?
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@Ola has been doing all the heavy lifting/carrying the ball (puck) on this one for us.

People call me a national treasure, sometimes methinks tongue in cheek. But @Ola has me beat, handily. He is that and more both here and in Sweden, if not also beyond.

Love ya,
@Ola

best,
bern
 
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