Hannan replaces Blake on Team Canada...Good? or Bad?

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jtuzzi21 said:
Scott Hannan was added for his ability to shut down top opposing forwards.
Just ask Peter Forsberg.

All the clutching grabbing and holding really got Forsberg ticked off, and Hannan got away with it.

Not a fan of either team or player, just saying what I saw.
 

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Hannan is a waste with no skill whatsoever. He's completely clutch and grabe guy which will get team canada in trouble. If Team canada wanted clutch and grabe defense why didn't they take anyone on calgary.

This is a joke. Fire Lowe and Gretzky.

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You are the reason Toronto fans get a bad name. He's a hit and pin kind of guy who will not hurt you. He's got some ability although it can be said you can argue for many guys in this spot. I cannot make a super strong case against him. He'll be a reserve D man who can fill in if need be.
 

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Apparently, I'm not the only guy that thinks hannan is clutch and grab.

6 goals in 82 games, if he's not scoring what do you think he's doing? he's probably grabbing someone cause he's too slow to skate with them.

Are you telling me that Canada's best can only offer a guy that has a career high in 6 goals? lol

Lets get ready to watch a calgary like game, where you got no talent, you got skill so you gotta push, grab, trip your opponents.

And you're the reason, I would never go to Nova Scotia.
 

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Apparently, I'm not the only guy that thinks hannan is clutch and grab.

6 goals in 82 games, if he's not scoring what do you think he's doing? he's probably grabbing someone cause he's too slow to skate with them.

Are you telling me that Canada's best can only offer a guy that has a career high in 6 goals? lol

Lets get ready to watch a calgary like game, where you got no talent, you got skill so you gotta push, grab, trip your opponents.

And you're the reason, I would never go to Nova Scotia.

Just out of curiosity how many Sharks games have you watched? Not just you, but the rest of you making comments as if you have watched Hannan play 100's of games.

At the begining of last season there was an article in The Hockey News that stated Hannan and Aucoin are the most underated defensman in the league.

Hannan does not play clutch and grab. All of you are making that assumption based on the pictures from the Sharks/Av's series. Forsberg may be one of the greatest hockey players ever but he tries ever trick (cheat) in the book and then points the finger at the opponant like they were the one who started the crap. Hannan is a very smart player and he did not let Forsberg get away with it. This frustrated Forsberg (ie. all the stupid penalties he took) any clutching and grabbing you saw Hannan do was in response to Forsbergs clutching and grabbing.

We Sharks fans know that the rest of the hockey world pays little or no attention to us. As good as our team was this last season it was frustrating to get so little press.....but we are used to it. Most of our games start at either 9:30 or 10:30pm in most areas of North America so it is hard for me to imagine that many of you have seen all that many Sharks games. What few games you have seen, how much attention did you focus on Hannan? Not much I imagine, why would you? He has been underated the last few years and has gotten better and better with every game he plays. His great play did not begin in this years playoffs, if you want to pinpoint when his game started to advance you have to go back to the 2002 playoffs where he was also extremly effective against Forsberg in only his second full season in the NHL.

You can attack my comments all you want. But do you really have that much more hockey knowledge than the gentleman who picked Hannan. If so maybe you should contact team Cananda and have Gretzky removed for his lack of knowledge.
 

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Just out of curiosity how many Sharks games have you watched? Not just you, but the rest of you making comments as if you have watched Hannan play 100's of games.

At the begining of last season there was an article in The Hockey News that stated Hannan and Aucoin are the most underated defensman in the league.

Hannan does not play clutch and grab. All of you are making that assumption based on the pictures from the Sharks/Av's series. Forsberg may be one of the greatest hockey players ever but he tries ever trick (cheat) in the book and then points the finger at the opponant like they were the one who started the crap. Hannan is a very smart player and he did not let Forsberg get away with it. This frustrated Forsberg (ie. all the stupid penalties he took) any clutching and grabbing you saw Hannan do was in response to Forsbergs clutching and grabbing.

We Sharks fans know that the rest of the hockey world pays little or no attention to us. As good as our team was this last season it was frustrating to get so little press.....but we are used to it. Most of our games start at either 9:30 or 10:30pm in most areas of North America so it is hard for me to imagine that many of you have seen all that many Sharks games. What few games you have seen, how much attention did you focus on Hannan? Not much I imagine, why would you? He has been underated the last few years and has gotten better and better with every game he plays. His great play did not begin in this years playoffs, if you want to pinpoint when his game started to advance you have to go back to the 2002 playoffs where he was also extremly effective against Forsberg in only his second full season in the NHL.

You can attack my comments all you want. But do you really have that much more hockey knowledge than the gentleman who picked Hannan. If so maybe you should contact team Cananda and have Gretzky removed for his lack of knowledge.
Well said, I completly agree with you.
The fact is Hannan earned and deserves his spot on the team. I'm a huge Boynton fan but I can admit that Hannan deserved to be on the team.
 

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Hart_House_Ca said:
Hannan is a waste with no skill whatsoever. He's completely clutch and grabe guy which will get team canada in trouble. If Team canada wanted clutch and grabe defense why didn't they take anyone on calgary.

This is a joke. Fire Lowe and Gretzky.

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Hart_House_Ca said:
you're and ASS Clown. :lol:
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Hart_House_Ca said:
6 goals in 82 games, if he's not scoring what do you think he's doing? he's probably grabbing someone cause he's too slow to skate with them.

Are you telling me that Canada's best can only offer a guy that has a career high in 6 goals? lol

Do you think Adam Foote belonged on the 2002 Olympic Team?
 

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You're from vancouver what do you know? Its not like anyone from Vancouver knows anything about hockey.

If i'm a clown.. you're and ASS Clown. :lol:
You are a complete idiot and it doesn't matter where you are from. You obviously know nothing about hockey and are one of the stupidest posters i've ever seen on here.
Like someone else said it's because of morons like you that T.O. fans have a bad rep. Your last sentence didn't even make sense.
You really think you know more then Gretzky?
What have you ever accomplished that would make you think that you pathetic loser. You must be inbred. :banghead:
 

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Bottom line, for the Sharks, Hannan gets the job done.

He's an excellent 'shut-down' defenseman, and while he isn't someone who will tear up the offensive end, he is anything but a liability based on his defensive play.

I would've prefered Bouwie get the spot, just give him a glimpse of the future, but with Hannan there, I will not be disappointed in the selection.
 

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In the end - it doesn't really matter much. The guy is VERY unlikely to see a single minute of ice time.
Pronger, Foote, and Neidermayer are going to be teh big three. Wade Redden will, IMO, step up as the other member of the top four. Jovo and Brewer both have greatly superior skill sets and experience to the other alternatives. IMO the pairings may look like:
Pronger-Neidermayer
Foote-Brewer
Redden-Jovonovski

Pronger will be our number one guy playing all situations. Foote will be out there for all important defensive situations. Neidermayer will be out there on PPs and offensive situations because he's the best skater. Then it's just up to the other three to determine who plays the best to see where they fit in. I have those pairings that way because Brewer is the "young pup" of the group so I put him with the best guy defensively, and I put the steadiest guy (Redden) with the most unsteady(Jovo).
 

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In the end - it doesn't really matter much. The guy is VERY unlikely to see a single minute of ice time.
Pronger, Foote, and Neidermayer are going to be teh big three. Wade Redden will, IMO, step up as the other member of the top four. Jovo and Brewer both have greatly superior skill sets and experience to the other alternatives. IMO the pairings may look like:
Pronger-Neidermayer
Foote-Brewer
Redden-Jovonovski

Pronger will be our number one guy playing all situations. Foote will be out there for all important defensive situations. Neidermayer will be out there on PPs and offensive situations because he's the best skater. Then it's just up to the other three to determine who plays the best to see where they fit in. I have those pairings that way because Brewer is the "young pup" of the group so I put him with the best guy defensively, and I put the steadiest guy (Redden) with the most unsteady(Jovo).

Since you state that as fact I assume you heard that directly from Gretzky or another memeber of team Canada's management?
 

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jpsharkfan said:
Since you state that as fact I assume you heard that directly from Gretzky or another memeber of team Canada's management?


I like Hannan as much as the next guy. In fact, he is one of my favorite young players in the league. But, thome_26's take is reasonable and (as is typical of that poster) informed. And, btw, he did say "IMO." He did not claim to have heard directly from Gretzky.
 

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You're from vancouver what do you know? Its not like anyone from Vancouver knows anything about hockey.

If i'm a clown.. you're and ASS Clown. :lol:
For the love of God man, do your self a favour and stop typing.
Even as a fellow Leafs fan I can be disgusted by your clear bias towards the city of Toronto and specifically the Leafs.

While I may have wanted to see McCabe get the spot Hannan is no pushover. He is an extremely reliable defenseman who is top notch at positioning and can be a tough cookie in all areas. To say scoring only six goals means he's a bad player is one of the most sorely lacking argument's I have ever heard. John Madden, one of the premier defensive forwards in the game scored only twelve goals this year at centre. Derian Hatcher was runner up for a Norris trophy last year with only 8 goals and Chris chelios was in the same position two years ago with a measley 6.

Stop being so bitter and biased and maybe, just maybe someone will give a bit of credibility to what you say.
 

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Hart_House_Ca said:
Apparently, I'm not the only guy that thinks hannan is clutch and grab.

6 goals in 82 games, if he's not scoring what do you think he's doing? he's probably grabbing someone cause he's too slow to skate with them.

Are you telling me that Canada's best can only offer a guy that has a career high in 6 goals? lol

Lets get ready to watch a calgary like game, where you got no talent, you got skill so you gotta push, grab, trip your opponents.

And you're the reason, I would never go to Nova Scotia.
You must be posting this to give yourself a few chuckles and admittedly i was fooled into believing you were being serious.. You are like a few others i've seen just trying to stir ****. Well done. Keep on wasting everyone's time.
 

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I would have preferred Adrian Aucoin myself. Easily the most underrated defenceman in the game today. Carried the Islanders on his back last year when everyone else was planning mutiny. Would have an excellent replacement for Blake. Maybe not as physical or as offensively dangerous, but can eat up big minutes while providing a steadying influence on the blue line and in the locker room. One of the best shots in the game, too.

However, Hannan is still an excellent choice. Ask Tkachuk, Forsberg and DeMitra about Hannan's defensive abilities. Will probably be the No. 8 defenceman for Canada, but he'd be a top six defenceman for any other country.

McCabe would have brought a lot of similar qualities as Blake, but he's very inconsistent. He's turnover prone, and he's a bit of a nut. That's what kept him off the team.

Bouwmeester isn't ready for this type of tournament, yet. He'll be there in 2006 and 2010 for the Olys. Souray has had one good year. He doesn't deserve consideration. Morris is coming off a terrible year and his wrist is still wonky. Boynton was an all-star last year, but it's not his time...yet. Same goes for the steady Chris Phillips.

Boucher? Jackman? Jason Smith? Pull your biased heads out of your asses. We're not picking the defence corps for Slovakia.

To Hart_House_Ca, I think the Toronto pollution and traffic are getting to you. I'd like to see the team you'd put together. Actually, I take that back. I don't want to see the team you'd put together. Olympic Golds for teams assembled by Wayne Gretzky: 1. (Instrumental in back-to-back world titles, too). Olympic golds for Hart_House: 0.
 

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Hart_House_Ca said:
Apparently, I'm not the only guy that thinks hannan is clutch and grab.

6 goals in 82 games, if he's not scoring what do you think he's doing? he's probably grabbing someone cause he's too slow to skate with them.

Are you telling me that Canada's best can only offer a guy that has a career high in 6 goals? lol

Lets get ready to watch a calgary like game, where you got no talent, you got skill so you gotta push, grab, trip your opponents.

Well Adam Foote only averages around 6 goals a season. So he must be clutch and grab and doesn't deserve a spot on the team. In fact, why not have Andy Delmore on the team, he scores lots of goals. We'll just overlook the fact that he can't play defense and that we need him because the likes of Scott Niedermayer, Wade Redden, Ed Jovanovski, Eric Brewer and Chris Pronger are clearly not capable of contributing to the offensive game.

And I'd be happy to watch a Calgary like game. They were super exciting. High fore-checking, lots of speed, crashing the net, clearing the front of the net, big hitting. It's apparent you haven't seen Scott Hannan play if you think all he can do is clutch and grab.

Hart_House_Ca said:
If i'm a clown.. you're and ASS Clown.

:lol :lol :lol
 

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Hart_House_Ca said:
Apparently, I'm not the only guy that thinks hannan is clutch and grab.

6 goals in 82 games, if he's not scoring what do you think he's doing? he's probably grabbing someone cause he's too slow to skate with them.

Are you telling me that Canada's best can only offer a guy that has a career high in 6 goals? lol

Lets get ready to watch a calgary like game, where you got no talent, you got skill so you gotta push, grab, trip your opponents.

And you're the reason, I would never go to Nova Scotia.


:lol :lol You can't be serious?


Hannan can skate quite well, but he is a SHUT-DOWN DEFENSEMAN. What don't you understand about that statement? In other words you could say he is a stay at home defenseman, or a defenseman who will play major minutes on the PK because of his ability to shut down top offensive threats.

IF your comments are coming from the COlorado series, if you see replays you would notice Forsberg would (sometimes) literally grab defenders and hold on to them when the ref would turn his head. Forsberg was the clutch and grab player, not Hannan. Hannan pretty much was forced to clutch onto Forsberg or risk a turnover because of Peter's illegal play. :teach:


btw, I'm not trying to bash Peter. He is a offensive talent, but he (just like every other offensive player in the league) will do as much as he can get away with.
 

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Hart_House_Ca said:
You're from vancouver what do you know? Its not like anyone from Vancouver knows anything about hockey.

If i'm a clown.. you're and ASS Clown. :lol:

please quit embarassing us.



back to the topic
As some one else pointed out, what about Barret Jackman as a 7th D and just bumping someone else up?
 
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